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Official Barefaced Bass Cab Club

I'm shopping for an amp and cab very patiently....looking at lots of options. Noted that Barefaced are known for mega low end and some skip the tweeters which for me is a plus.

Anyone done an A/B comparison of BF to Acme which seem to be less well known but have a reputation for running very deep - able to reproduce a B string fundamental.

Anyone find they go too low, to a point you have to use a high pass filter or roll off the bass when playing live?

I have got a BB2 and I usually liked to add a HPf setted very low (below 32 Hz cut) AND some kind of bass cut at the amp side. This was with a Markbass head, that, contrary to the claims of the factory, has no audible cut at lowest frequencies and, in all honesty, with the barefaced it does produce a woofy confused extended undefined bass. Hate it in fact. The BB2 is deeeep as the ocean, and takes no prisoners in that range. Sometimes I think my personal taste is more towards tigher, less extended low end.
This is valid even in recordings, where i cut beastly at 50-60 Hz with no mercy, and to me it works.

Then I bought a Peavey Tour 700 (great built in HPF) and lately a Walkabout (very all tube-like hybrid). The BB2 reproduces the huge bass of the WA but the sound quality is way higher and I find myself liking it as it is. Maybe inddor I will still use some kind of HPF and or bass cut, but outdoors in another thing.

Since I got the BB2 I became fond on the idea that having a super deep cab is not my cup of tea, but i found this principle was true for some SS or class D heads. A slight amount of tube grit and natural tube harmonics of the WA compliments beautifully the badass bass of the amp + barefaced producing a huge but defined tone. Surprisingly, I found that the cab sounded quite bad with tube grit and the high frequency driver completely off, while adding the horn yelded better results to my ear...I know that the "super" range of barefaced cabs has been built for immediacy and hi-fi tone, but in my esperience a good tube tone sounds ok trough a BB2. I always used the HPF for tonal purposes only, the barefaced can safely take big bass all day long and in fact i think i never even touched their excursion limits.
 
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Sooooo...I've read some references to folks that have the BF 10 cabs saying they need to use drastic EQ. I'm curious as to what "drastic EQ" means?

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Hmmm... The only case I can see for that is if someone is trying to get an ultra hifi tone out of the 10's. If that's what was wanted then the SM or BB2 would probably have been better choices. My One10 needs no more than the usual bumpage or cuttage that I (or probably anybody) would do for the room or different bass.
 
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Sooooo...I've read some references to folks that have the BF 10 cabs saying they need to use drastic EQ. I'm curious as to what "drastic EQ" means?

Inquiring minds...

My One10 definitely requires some treble boost on the preamp compared to my other cabs playing through TH350 amp but it must be noted that TH350 amp lacks treble itself so it's on the darker side of the spectrum. I like my One10 and onother one is being finished now and will be shipped to me early next week. It is definately colored in terms of tone clarity but I like the way it is.
 
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Sooooo...I've read some references to folks that have the BF 10 cabs saying they need to use drastic EQ. I'm curious as to what "drastic EQ" means?

Inquiring minds...

To me it is partly the one cab vs two cab thing and a box-size physics thing. Regardless of brand, one cab compared to two of the same kind can sound a bit more midrange focused. My single One10 seems mid-focused by nature.

I am not extremely big on mid-focus; but EQ puts the One10 where I want it. With a single One10 like I have, there are times when I will take out a little mid or add some bass and/or sometimes add some highs. When I say 'drastic' I just mean you can get fat tone with plenty of low, the cab will take it; but sometimes it takes adding in. Most amp/cab combinations I only add or subtract a little but-- say 1 o'clock or 11 o'clock. With the single One10, I might go 10 to 2 or even 9 to 3 o'clock range. Conceivably farther if I wanted a dub reggae type sound, for example. Drastic, in my book.

I have and do use a single one10 with a drummer but not in a loud rock setting. Keep in mind the One10 box is tiny, so its inherent character will be a bit bass-shycompared to bigger boxes especially at the lower volumes I often use it at-- jazz/acoustic/etc-- but EQ puts in back in to where I want it.

