I agree!
ATK suits me better, because it has more midrange which I ADORE, and less highs, which I don´t like! ATK is warmer IMHO!
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I agree!
ATK suits me better, because it has more midrange which I ADORE, and less highs, which I don´t like! ATK is warmer IMHO!
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Gig I played the other Friday, on Sunday the guitarist was talking to me and asked me "What Music Man were you playing the other night?"
I, among everyone else, am very impressed with the sound and it's the first ERB I've felt so comfortable with. So glad I was able to pick one up.
Gig I played the other Friday, on Sunday the guitarist was talking to me and asked me "What Music Man were you playing the other night?"
I, among everyone else, am very impressed with the sound and it's the first ERB I've felt so comfortable with. So glad I was able to pick one up.
You talkin' 'bout me, man?
Looks like the body has a tighter radius on it...more of a slab and the single coil looks to be a tad closer to the bridge than on my 750.
I like that, as it was just a tad tight on my 750..had to alter my technique a bit when doing double thumb stuff.
I'm wondering about these CAP pickups....info says that its a double bucker....
I'm thinkin' a bit of a change in tone compared to what we've had in the past.
Street price 1499.00 on these bad boys
You talkin' 'bout me, man?
Looks like the body has a tighter radius on it...more of a slab and the single coil looks to be a tad closer to the bridge than on my 750.
I like that, as it was just a tad tight on my 750..had to alter my technique a bit when doing double thumb stuff.
I'm wondering about these CAP pickups....info says that its a double bucker....
I'm thinkin' a bit of a change in tone compared to what we've had in the past.
Street price 1499.00 on these bad boys
Yep! I agree with your observations.
I respect that Ibanez is trying to improve them, but I gotta tell ya, honestly....it makes me a little nervous! I dont want them to screw up a good thing. Moving the single coil...ok, changing the shape and maybe losing a pound...ok, blend knob...ok(should have been done already IMO). Changing the heart and soul of the ATK from single coils to double-bucks? Now, I'm getting nervous!
Maybe it will be like when Fender changed from single coil to split coil P's and make the single coil ATK's "old school" , haha
Couple things ran thru my mind,Thand
Ibanez now has a deal with Nordstrand...who makes a Musicman style pickup....could mean more business for Carey....nothing wrong with that
The shape change is a good idea considering how many replacement pickups are offered for those who want to tinker.
I don't understand the change from the triple-bucker to a double bucker,though.
I may understand once I get my hands on one or I might walk away scratchin' my head...we'll see.
In any case, it'll be a finely crafted instrument as every Prestige model I've played has been.
Ibanez now has a deal with Nordstrand...who makes a Musicman style pickup....could mean more business for Carey....nothing wrong with that
The shape change is a good idea considering how many replacement pickups are offered for those who want to tinker.
I don't understand the change from the triple-bucker to a double bucker,though.
I may understand once I get my hands on one or I might walk away scratchin' my head...we'll see.
In any case, it'll be a finely crafted instrument as every Prestige model I've played has been.
Here it is fella's ... a killer shot from the Ibanez booth ... mine's on order
Any word on the price.Did they say anything about that in NAMM?
$1,499!!!!! No offense to anyone, but this is a rather high price for a 4-string bass even for a Prestige, sorry.
I don't need to list them, but there are many other options at this price point that, IMHO, surpass the ATK1200 in options, materials, electronics...etc. The ATK is supposed to be a MM alternative, but at this price a Stingray is an option.
I wish Ibanez the best, but I just hate that the ATK 1200 will sell poorly and end up on a blowout at MF for $750 a year from now, and then no more ATKs.
Even at the price point that the Prestige ATK is at, I'd take it any day over it's competition.
I prefer the look, feel and tone over EBMM's "alternative".
The ATK series has apparently done well enough for it to be offered in the Prestige line...even if it's only for a short time.
In any case, I'll be a proud owner of one
I prefer the look, feel and tone over EBMM's "alternative".
The ATK series has apparently done well enough for it to be offered in the Prestige line...even if it's only for a short time.
In any case, I'll be a proud owner of one
+1
I'm quite happy with the 3 I have and the chance to own a Prestige ATK is extremely tempting. All that's left now is to see how many shows I can book so I can buy myself one! I'm looking forward to your evaluation Funk Factor.
meh.
The price only matters when you are purchasing it. How well it sounds and plays, and if you can feel a connection to it is what matters in the long run.
Doesn't matter if you had to pay $150 or $1500 to get it in your house. Once it's in the stable, it's in the stable.
The price only matters when you are purchasing it. How well it sounds and plays, and if you can feel a connection to it is what matters in the long run.
Doesn't matter if you had to pay $150 or $1500 to get it in your house. Once it's in the stable, it's in the stable.
I think it's an interesting and bold move by Ibanez, to price the Prestige close to EBMM territory.
If the overall package is good enough, I could see it being a good thing- potential purchasers might start to see the new model as a viable 'Ray alternative, instead of a cut-price, entry-level option.
I like the neck pickup placement, and the body wood in the catalogue photo looks very nice indeed. Hopefully the weight is down a little and the electronics are up to scratch, as well.
The control layout could hurt it, though, if the website is to be believed. The graphic shows the knob layout as mids/volume/character sw in the top row, and bass/balance/treble on the bottom row. Not exactly intuitive.
I can see it turning people off in stores, if they can't find the bleepin' volume control. I would have thought that putting the volume and balance next to the bridge, and running the tone controls as bass/mid/treble along the edge of the body, would make more sense.
