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So I've had the chance to test my newly purchased SM at a few full volume rehearsals and....so far I don't love it. Don't get me wrong, the combination of tone and output for a box of its size is incredible. However, I did find that the low end output was not quite satisfactory for my needs, even with bass EQ adjusted (and it took some time to find an EQ I really liked with the cab with my Streamliner head). I also have to push my amp harder than I did with my last cabinet (Markbass NY 122) to keep up with my (fairly loud) band - not excessively hard, just harder than before.

I have a few gigs coming up soon, so I will be testing the SM in live venue situations to continue to feel it out. Unless I fall in love with it, might be looking for a trade for a SC or BB2 (or maybe the Retro 210 would be more to my liking) if they would be more suitable one cab solutions for me. Sorry if it sounds like I'm raining on the BF parade - and I might end up keeping the SM and be very happy with it - but just thought I'd share my initial impressions.

Give it some time to break in. I wasn't in ecstatic love with my One10 until it had some play time on it. It definitely got better.
 
A question or 3 for other Big Twin 2 users ...

I use an Ashdown ABM 500 to drive mine & my main weapons of choice are a Fender Jazz, Gibson Tbird, Mike Lull JT4. Playing wise I mainly play with a pick.

My questions are:-
what Amps do you guys & girls use?

Have you ever used an Ashdown amp to drive your Barefaced?
If you have, have you felt the need to change from an Ashdown?
(No bad on Ashdown, I just feel like a change cos I've been using ABMs since 2002)

& have you a preference of on one branded amp over any other ?

Adios

Jass

GK MB800. Lush!
 
Okay guys, if all of a sudden anybody decides to part with their One10 let me know ;)

Ha ha, lots of positioning here. This guy wants a One10, that guy wants a SM, the other gal wants the Four10... would be funny to see a whole bunch of gear change hands with a one purchase of a Four10. "This is the cat that killed the rat that ate the malt that lay in the house that Jack built."
 
Introductory price on the Four10 is about $290 USD less that what it will be, after that initial price expires. They only have 10 at this price... not sure of that's 10 of the metal grill and 10 of the cloth, or it's just the first 10 of either kind, period; I suspect the latter. Also FWIW, they have them in stock so, no waiting for a build job. If you want one, there's no better time than now. Just sayin'. Now, who's moving up and has a SM for sale? :woot:
 
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Just got my super compact and played for an hour or so. I don't like it at all.

Just kidding. It's absolutely fantastic! The mid range detail, the low end heft without boom, the huge power handling without loss of fidelity, the unbelievable light weight and convenient size... I'm in love!
 
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Just got my super compact and played for an hour or so. I don't like it at all.

Just kidding. It's absolutely fantastic! The mid range detail, the low end heft without boom, the huge power handling without loss of fidelity, the unbelievable light weight and convenient size... I'm in love!

I am sorry that you'll have to sell it to buy a Four10.

Just kidding, glad you like it. Sweet cabs, these Barefaced. Also like your 700RB and P. I'll bet they all sound awesome together.

The sound gets even better as it breaks in, so if you love it now, you'll want to marry it in a few days.
 
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I am sorry that you'll have to sell it to buy a Four10.

Just kidding, glad you like it. Sweet cabs, these Barefaced. Also like your 700RB and P. I'll bet they all sound awesome together.

The sound gets even better as it breaks in, so if you love it now, you'll want to marry it in a few days.

BTW, playing with your TH350, does the clip light comes on and does the amp distort the signal? My TH350 clip light is flashing all the time but I love the tone.
 
BTW, playing with your TH350, does the clip light comes on and does the amp distort the signal? My TH350 clip light is flashing all the time but I love the tone.

It's pretty rare that the clip light on my TH350 comes on for me, but I haven't noticed anything unpleasant sound-wise when it does. Aguilar goes to lengths to stress that the clip light can be on all day long and there will be no harm to your speakers.
 
It's pretty rare that the clip light on my TH350 comes on for me, but I haven't noticed anything unpleasant sound-wise when it does. Aguilar goes to lengths to stress that the clip light can be on all day long and there will be no harm to your speakers.
Do you use -10dB input pad? I tried to use it as I supposed to with my active basses but it just cuts the volume.
 
So I've had the chance to test my newly purchased SM at a few full volume rehearsals and....so far I don't love it. Don't get me wrong, the combination of tone and output for a box of its size is incredible. However, I did find that the low end output was not quite satisfactory for my needs, even with bass EQ adjusted (and it took some time to find an EQ I really liked with the cab with my Streamliner head). I also have to push my amp harder than I did with my last cabinet (Markbass NY 122) to keep up with my (fairly loud) band - not excessively hard, just harder than before.

I have a few gigs coming up soon, so I will be testing the SM in live venue situations to continue to feel it out. Unless I fall in love with it, might be looking for a trade for a SC or BB2 (or maybe the Retro 210 would be more to my liking) if they would be more suitable one cab solutions for me. Sorry if it sounds like I'm raining on the BF parade - and I might end up keeping the SM and be very happy with it - but just thought I'd share my initial impressions.

