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New: Zoom B3n Multi-Effects

Just got my B3N-

Yikes - I stayed up till
3am goofing with it - and its incredible

On thing that makes no sense to me is I seem to not be able to "add" devices from scratch in the empty banks - just copy and edit copies of other patches

Actually thinking of using this on tour
You can add from scratch. I found, even in empty slots, I had to delete fx, even though non were there. Clear it out that way and you should be fine.
 
You can add from scratch. I found, even in empty slots, I had to delete fx, even though non were there. Clear it out that way and you should be fine.

Sorry for what may seem like a noob question but are you designing your own effects in the preset slots through the actual pedal or on a computer via the USB connecter and software ? - thanks
 
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Just got my B3N-

Yikes - I stayed up till
3am goofing with it - and its incredible

On thing that makes no sense to me is I seem to not be able to "add" devices from scratch in the empty banks - just copy and edit copies of other patches

Actually thinking of using this on tour
Are you scrolling around the empty space in Stomp mode to add the effects? Or are you using Menu > Add to insert the hand icon into the spot where you want it to go?
 
Oh well, you are certainly right sir.
I was going to mention them but honestly I wasn't sure and didn't have a record on hand to confirm. Now, the question would be: did they use a pedal for that sound or just overdriven amps?

Just overdriven amps. I plaid e-cello and bass end 60es on a Vox 100W bass combo. You could not avoid overdriving it.
 
So my pedalboard functions to route all my instruments into an SWR Natural Blonde amp. Which is essentially a combo PA-style FRFR amplifier. Depending on how the mixer is utilized, it can be considered a dual mono signal path, or a stereo signal path with the turn of a Pan knob.

I'll start by explaining the custom pedals on the board, since the rest of the pedals can be Googled for all their relevant info:
The small A/B switch on the far right with the dark Saturn rings functions as reverse A/B switch. This serves to swap either my Stick melody or a guitar signal into the right (or 2nd signal) path. Each of those inputs are separately grounded so there's no crosstalk whatsoever if I leave both instruments connected.

The box with the meteor storm on it is a powered custom splitting/summing matrix. It passes the the bass and Stick melody or guitar signals to two individual outputs, and splits/sums them into a third output that goes to the tuner.

The 2 button small foot switch with the light Saturn rings at the bottom of the board is an accessory switch for the Beat Buddy.

So first, the bass signal:
It's the least complex of the two.
Stick bass goes directly into the SWR preamp section and comes out of the effects loop. The bass signal is passed through the meteor storm box, then goes into the Zoom B3n.

Second, guitar/Stick melody signal:
Stick melody and guitar signal first go into the A/B switch box, which then goes into the front preamp section of the SWR amp. That Right signal comes out of the effects loop, goes into the meteor storm box, then goes out into the Zoom G3xn.

Looping and the Rest
Both signals from each of the Zoom effects units are routed into the Ditto X4 looper, then to separate channels on the mixer.

The Beat Buddy goes into its own channel on the mixer.

The HOF mini reverb is on the Aux Send in mono, and that's mostly used to add a touch of reverb to the Beat Buddy signal to taste.

The Zoom MS-70CDR is connected into the effect inserts on Channels 1 and 2, which are the two instrument channels.

The mixer's main outs go back into the Returns of the two effects loops of the SWR amp. I leave the EQs on the amp mostly flat, just adding some aural exciter and just a bit of extra compression on top of the wet signal.


Since the Zooms incorporate mic'ed cab modeling that sounds amazing for the price, I think this setup is pretty ideal for doing an all-in-one FRFR setup. The mixer still has room to add in a mic on top of everything else. It's the best configuration I could come up with for a one-man-band scenario. :)

I believe if you're multi-instrumentalist or if you are considering adding some vocals to a practice space, a small mixer is an invaluable tool because it allows you to do so many different things and it will be flexible as your needs change. You also don't need to spend a ton of cash to get a good one either. The Mackie is more than capable for what I need.

Many, many thanks for the explanatins!

Cheers, Andreas
 
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Just wanted to bump this thread and voice my satisfaction with the new modeling of the B3n (and G5n). Very happy with the quality of the sounds and ease of operation live (as if you all didn't know already). I hope ZOOM continues to spoil us with more additional models. How can they have gone so long without posting up the GK800RB? That's gotta be coming sometime soon, I hope.
 
Just wanted to bump this thread and voice my satisfaction with the new modeling of the B3n (and G5n). Very happy with the quality of the sounds and ease of operation live (as if you all didn't know already). I hope ZOOM continues to spoil us with more additional models. How can they have gone so long without posting up the GK800RB? That's gotta be coming sometime soon, I hope.

Completely agree, except I am hoping for a B-15 model next ;)

Cheers!
 
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Since we're giving our Xmas lists, I've been really good and am hoping for a new B7n ;)

And a decent compressor effect. I don't care if it takes 3 slots, it would be worth it.

Yeah. This would be great. I still have a hot/cold relationship with the comps in the B3n. Real narrow sweet spot so far, but I've yet to spend a lot of time with all of the comps to this point. Honestly, a really good 2 slot comp/limiter would justify the entire price of the entire unit.

Part of what I'd like to see would be a Wet/Dry blend parameter on the comps. This goes a long way to making them more usable. Or, as an alternative, a detector with a tunable HPF to keep the low stuff from causing early onset compression pumping.
 
I'm planning a simple pedal board of putting my B3n with AT System 10 Stompbox wireless transceiver only. Some pictures seen in this thread were using custom pedal boards, Temple Audio Board, or smaller Pedaltrain. I'd like to know is there anyone using B3n with Pedaltrain Metro16/20/24?

Appreciate if you can post the pics.
 
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Saw this link from the B3n FaceBook page for Choptones. They sell presets and sounds for all kinds of modelers. This is worth a look/listen! [Not affiliated in any way....just passing along helpful demos and info.]





Zoom B3n Bass Essentials vol.1

Hah! I was wondering if he'd get around to doing some B3n patches.

I have my G3xn filled with quite a few of his guitar-oriented ones, overwriting the vast majority of the factory patches.
 
Saw this link from the B3n FaceBook page for Choptones. They sell presets and sounds for all kinds of modelers. This is worth a look/listen! [Not affiliated in any way....just passing along helpful demos and info.]





Zoom B3n Bass Essentials vol.1

Seems a bit silly to me. I don't see that there is any added value to these. One can create the same thing on their own. I was hoping that they had new effect or amp sims, not just patches using the current assets. Oh well, I guess if they have what you want then there is value there for you.
 
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Seems a bit silly to me. I don't see that there is any added value to these. One can create the same thing on their own. I was hoping that they had new effect or amp sims, not just patches using the current assets. Oh well, I guess if they have what you want then there is value there for you.

Value of purchasing presets made by others is subjective. Would I buy them? Probably not, but some may like to see how others approach sound creation. The videos looked interesting and had some good sounds IMO.
 
Saw this link from the B3n FaceBook page for Choptones. They sell presets and sounds for all kinds of modelers. This is worth a look/listen! [Not affiliated in any way....just passing along helpful demos and info.]





Zoom B3n Bass Essentials vol.1

Jim thanks for posting! I may actually have to pick one of these up and hope for a GK sim in an update. Especially if my Plex continues to have "issues". ;)
Brent