When people find a good bass for $500, they don't mind re-arranging a few knobs to make it work better. Stick a one in front of the price, and they expect it to be top-notch right out of the box...
If the overall package is good enough, I could see it being a good thing- potential purchasers might start to see the new model as a viable 'Ray alternative, instead of a cut-price, entry-level option.
I like the neck pickup placement, and the body wood in the catalogue photo looks very nice indeed. Hopefully the weight is down a little and the electronics are up to scratch, as well.
The control layout could hurt it, though, if the website is to be believed. The graphic shows the knob layout as mids/volume/character sw in the top row, and bass/balance/treble on the bottom row. Not exactly intuitive.
I can see it turning people off in stores, if they can't find the bleepin' volume control. I would have thought that putting the volume and balance next to the bridge, and running the tone controls as bass/mid/treble along the edge of the body, would make more sense.
When people find a good bass for $500, they don't mind re-arranging a few knobs to make it work better. Stick a one in front of the price, and they expect it to be top-notch right out of the box...
I think it is just a bad pic on the website or because of low res, I thought I saw it as top row: Balance, Volume; bottom row: treble, mid, bass.
I hadn't paid any attention to the control layout, Steve....
I agree, it's not what you'd expect, but they have those nifty transparent thingee's that tell ya what's what.
The fact that the layout has changed might be an indication that the pots have boards on them, as my Glock preamp does, and it was necessary to lay it out as such.
To be sure they aren't using the same preamp that is used in the 300/700 series.
ATK's may have been dismissed by a number of people who thought that it's a "500.00" bass....some of those may look at the Prestige model with a renewed interest...who knows?
IMHO, it's a hell of a lot more than a 500.00 bass...that's me though.
I've owned 2 BTB Prestige basses...a 6 string with the old body style and a 5'er with the new body style....both on par, or exceeding, anything I've played at that price point and well above...they just weren't ATK's...so I sold 'em
Yeah,..it's a lot of clams....but folks spend that much everyday for Fenders, EBMM's,..etc... everyday because it's what they want.
If an ATK Prestige is ultimately what ya want, I don't see the difference.
Until now, our options were the 300/700 series...Kudo's to Ibanez for offering a l'il something more for die hard fans like myself....hell...I like bologna sandwiches...don't mind eatin' 'em for a while.
And I imagine it'll be top notch, right outta the box
I agree, it's not what you'd expect, but they have those nifty transparent thingee's that tell ya what's what.
The fact that the layout has changed might be an indication that the pots have boards on them, as my Glock preamp does, and it was necessary to lay it out as such.
To be sure they aren't using the same preamp that is used in the 300/700 series.
ATK's may have been dismissed by a number of people who thought that it's a "500.00" bass....some of those may look at the Prestige model with a renewed interest...who knows?
IMHO, it's a hell of a lot more than a 500.00 bass...that's me though.
I've owned 2 BTB Prestige basses...a 6 string with the old body style and a 5'er with the new body style....both on par, or exceeding, anything I've played at that price point and well above...they just weren't ATK's...so I sold 'em
Yeah,..it's a lot of clams....but folks spend that much everyday for Fenders, EBMM's,..etc... everyday because it's what they want.
If an ATK Prestige is ultimately what ya want, I don't see the difference.
Until now, our options were the 300/700 series...Kudo's to Ibanez for offering a l'il something more for die hard fans like myself....hell...I like bologna sandwiches...don't mind eatin' 'em for a while.
And I imagine it'll be top notch, right outta the box
Funk Factor said:
My point exactly. Feel and sound-wise, our 300's and 305's are worth more than $500, with only little quality niggles like badly-drilled cavity cover screw-holes to spoil the vibe.
But lots of serious players (like me) don't normally spare even a glance for anything under $1K. So more aggressive pricing (combined with Japanese build quality) might actually increase sales, because of the snob factor.
Instruments can be under-priced just as easily as overpriced- IF the value is there...
I'm a serious player Steve...over 30 years experience...
The cost of your instrument doesn't have much to do with ability, though I'm sure some think that it does
I've owned a lot of basses in the 1200.00 to 1500.00 range...played a bunch in the 3 to 5000.00
At one time I wouldn't look at anything that didn't say "Made In USA"
Games changed a bit, IMO...I'm glad I don't have to spend thousandsof dollars to get the tone and playability that I desire
If I won the lottery my choice of instrument wouldn't change...
I'd just have a lot more of 'em
My name is Paul...and I'm an ATKaholic
The cost of your instrument doesn't have much to do with ability, though I'm sure some think that it does
I've owned a lot of basses in the 1200.00 to 1500.00 range...played a bunch in the 3 to 5000.00
At one time I wouldn't look at anything that didn't say "Made In USA"
Games changed a bit, IMO...I'm glad I don't have to spend thousandsof dollars to get the tone and playability that I desire
If I won the lottery my choice of instrument wouldn't change...
I'd just have a lot more of 'em
My name is Paul...and I'm an ATKaholic
Note to self, never underestimate the snob factor.
Seriously though and as I have already said before, I wish the best for Ibanez because they make quality basses and offer them at competitive prices.
In the case of the ATK 1200 and the $1500 street price, I just can't avoid thinking about other options before taking the dive. I mean I probably could get a 5-string built-to-my-specs Carvin SB5000 at a comparable cost. Lots of customization options, decent if not excellent build quality, comparable to the Prestige line at least, I could make it fretless, or fretted with whatever wood combination I desire. IMHO, it's hard to ignore.
In a word, I guess what I wanna say is, the pricing of the ATK 1200 doesn't make this bass a no-brainer for non ATK die-hards.
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