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New: Zoom B3n Multi-Effects

#3,501
Hey @Johno Dunn
Here are my settings for the "Sledge " patch. As I said I really didn't have time to tweak much and I just picked up a set of Tascam reference headphones which I haven't used much. I find them a bit dark sounding? I'm using a Fender AVRI 62 Jazz with fairly new Dunlop Super Bright nickels.
NYC Muff-Before amp sim - Sustain 61 Tone 80 Bal 73 Vol 33
Ampg SVT Bass 0 Mid Freq 2.5 K Mid 1.5 Treble 8 Gain 30 Ultra Hi Vol 71 Solo 3
SVT 8x10 dyn 20-50 dyn 57-50 bottom 50 balance 50

That's it! I hope it works for you.
Brent
 
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BrentSimons said:
Hey @Johno Dunn
Here are my settings for the "Sledge " patch. As I said I really didn't have time to tweak much and I just picked up a set of Tascam reference headphones which I haven't used much. I find them a bit dark sounding? I'm using a Fender AVRI 62 Jazz with fairly new Dunlop Super Bright nickels.
NYC Muff-Before amp sim - Sustain 61 Tone 80 Bal 73 Vol 33
Ampg SVT Bass 0 Mid Freq 2.5 K Mid 1.5 Treble 8 Gain 30 Ultra Hi Vol 71 Solo 3
SVT 8x10 dyn 20-50 dyn 57-50 bottom 50 balance 50

That's it! I hope it works for you.
Brent
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Thanks! I’ll check this out!
 
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primussucks9126 said:


Here's a quick clip with some dinky noodly riffs. It's not perfect, but hopefully it'll help.

The order for all of them is clean (Kallas/Warmoth Jag, Reeves C225, Greenboy Dually T, Heil PR40), B:Assmaster, B3n, B3n with additional processing. The last clip has a filter added to the end of the chain.

A few things I noticed. In addition to the High-mids ripping through with the B:Assmaster, it also adds a nice bump in the lower mids. I only tested the fuzz last night, without any of the clean blended in on either pedal, so I didn't notice that. I'd guess that this could be added with a PEQ, bumping the lo channel in the splitter, or just blending in more clean .

Recording direct I noticed that even with the HPF on the B3n, the Highs were still harsh, so I added an additional HPF around 3k in my DAW, but I'm sure it could be replicated in the B3n by some tweaking.

The B:Assmster really shines in the 3rd clip to me, which was an attempt to show that touch sensitivity and super clean gate. I haven't nailed that on the B3n

The filter (B3n Bass auto wah) at the end was mostly to goof off, but also to show that if you're adding another serious effect afterwards, the differences become less apparent.

Let me know if you have any questions!
Paul
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Hi Paul,
I finally had time to give this a try last night. i had a really hard time trying to control the overall volume of the octave fuzz on the B3n. it was too much of a boost when on. If I turned down the boost control it didn't sound right and if I reduced the fuzz control I encountered the same problem. I was running it into the Ampeg SVT sim with 8x10 cab sim. Any thoughts?
Thank you,
Brent
 
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BrentSimons said:
Hi Paul,
I finally had time to give this a try last night. i had a really hard time trying to control the overall volume of the octave fuzz on the B3n. it was too much of a boost when on. If I turned down the boost control it didn't sound right and if I reduced the fuzz control I encountered the same problem. I was running it into the Ampeg SVT sim with 8x10 cab sim. Any thoughts?
Thank you,
Brent
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Hmmmm. I generally don't run the amp sims with my octfuzz patch.

Lowering the master volume on the SVT doesn't help?

Alternatively, you can also lower the patch volume.

So you'd have one patch as your clean, and a separate patch with the fuzz on instead of just kicking the fuzz on within the patch.
 
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primussucks9126 said:
Hmmmm. I generally don't run the amp sims with my octfuzz patch.

Lowering the master volume on the SVT doesn't help?

Alternatively, you can also lower the patch volume.

So you'd have one patch as your clean, and a separate patch with the fuzz on instead of just kicking the fuzz on within the patch.
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Not much. I was looking for a more "unity gain" sort of thing so it wasn't such an abrupt volume boost when I engaged the fuzz. I only spent about 30 minutes with it. I'll try tweaking it a bit more tonight. Even though it was SUPER LOUD I was getting some great tones! :bassist:
Thanks,
Brent
 
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BrentSimons said:
Hey Fellas,
Have any of you used different preamps (analog or digital) or other effects pedals in conjunction with the 3n? What were your results?
For the first time in a long time I feel like buying something. ;)
Thank you in advance,
Brent
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Yep

Liked a different wah better and the empress compressor. Each of those cost as much or more than the b3n...
 