Honest opinions are fine. I didn't find the low end on the SM to be big enough in certain settings. The SC is a nice step up if you don't need the tweeter, and want a fuller bottom. The BB2 is even bigger. The 210 is about as loud as the SC.
 
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I was a little concerned about all the power and lowend I've been able to run thru my Gen 2 BF BT-T w/Peavey MM1000. And I only use active/passive 5 stringers, Am St P5, Valenti w/Nordy pups/pre, Carvin SB5000, Godin Ultra FL-5 and my most recent-got, '15 MIM Fender DAJ-V.

So I bought a used fDeck HPF-3 from a TBer last week; thanks Ryan for the very fast ship to me. I'd read so many good things about the fDeck. I've loved what this rig has been giving me with any of my 5 string basses. But Bobby did say, he did not want any type of HP/LP built into this amp. My other amps GB 12.2, GK MB800 I believe, have some type of HPF built in. I don't think my Ampeg ri-V4B has any HP/LP built in filter(?) but yeah, I've used all those amps with my Big Twin-T at times.

So again, I was just a little concerned about overdriving this rig, although I've gotten nowhere near to doing that yet. A bassist that sat in on my rig just after I bought it, at a blues jam benefit we hosted, was driving his Sray 4 pretty hard thru my rig awhile back. I could hear that he was just slamming at his bass and getting too loud for the room. (and for my comfort) So I ran up onstage and just turned some knobs back on the MM, all sounded well afterwards. Of course afterwards he was all Ga-Ga about the big sound he had gotten....Grrr. Why I oughta....:bored:

But to be safe I figured I'd try the HPF-3 into this rig and see what all the good-fuss-hype is all about with the HPF-3. Well, at my gig this past Sat, I dialed it in as most do, with volume wide open, it only cuts if I understand that. And the filter knob over to 35Hz, the minimal cut. My rig sounded the same as it always had to me. Late that nite a friend sat in using my MIM Fender ADJ-V, Vintage White of course. What a great feeling and sounding bass this is.

So anyway, when I handed over my bass to him, I dialed the Hz knob, just a very slightly back from the 35Hz setting. Just to see what it would do. I tell you, I've heard my rig with other players on it and it does get very loud n low. With the settings I left the HPF-3 at, it had such a nice, tight well balanced tone and feel as I sat at back of this club. But with still that very familiar tone and feel.

Not totally On Topic I know just had to express my feelings about this new to me pedal. I had fun when I got back on stage dialing it around for the different 'feels' it gave me. Really tightens up this rig with the Hz knob dialed back. But nicely sounding still. Something I wasn't hearing while dialing it around alone at home. In the band mix, the fDeck really showed it's stuff to me. Very cool.

And to stay sorta OT, I doubt I'd ever get rid of this great cab. Even for a newer,lighter, smaller one. It's just so very easy for me to load/unload this cab and to move it around as well. And I just turn it up or down as needed for the room. That darn Peavey MM1000 still surprises me and bandmates at the heft it gives the notes, even at lower volumes, thru this cab. This BF cab is just slightly taller and heavier than my much loved Genz NX2-212T. Just very happy with this rig. Carry on now with your tiny cab GASing. :smug: peace y'all.
 
I remember reading somewhere that Alex didn't usually advise using an HPF because the cone excursion helped with keeping the voice coil cooler. Anyone else see that? I'm a fan of HPF's but quit using one after seeing that!

@alexclaber am I remembering that right?

HPF are ok if set low enough but they're not really needed with the Gen 3 models - set them too high and you risk running into thermal issues before you hear warning distortion. With the earlier Barefaced cabs then they're more useful as their woofers don't have so much excursion 'headroom', so a correctly set high pass can lower distortion and get you a bit more SPL.
 
So I've had the chance to test my newly purchased SM at a few full volume rehearsals and....so far I don't love it. Don't get me wrong, the combination of tone and output for a box of its size is incredible. However, I did find that the low end output was not quite satisfactory for my needs, even with bass EQ adjusted (and it took some time to find an EQ I really liked with the cab with my Streamliner head). I also have to push my amp harder than I did with my last cabinet (Markbass NY 122) to keep up with my (fairly loud) band - not excessively hard, just harder than before.

I have a few gigs coming up soon, so I will be testing the SM in live venue situations to continue to feel it out. Unless I fall in love with it, might be looking for a trade for a SC or BB2 (or maybe the Retro 210 would be more to my liking) if they would be more suitable one cab solutions for me. Sorry if it sounds like I'm raining on the BF parade - and I might end up keeping the SM and be very happy with it - but just thought I'd share my initial impressions.

I have the SM and a BB2. I typically grab the SM for practice and use it for smaller gigs. I roll off the tweeter and I find it has plenty of low end, this with 2 guitars and drums. I also run a Streamliner through it at times and like it.
Two weeks ago I stacked the SM and BB for an outdoor gig with a Mesa Subway and it had some serious booty. Last week ran the BB with a Streamliner at a show and loved the smoothness of that. I was on the fence about going with a SC or a SM, but wanted a modular solution and Alex suggested the BB/SM combo. I still am interested on what a SC stack would be like since I don't like a lot of tweeter.
I would give it some time to settle in as others have said. My bandmates are continually amazed at the sound from that little box and just laugh when they pick it up