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New Traynor Dyna Bass combos

#82
So my old Traynor Bloc40B has just recently bitten the biscuit. I think it is the speaker, but the L&M service dudes at the local shop did not go so far as to diagnose it as they are knew they are unable to get parts for it. My dad bought this for me back in like 1985 or 86, and he was so proud to buy it for me, I really hate to part with it.

I have a gigging rig, and this wasn't it - but I am looking for a replacement, as it has been darned handy having a small (acually, I mean tiny!) amp with decent sound and power for just practicing either by myself, or with acoustic guitar players. I have to say, this little amp has been incredible - I played in two metal bands with loud drummers (believe it!) in high school, two years of Jazz studies at university, and several months in a gigging country band (with PA support), all with this little amp. It was only recently that I was practicing with our two guitar players, who were both just using acoustics, that it went. I was using a Jazz bass with DiMarzio Model J's, which I find to be pretty hot, so maybe that's what did it in. I am guessing the problem is the speaker - low frequencies, like an open E, break up, but anything on the a string or higher seem to be fine (ish).

I am considering the DB50... I'd checked it out a while ago, and it seemed to sound ok, and I like all the features, and the price, but am really concerned about the fact that it is manufactured in China.

Does anyone have any comments with respect to the reliability or quality of these little Chinese-made amps? I understand that they were designed in Canada, and are serviced in Canada, and that's all great, but if I spend six months out of the two year warranty in the shop, it's not much fun, is it, or if it fails on day 731 of ownership.

I'd also be interested in repairing the Bloc40B, and would be interested in hearing comments from the Yorkville employees here with respect to parts availability. Should I tell the L&M guys to please diagnose the problem and the deal with Yorkville for parts? If it's a speaker, it should be an easy fix, if one could find a replacement...


Sorry for the novel, but let me know what you think.
 
#83
BillMason said:
So my old Traynor Bloc40B has just recently bitten the biscuit. I think it is the speaker, but the L&M service dudes at the local shop did not go so far as to diagnose it as they are knew they are unable to get parts for it. My dad bought this for me back in like 1985 or 86, and he was so proud to buy it for me, I really hate to part with it.

I have a gigging rig, and this wasn't it - but I am looking for a replacement, as it has been darned handy having a small (acually, I mean tiny!) amp with decent sound and power for just practicing either by myself, or with acoustic guitar players. I have to say, this little amp has been incredible - I played in two metal bands with loud drummers (believe it!) in high school, two years of Jazz studies at university, and several months in a gigging country band (with PA support), all with this little amp. It was only recently that I was practicing with our two guitar players, who were both just using acoustics, that it went. I was using a Jazz bass with DiMarzio Model J's, which I find to be pretty hot, so maybe that's what did it in. I am guessing the problem is the speaker - low frequencies, like an open E, break up, but anything on the a string or higher seem to be fine (ish).

I am considering the DB50... I'd checked it out a while ago, and it seemed to sound ok, and I like all the features, and the price, but am really concerned about the fact that it is manufactured in China.

Does anyone have any comments with respect to the reliability or quality of these little Chinese-made amps? I understand that they were designed in Canada, and are serviced in Canada, and that's all great, but if I spend six months out of the two year warranty in the shop, it's not much fun, is it, or if it fails on day 731 of ownership.

I'd also be interested in repairing the Bloc40B, and would be interested in hearing comments from the Yorkville employees here with respect to parts availability. Should I tell the L&M guys to please diagnose the problem and the deal with Yorkville for parts? If it's a speaker, it should be an easy fix, if one could find a replacement...


Sorry for the novel, but let me know what you think.
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I'd see if you can confirm that it's just the speaker, and order the same speaker that's being currently used in the DB50 through LM. If you pull the old speaker and put are able to get decent sound in another cabinet from it, then it's a different problem. Possibly repairable, but who knows? Ask for an estimate before any work is done so you can decide if the repair is worth it to you or not.

Best of luck, let us know what you end up doing!



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#84
BillMason said:
So my old Traynor Bloc40B has just recently bitten the biscuit. I think it is the speaker, but the L&M service dudes at the local shop did not go so far as to diagnose it as they are knew they are unable to get parts for it. My dad bought this for me back in like 1985 or 86, and he was so proud to buy it for me, I really hate to part with it.

I have a gigging rig, and this wasn't it - but I am looking for a replacement, as it has been darned handy having a small (acually, I mean tiny!) amp with decent sound and power for just practicing either by myself, or with acoustic guitar players. I have to say, this little amp has been incredible - I played in two metal bands with loud drummers (believe it!) in high school, two years of Jazz studies at university, and several months in a gigging country band (with PA support), all with this little amp. It was only recently that I was practicing with our two guitar players, who were both just using acoustics, that it went. I was using a Jazz bass with DiMarzio Model J's, which I find to be pretty hot, so maybe that's what did it in. I am guessing the problem is the speaker - low frequencies, like an open E, break up, but anything on the a string or higher seem to be fine (ish).

I am considering the DB50... I'd checked it out a while ago, and it seemed to sound ok, and I like all the features, and the price, but am really concerned about the fact that it is manufactured in China.

Does anyone have any comments with respect to the reliability or quality of these little Chinese-made amps? I understand that they were designed in Canada, and are serviced in Canada, and that's all great, but if I spend six months out of the two year warranty in the shop, it's not much fun, is it, or if it fails on day 731 of ownership.

I'd also be interested in repairing the Bloc40B, and would be interested in hearing comments from the Yorkville employees here with respect to parts availability. Should I tell the L&M guys to please diagnose the problem and the deal with Yorkville for parts? If it's a speaker, it should be an easy fix, if one could find a replacement...