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BrentSimons said:
Hey Fellas,
Have any of you used different preamps (analog or digital) or other effects pedals in conjunction with the 3n? What were your results?
For the first time in a long time I feel like buying something. ;)
Thank you in advance,
Brent
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I picked up a Dunlop MXR Bass Compressor before I owned my B3n. I still prefer the Dunlop as a limiter for slap, only engaging on lower string thumps and for driver protection. It's very transparent, and the LED metering is a nice touch. I have it right before my Zoom in my signal path.
 
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munkeyfish said:
Let's see them again! I want to see you pedal boards/setup with the B3N. I'm sure there is new boards and updates to the old ones.
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Well, done never is attainable. I took part of the day to do some work on the pedal board. The Behringer
MicroMON MA400 1-Ch Monitor Headphone Amplifier is the best $25 I have ever spent on cheap guitar gear. I love LOVE how I can mix the feed from the mixing board into it and dial more bass in as needed. It is surprisingly clear and plenty loud. Really looking forward to trying this out at rehearsal on Tuesday.

New Pedalboard.jpg
 
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BrentSimons said:
Everything worked well though? No clipping on the B3n or anything like that? What was your signal path?
Thanks a bunch!
Brent
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Yes works great.

I use the b3n at the end of the chain.

Empress - muff - wah - flanger - b3n.

B3n is now relegated to pitch, delay, volume and amp some.

If I want to try something i my different I usually use b3n to try it out.

All gains are at unity - I use a one spot pro for everything and the entire board is silent.
 
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Well, decided to jump headlong into the multi-effects world. First multi unit for me and the B3n seems to be easy enough to get along with so far, but I know I've barely scratched the surface. I've played around with it for a couple hours now and I think I have it set up good enough to get me through a gig tomorrow night. Wish me luck! :nailbiting:
 
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great tones

great tones
mikeyjm2 said:
Well, decided to jump headlong into the multi-effects world. First multi unit for me and the B3n seems to be easy enough to get along with so far, but I know I've barely scratched the surface. I've played around with it for a couple hours now and I think I have it set up good enough to get me through a gig tomorrow night. Wish me luck! :nailbiting:
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Let us know how it turns out.
 
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mikeyjm2 said:
Well, decided to jump headlong into the multi-effects world. First multi unit for me and the B3n seems to be easy enough to get along with so far, but I know I've barely scratched the surface. I've played around with it for a couple hours now and I think I have it set up good enough to get me through a gig tomorrow night. Wish me luck! :nailbiting:
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I don't think I'll ever get past just scratching the surface! But for me that's the beauty of the B3n - you can start off using it as a tuner and then add various options as you need them, building in complexity as you need it. It's simple to use and control (apart from spending ages trying to find unity gain :( )
 
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Does anyone have any tips for using the DG sims? I’ve heard some people get some really good growly gain with them, but they seem kinda flat when I experiment with them. Does it depend on anything else? Compression? Super lively pickups? Louder volumes?
 
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StuntGibbon said:
Does anyone have any tips for using the DG sims? I’ve heard some people get some really good growly gain with them, but they seem kinda flat when I experiment with them. Does it depend on anything else? Compression? Super lively pickups? Louder volumes?
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I've had the most luck with the DarkGlass drives when I'm running them into the Ampeg SVT amp model and cab simulation. Otherwise, you have to do a bit of work taming the top end sizzle that otherwise happens somewhat naturally when running into an amp/cabinet.
 
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First gig with the B3n last night went really well. I used 9 patches set up in 3 banks, with the most frequently used ones in the "middle" 3 slots of the banks to minimize switching banks up and down. The gig was very old school kind of set up - no FOH support so I really got a good dose of the B3n tones from my amp directly behind me. I'm really impressed with it for the price point. I made it a point to set up the output levels of each of the patches earlier in the day to try to keep volume level fairly consistent when switching from one to the other, but that is really the only thing I could say was the slightest bit of a "hassle" in set up.

The only hiccup I ran into was my own boneheaded move, involving the built-in tuner. I had inadvertently bumped the calibration down a half step and tuned to that. Played an open E with my guitarist before starting the show and we both knew something was wrong. Rather than messing around with the B3n (since I'm not that familiar with yet) I just plugged into his tuner and tuned back up to standard. Once I got home I saw what I had done wrong so now I know what to look out for, but I probably should bring along my Boss TU-3 anyway going forward.
 
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StuntGibbon said:
Does anyone have any tips for using the DG sims? I’ve heard some people get some really good growly gain with them, but they seem kinda flat when I experiment with them. Does it depend on anything else? Compression? Super lively pickups? Louder volumes?
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I run the Mark Bass amp sim after the DG, and tame the fizz that way. Let’s me dial in just the right amount of grit!
 
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