Thank you for the info Charlie. I'm going to give my B3 a little hug when I get home. I was sooooo hoping an update was coming when they updated the MS series.
Take care,
Brent
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New: Zoom B3n Multi-Effects
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Take care,
Brent
I had the B3 on my pedal board for about a year, along with a compressor, Octaver, overdrive, fuzz, eq, and tuner. When I got my B3n I put my whole pedal board in the closet and it has stayed there. I use the B3n for my cover band which uses a varinety of pop/rock/soul/synth tones. I've been happy with the sounds I'm getting. It has been simple and consistent for me live.
So I may be in the minority here, since I've purchased his patches for the G3xn.
I found that a lot of the Zoom factory patches on the G3xn sounded over the top or just weren't something I'd use on a regular basis. Like they were more of a demonstration of "here's all the things the unit can do," rather than making a more versatile set of patches that are ideal for using in a FRFR/PA situation. So I used a few of his packs of patches to overwrite most of the factory patches.
When emulating a distorted guitar tone in a FRFR application, I find that this kind of unit really shines when you start layering the right EQ settings. His heavy distorted patches will sometimes incorporate 2-3 different 7 band EQ sets layered on one another. It lends well to making a very workable tone that requires little to no tweaking, especially for heavy metal sounds.
It's convenient that his patches sound really great out of the box, and on the occasion of when they can be nabbed for $7 on sale for 10-15 patches, it's hard to pass up for a great "plug and play" sort of thing.
So now that I have a nice collection of usable sounds, primarily for guitar, I've copied some of his tricks from his assets into my patches for Chapman Stick melody. Some work, some don't. But now my G3xn has a much more versatile starting point than at its factory settings.
Thank God for having a Paypal GAS fund. This past week from the classifieds I got an MS-60b. Liked it, got a B3, loved it and just got a new B3n from a nice guy in the classifieds.
@Backsnack - now you've done it! I'm really curious what all is going on with these presets now.
I agree WRT the factory presets being over-the-top. The only reason I feel I might not want them is that I've been able to get along well with the B3n and G5n to this point. But the price for the presets seems more than fair.
I agree WRT the factory presets being over-the-top. The only reason I feel I might not want them is that I've been able to get along well with the B3n and G5n to this point. But the price for the presets seems more than fair.
That's a MONSTER board right there. Just be sure and power them all separately.
Don't quite understand the 2-3 seven band EQ sets layered thing. Other than more than the stock amount of boost or cut in any one band why is it needed? Is this done without taking up all of the effect slots? I'm curious. Thanks!
I wonder if we will see a B3nx soon to compete with Boss' new release?
PS I am not starting a multi fx brawl I'm just speculating.
Brent
PS I am not starting a multi fx brawl I'm just speculating.
Brent
Honestly, I am thinking about chaining them all together to see what happens. I could essentially have what? 12 effects going at the same time?
I've never bought a pack of presets. However, I can certainly see how somebody would find them valuable.
These units, especially the higher-end ones, can get extremely complicated in the process of creating a patch. Not that it's hard to put them together per se, but it's hard to tweak them and tune them and get the sound you're looking for. This is especially true when you get to the units that have IR loading, separate amp and cab models, mic models and parameters to change the placement of the mic, global parameters like EQ and input pad, the ability to create parallel paths, and on and on.
As an anecdote, a lot of people went on the Helix boards and complained that they thought the sound sucked. Like, they loved the sound of the demo videos, but got theirs and couldn't get a usable tone out of it. Harsh fizz, boomy bass, clank... The problem wasn't with the unit, the problem was that building a patch up from scratch requires knowledge beyond what you would need to know to set up a chain of discrete pedals going into an amp.
Aside from just getting past the sometimes daunting task of getting a good initial basic sound, there are some people out there (Glenn Delaune comes to mind) who are absolute wizards at getting multi-fx pedals to create rather amazing sounds.
So, to each their own. I've never bought one, but I like that they're out there.
Well, I just went back and listened to the video. So while I stand by my last post in theory, I have to agree that this set is...uninspiring...
Yeah I'm actually considering adding a second MS-70CDR to my setup be able to do this.
I think there were a couple good ones in there, but I wasn't super excited by the vast majority of them.
I just had one come in from a classified's deal. Initially when this unit was announced I didn't like the look of it cosmetically compared to the B3. Now that it's in my hands, in my opinion it looks more professional and makes the B3 look almost like a "toy". Feels a lot more solid in it's construction as well. Can't wait to get the hell out of work and go home to plug this in.
If you said you had malaria they'd send you home right quick. Just sayin'...
Not in this redneck section of Maine! "No days off."
You're not putting those two on your previous board shown on the other thread (the PT Metro 20 with the B3)?