Sorry for the novel, but let me know what you think.
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I've owned the Yorkville XM50C combo for a while now and it sounds great for a 50 watt 1x10" amp and is solid as a rock. It hasn't given me a bit of trouble. You might still be able to find one new somewhere. It's heavier than the new Yraynor model but only 30 lbs.

If 50 watts into one 10" is enough for you then the new one or the old Yorkie should be great. I can't vouch for the reliability of the Chinese stuff. It hasn't been out all that long yet. Perhaps Rev Groove knows what sort of returns they've been getting.

One other amp to consider is the new lighter weight Traynor 350 watt combo with a Neo 12. They advertise it's only 48 lbs. I saw one last weekend but didn't have time to try it. Nice looking little amp and it seems to have the same eq and features as the old Yorkville XM200 T which I used to own and the new Dynabass 200. It could be a real winner. But definitely try any of these out before you buy.

There will be a difference in sound between your old Traynor and the new 50 watt combos even though the power is about the same. The big difference is the speaker. There's only so much you can get out of a single 10". My little Yorkville will play quite loud for such a little thing and has a fair bit of bottom end but won't compete with a 15" loaded amp of the same power in terms of how big a sound you'll get. But it does pretty good for what it is. Almost as loud as my GK MB 150S combo with a single 12" speaker. It won't match the warm tone of the GK but it does good and costs less than half as much. nd it has a decent XLR direct out so you can go into a PA if available.
 
#85
Actually, my Bloc 40B is just a 10" speaker, 40 watts. On the way home from work today I actually rented one of the DB50s, I have it for a month for $15! :) I tried it out, and it actually sounds remarkably similar to my old Bloc 40B.

I picked my 40B up from the repair today too - they didn't actually repair it, as they said parts are no longer available, but I tried it out at home alongside the DB50, and it is remarkable, the similarity.

The break up I'd been hearing is still there, it kinda sounds like it is being pushed hard or something, although the volume is only at 3:00, and my bass is a passive P bass. Maybe I'll try it out plugged into the Low input to see if that makes any difference.

The DB50 breaks up anywhere past half volume, but as this will not be my gigging rig (!) it should be ok - more available volume than my 40B, I think, but my ears could be playing tricks.

So I'll hang onto the DB50 for a month, play with the features and see if I can like it enough to pay for it, or if I should go cheap and try harder to figure out what is wrong with the 40B.

I've been leaving my gig rig at the drummer's house the last couple of weeks, and at 500 watts it's actually hard to get it to play quietly, so I do need a practice amp. iPod inputs and headphones out make it an attractive solution, just concerned about the Chinese fabrication.

Rev - I don't know if you're allowed to comment or not, but if so, do you have any comments on QC or returns from these Chinese units?
 
#86
BillMason said:
Rev - I don't know if you're allowed to comment or not, but if so, do you have any comments on QC or returns from these Chinese units?
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I can't speak for the other stores or for YSL, but we haven't had any DB50s or DB100s come back to the best of my knowledge.

62Bass, we have the new DB300T in store, you should drop by and check it out this weekend!
 
#87
RevGroove said:
I can't speak for the other stores or for YSL, but we haven't had any DB50s or DB100s come back to the best of my knowledge.

62Bass, we have the new DB300T in store, you should drop by and check it out this weekend!
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Great. I saw something there that looked like one last weekend. Can't come in on the weekend but possibly next Tues or Wed. I'm looking forward to trying it. Do you have the 12" matching extension cab in stock?
 
#88
BillMason said:
Actually, my Bloc 40B is just a 10" speaker, 40 watts. On the way home from work today I actually rented one of the DB50s, I have it for a month for $15! :) I tried it out, and it actually sounds remarkably similar to my old Bloc 40B.

I picked my 40B up from the repair today too - they didn't actually repair it, as they said parts are no longer available, but I tried it out at home alongside the DB50, and it is remarkable, the similarity.

The break up I'd been hearing is still there, it kinda sounds like it is being pushed hard or something, although the volume is only at 3:00, and my bass is a passive P bass. Maybe I'll try it out plugged into the Low input to see if that makes any difference.

The DB50 breaks up anywhere past half volume, but as this will not be my gigging rig (!) it should be ok - more available volume than my 40B, I think, but my ears could be playing tricks.

So I'll hang onto the DB50 for a month, play with the features and see if I can like it enough to pay for it, or if I should go cheap and try harder to figure out what is wrong with the 40B.

I've been leaving my gig rig at the drummer's house the last couple of weeks, and at 500 watts it's actually hard to get it to play quietly, so I do need a practice amp. iPod inputs and headphones out make it an attractive solution, just concerned about the Chinese fabrication.

Rev - I don't know if you're allowed to comment or not, but if so, do you have any comments on QC or returns from these Chinese units?
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I'm glad you like it and that it's similar in sound. Maybe the 40B has a bad speaker.

I haven't had a chance to do a side by side comparison between my Yorkville XM50C and the Dynabass 50, but it would be interesting. Maybe I'll bring my Yorkville in with me next time and give it a shot. I do like the tilt back feature of the Dynabass. Works great in a small practice room when you have to sit close. My wife wouldn't mind the lighter weight either when she has to lift it to vacuum.
 
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62bass said:
Great. I saw something there that looked like one last weekend. Can't come in on the weekend but possibly next Tues or Wed. I'm looking forward to trying it. Do you have the 12" matching extension cab in stock?
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You must have seen something different, we just received the DB300T on Wednesday. I'll check when I'm back if we have the TC112, I believe they were sending us one of those now.



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#93
I just ordered the XB50.I pick it for $213 with free shipping.It should be here by the end of the week.These people seemed to have the best prices I could find.They also have the XB100 and othe Traynor models.Make sure you scroll through the whole list they list different prices for the same model amps:hyper:

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