Just realised there is no AcBs Pre, wasn't that the only option for a Hpf? It's an always on feature for me.
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New: Zoom B3n Multi-Effects
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I'm already applying money slowly to my Amazon account! By the time the release date rolls around I should be ready to order.
Well they did say that there will be additional models available for download so maybe it will be there.
There is no doubt in my mind that besides the color of paint on the chassis, the G3n and B3n are identical hardware, yet we bass players are forced to pay $50 more for their device.
With this said, I am now starting to doubt that Zoom will allow bass models on guitar hardware (and vice-versa) via download and Guitar Lab software.
We shall see!
With this said, I am now starting to doubt that Zoom will allow bass models on guitar hardware (and vice-versa) via download and Guitar Lab software.
We shall see!
The new drive engines seem promising !!
But no 15" cab sim. I really like the AG15 on the B3 when playing with headphones.
But no 15" cab sim. I really like the AG15 on the B3 when playing with headphones.
To think, with the extra $50 Zoom is squeezing we bass players for, all they needed to do was use $5 of it to include an XLR output and almost guarantee themselves more less-reluctant players to squeeze! 
The latest Facebook comments on the XLR elimination are merciless!
The latest Facebook comments on the XLR elimination are merciless!
I'll pay an extra $50 if they take the Bomber off the list.
Weird how upset people are over something that was IMO not very usable to begin with.To think, with the extra $50 Zoom is squeezing we bass players for, all they needed to do was use $5 of it to include an XLR output and almost guarantee themselves more less-reluctant players to squeeze!
The latest Facebook comments on the XLR elimination are merciless!
That's funny - I actually found some uses for Bomber. The intro to Little Red Corvette comes to mind.
The endless loop appears to me as follows:
- Zoom releases a new guitar product
- Product shortcomings are identified
- The bass community hopes for a similar device less the shortcomings
- Zoom releases yet another guitar product with same shortcomings
- The bass community is doubtful
- Zoom finally releases the bass product with identical shortcomings, but costing $50 more than the guitar product
- Disappointment ensues
- Zoom sells fewer bass units than guitar and further de-values the bass market
I am curious to learn how much room there is on the hardware for the downloading of new models before space runs out.
- IIRC, the unit shipped with somewhere a little under 50% of total memory occupied by models and effects. To date, with all of the added fx and models added, there is still about +/-40% of the available space left...IOW, LOTS of room left.
Equally, I am curious to learn if it is possible to delete the default included models (in addition to the downloadable ones of course.)
- I don't think you can remove models and effects once they are installed. Not 100% sure about this, but I believe I tried to get rid of some stuff and had no luck.
Perhaps G5n owners can answer this already?
The answer to question 2 above may also answer if it would be feasible then to turn a G5n into a true B5n (and not a G5n, with stock guitar models, and with a finite amount of bass downloadables also on board.)
- I wouldn't hold my breath that ZOOM will allow models and effects to be downloaded tp include cross-populating the G5n/G3n with the B3n models. I'd love this to be the case so that I could just keep my G5n and have all the bass goodies to boot. I've noticed that some of the new G5n effects have made it across to the B3n.
Thanks!
Q: Are stock, built-in G5n effects also available for download to the G5n? This would indicate that one could perhaps recover them if need be (and that they are deletable)?
I don't think so. I've never seen them by themselves. I do wonder if re-initializing firmware resets the unit WITHOUT any added models. I'm not so tempted to find out, but that might be a way back to square one to blow out new downloaded models you don't want.
The pedal is still stuck to fixed parameters and looking at the list, effects really aren't original or innovative at all, save the Bk pedals.
What does that mean, exactly?
OK. So it doesn't appeal to your sensibilities. No problem with that. I personally am just looking for some good sounding core tones that won't break the bank. Considering the price of a B7k, if this pedal can do a worthy job of emulating it for just a couple of good tones, it would almost prove its worth right there alone, no? Ditto for the compressors (Demeter and 1176).
If you want to get all whizz-bang with unique effects, skip the amp/cab modeling and use up all 7 slots with various effects and home brew your own custom sounds. I'm pretty sure that with some creativity, there's a lot to be discovered. Where this pedal can stall is the fact that it is only a single, serial signal path, but that's to be expected from a relatively cheap pedal IMO.
I own 20yo multis that let you control any effect parameter with the expression pedal. It shouldn't be too difficult to implement. Here it's only 1 fixed parameter for choosen effects.
Sure, I understand. Clearly, ZOOM isn't concerned about that aspect of function with this new series of pedals, and is keeping it simple. No gripes from me, personally, b/c I'm not looking for this to provide advanced programming features, but rather, to behave more or less just like a bunch of stomps with some "always on" modeling/cab sim. No doubt, those who want deeper, more advanced features are going to be disappointed, but I'm guessing ZOOM feels that for every one of you, there are 20 others who don't really want or need that. JMHO.
FWIW, I'm an effects control/programming junkie. Back in the day, the TC G-Force and Fireworx didn't offer enough, so I went on to Fractal Audio (AxeFx Ultra, AxeFx II), and that pretty much ended my search. Just to say that I, too, enjoy advanced control of multiple parameters for live performance and sheer enjoyment. When the gig calls for it, I use what is best suited. For simple gigs, I like to have simple, efficient, effective gear. I don't like carrying more than I need, and that's where the Zoom stuff fits in.
I really dig into my B3. Love this pedal. I use it as USB Audio Interface in my cheap home studio, live performances(most for modulation and crazy ambience effect) and DI output. I did not use Cab/Amp sim's. But there's some effects that i really love that are not included in B3n... I will wait for a "BXn" with exp, DI and more effects. Them i will keep my B3 as audio interface or change it for a real one.
