I probably wouldn't buy a new Sunn 200s for $3500.
OTOH, I'm not sure I would sell my old 200s for that much, either.
OTOH, I'm not sure I would sell my old 200s for that much, either.
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Fender 135 and Studio Bass are also ultra-linear designs (out of production, but fairly available used)For max clean headroom with a Mk3, max out the master and set your volume with the Gain control. If you still can't get enough headroom, dial back the Bass control.
A Healthy SVT should be notably louder.
What magical quality do you attribute to ultra-linear?
FYI current production Ashdown CTM 100, CTM 200, CTM 300 run ultra-linear.
Out of production:
- Ashdown BTA and Small Block 427
- Sound City B150 and L150
- Sunn 1200S, 2000s, etc
is that where they all are?In my neck of the woods (PNW) a 60s Sunn 200s in decent stock working condition (usually except for the 3 prong plug and/or a few caps) goes for around $1000 cad or $700 usd.
Or a pair of Bag End S15(whatever).There really is going to only so much clean headroom with a 60 watt amp at rock band volume.
I’m saying you would have to see for yourself if it would be enough for you.
I’d want a nice sensitive 215 “, like the OG 200s can…
And the Ashdown Heads are -For max clean headroom with a Mk3, max out the master and set your volume with the Gain control. If you still can't get enough headroom, dial back the Bass control.
A Healthy SVT should be notably louder.
What magical quality do you attribute to ultra-linear?
FYI current production Ashdown CTM 100, CTM 200, CTM 300 run ultra-linear.
Out of production:
- Ashdown BTA and Small Block 427
- Sound City B150 and L150
- Sunn 1200S, 2000s, etc
Sweetwater has the CTM-300 (at this moment) for $2900.And the Ashdown Heads are -
CTM-100 / 100W / $2000
CTM-200 / 200W / $2800
CTM-300 / 300W / $3300
The original Sunn and Fender/Sunn factories were near Portland OR, so maybe there was a stash of nos that found its way to the semi-local market when it closed in 2002, since I've seen plenty of various 60s/70s/80s Sunn gear in really good condition for sale in the PNW. Pure speculation, though.is that where they all are?
for as much as we saw sunn amps in all the old rock photos, we never see any actual vintage sunns around here (mid-atlantic coast). the joke is that they all ended up in that warehouse along with the ark of the covenant
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That was around 1990, I sold it a decade later for $100. His practice room now sports a blackface Bassman in white tolex.I paid $1100 for mine in 2015 (previously loved of course). Cosmetically it was pretty much mint, but it needed output tubes and I had to swap out a resistor in the bias supply to get the tubes in the proper range. I already had the tubes and did the work myself. For someone to pay a tech, let's call sunk cost for the amp about $1650. Still a lot of money IMHOSweetwater has the CTM-300 (at this moment) for $2900.
$1650 in 2015 dollars = $2326.50 today.I paid $1100 for mine in 2015 (previously loved of course). Cosmetically it was pretty much mint, but it needed output tubes and I had to swap out a resistor in the bias supply to get the tubes in the proper range. I already had the tubes and did the work myself. For someone to pay a tech, let's call sunk cost for the amp about $1650. Still a lot of money IMHO.
I would step up to the 500 you get a gain knob as well and better control of your output tone…beta mini https://sunnamps.com/betamini/
for a 200W portable bass amp, I would recommend the Traynor SB200H ( bulletproof!)
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… and the Super Twin, the much « hated » guitar amp but it’s a good thing for bass players!Fender 135 and Studio Bass are also ultra-linear designs (out of production, but fairly available used)
I did not know that guitar players hated the Super Twin. Of course, 180w guitar amp is kind of silly overkill though.… and the Super Twin, the much « hated » guitar amp but it’s a good thing for bass players!
If I am not mistaken, I saw a lot of things on the internet (everything on the internet is the truth, rightI did not know that guitar players hated the Super Twin. Of course, 180w guitar amp is kind of silly overkill though.![]()
A lot of us don't love the rotary EQ section all that much for guitar either, and the clean with the factory drivers is nowhere near as sweet as a good Twin Reverb either, IMO. But with the right cab it does make a nice 160-180 watt bass amp for many people's taste, for sure.If I am not mistaken, I saw a lot of things on the internet (everything on the internet is the truth, right) when I bought mine and needed much infos as possible.
- the weight (it’s kind of heavy and out of balance because of the transformers);
- it’s brutally loud and clean for geetar;
- the distortion crude circuit is not really tasty for geetar.
I think it's a pretty honest 180w amp. I had the Studio Bass version for several years and it definitely delivered the goods.A lot of us don't love the rotary EQ section all that much for guitar either, and the clean with the factory drivers is nowhere near as sweet as a good Twin Reverb either, IMO. But with the right cab it does make a nice 160-180 watt bass amp for many people's taste, for sure.