I have only one One10, but I think 2 would do well for most fairly loud situations and you'd probably not feel the apparent mid bump that comes from having one vs two. I do use the One10 alone quite a bit, and like having it pole-mounted (I had a tophat put in by Alex) on a smaller-sized pole. IMO a single One10 is not going to work to fill a bar with sound with a loud drummer and multiple loud instruments; two prolly would. I know my Four10 gives me way more than I can utilize when I am in bigger/louder rooms.

SO, I like the One10 a lot, and I use it a lot, by itself. At low volumes I add some "drastic" bass, and at higher volumes maybe some bass, and/or treble boot and/or midcut. I am very satisfied with it but would recommend 2 of them (or a Two10) for rocking out hard. I plan to order a Super Midget which I think it will suit best as a one-cab super-portable solution for loudish-level bands in bigger rooms and will continue to use the Four10 or Big Baby 2 for full-on and outdoor stuff.

Short story made long, lol.
 
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SO, I like the One10 a lot, and I use it a lot, by itself. At low volumes I add some "drastic" bass, and at higher volumes maybe some bass, and/or treble boot and/or midcut. I am very satisfied with it but would recommend 2 of them (or a Two10) for rocking out hard. I plan to order a Super Midget which I think it will suit best as a one-cab super-portable solution for loudish-level bands in bigger rooms and will continue to use the Four10 or Big Baby 2 for full-on and outdoor stuff.

And I think you'll find the Super Midget and One10 to be a surprisingly great combination.
 
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Thanks to all that chimed in!

Here was my midday fun today:

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I'm liking two amps with the BB2. The 3-tube preamp in the Reiner Studio 1200 is huge and fat with electric bass. The ultra clean Euphonic Audio Micro 550 is superb with my Taylor AB-1 acoustic bass guitar. The BB2 shows every nuance of tone. It's said that the Super Midget has the same tone as the BB2 so I'm up for swapping for the smaller form factor. My gig requirements have recently changed and the SM looks about right for doubling at reasonable volume gigs.
 
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Sooooo...I've read some references to folks that have the BF 10 cabs saying they need to use drastic EQ. I'm curious as to what "drastic EQ" means?

Inquiring minds...

My One10 stack doesn't need drastic eq, but I bump bass more than with my other cabs. It has plenty of upper end for my bass taste, but if I play along with tunes piped through the aux on my D800, it obviously doesn't do justice to recorded triangle, snare drum and piccolo :)
 
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Well, I did search "heat" but way too general to get me there. So with this Texas heat, 100+ degree days for over a week. Due to interior home improvements, I've moved my Gen 2 Big Twin T, Ampeg 212AV/112AV and GB NeoX 112T cabs into my garage from inside my house a couple months ago. I have them elevated and covered with sheets/blankets plus their cab covers to keep out bugs, spider webs etc.

Any chance this constant heat in my garage may damage or start to damage the vinyl coverings of any of my cabs? No gigs in last 2-3 months that required I use these cabs. Mostly low volume gigs where my TC-E BG250 or a single 112 cab be used. Both these 112 cabs are ok but I do bring them inside to rehearse or again use for gigs. So Ive not uncovered any lof my other cabs, since they are snugged in well.

Should I uncover them just to be sure this crazy TX heat isn't causing them exterior and surely not interior damage? No real room in house yet to bring em back in, re-organizing my third bedroom where I usually store my cabs. But if I had to, sorry wifey, new sofa's going out on front porch...yeah right. Guess only way to know is to uncover them to check. If anyone has had such an issue, thanks for a reply here. peace, e.
 
Me too. Though I ordered another one10 I was thinking about ordering SM instead but I was not sure how good their pairing would be.

Well, I have committed... paid the deposit on a Super Midget w/ black steel grill.

I wonder what the optimal way to combine it with BB2 would be....

1) Should it lie on its side on top of BB2? (its height is equal to BB2 width which makes me think it is planned that way). Not sure how that affects alignment of horns and drivers and any effects thereof.

2) Use both horns, or use only one horn, while dialing the other off? If so, which horn to use, the BB2 with wave guide (but which would likely be on bottom) on SM's without the wave guide (but likely on top and nearer to ear level?