Official Barefaced Bass Cab Club

[monsterthompson]

So, who's using tubes with their Barefaced cabs? Tell me 'bout it...

I was running a Mesa Buster with my SC. So good. I wish I could've justified keeping that head. It was just too heavy to take to my jams, and it really wanted to play loud. I'm sure your rig sounds amazing. I was meditating on a Prodigy to top my BB2.

 

[Pbassmanca]

Ok, I found a deal on a Mesa Strategy Eight:88. It'll be here tomorrow. I've spent a bunch of time and money lightening my schlep and now I seem to be going backwards...

-I went back to an analog board(from a Fractal FX8)
-Probably going to relegate my beloved D800+ to backup/acoustic show status.
-Started carrying 3 basses to each gig(up from two. They are headless, so they don't take up much space)
-Went from a solid-state, digital guitar combo back to my guitar tube combo(it just sounds WAY better)

I did get a cart, though. That helps a bunch...

The only thing that hasn't/won't change is my use of my Barefaced BTII! Since both the Strategy and the D800+ will do 2 ohms, I'm half tempted to get another BTII, but I really can't think of any time I'd hafta have that. I really feel like the single BTII will even handle most of the outdoor/festival stuff we're doing. I am planning on adding a BB2 for the acoustic shows(even the BTII is way overkill for that gig...).

So, who's using tubes with their Barefaced cabs? Tell me 'bout it...

The Strategy is a serious amplifier man. Congrats.

 

[Pbassmanca]

Ok, I found a deal on a Mesa Strategy Eight:88. It'll be here tomorrow. I've spent a bunch of time and money lightening my schlep and now I seem to be going backwards...

-I went back to an analog board(from a Fractal FX8)
-Probably going to relegate my beloved D800+ to backup/acoustic show status.
-Started carrying 3 basses to each gig(up from two. They are headless, so they don't take up much space)
-Went from a solid-state, digital guitar combo back to my guitar tube combo(it just sounds WAY better)

I did get a cart, though. That helps a bunch...

The only thing that hasn't/won't change is my use of my Barefaced BTII! Since both the Strategy and the D800+ will do 2 ohms, I'm half tempted to get another BTII, but I really can't think of any time I'd hafta have that. I really feel like the single BTII will even handle most of the outdoor/festival stuff we're doing. I am planning on adding a BB2 for the acoustic shows(even the BTII is way overkill for that gig...).

So, who's using tubes with their Barefaced cabs? Tell me 'bout it...

Imagine the tonal glory of the full power of a Mesa Strategy into TWO Barefaced Big Twin 2's..........Even God himself would have to shout to be heard........

 

[pbass6811]

I was running a Mesa Buster with my SC. So good. I wish I could've justified keeping that head. It was just too heavy to take to my jams, and it really wanted to play loud. I'm sure your rig sounds amazing. I was meditating on a Prodigy to top my BB2.

Man, a Prodigy on a BB2? That would probably be enough to bring grown men to tears of joy at the sight! I really think you should just do eet...

Imagine the tonal glory of the full power of a Mesa Strategy into TWO Barefaced Big Twin 2's..........Even God himself would have to shout to be heard........

I am, THAT'S the problem, LOL!

 

[Ian Trusheim]

Yo Ian! I've been rocking a Gen 2 Compact for a few years now. I'll be playing tomorrow night with our buddy KJ at Hemingways in Stevensville if you want to check out how it sounds.

Thanks brother, won't be able to make it as I'll be playing for the drunks at Seacrets in Ocean City, Md

 

[Lowendtech]

So, who's using tubes with their Barefaced cabs? Tell me 'bout it...

I'm currently have a Fender Bassman 100T plugged into a Two10.
I can confidently say, "Yep, I'd do that again".

 

[Tim1]

Tubes???? I use my Four 10 with Ampeg V4B, Orange AD200, Trace Elliott V4 and Fender Super Bassman 300. Sounds wonderful with all of them as it should since it was designed to emulate that old tube sound.

 

[Mosfed]

I've been considering upgrading my amp from a GK MB200 to an MB500 or MB Fusion 500 in hopes of picking up another One10 someday. Would I be in danger of pushing too much power into the single One10 with one of those amps?

I use my 110 often with my Genz Shuttle 6.2 which is 600w into 4ohms. Never had an issue but I also know how not to push it too too hard.

 

[bassdrop]

Thanks brother, won't be able to make it as I'll be playing for the drunks at Seacrets in Ocean City, Md

Also rocking on Sunday with the country/rock band. PM me on FB.

 

[pbass6811]

All I can say right now is...OMG! Not sure what happened the last time(full disclosure-this is my 2nd Strategy), but I swear I just heard the sound in my head! Got a gig tomorrow night, so that'll be the acid test, but all signs point to a winner. Fingers crossed...

 

[Britbonic]

I've been considering upgrading my amp from a GK MB200 to an MB500 or MB Fusion 500 in hopes of picking up another One10 someday. Would I be in danger of pushing too much power into the single One10 with one of those amps?

I use mine One 10 with my MBF 800 and it works and sounds great. That said, I only use it for relatively low volume gigs - restaurants, etc - so have never really pushed it. And that's exactly what I bought it for so it works great in those situations. I did pair it once with a Bergantino AE112 for a larger/louder bar gig and it worked very well. BTW, I'd love to get another MB200 - never should have sold the one I had - so if you decide to sell it hit me up.

 

[Dp1363]

Ok, I found a deal on a Mesa Strategy Eight:88. It'll be here tomorrow. I've spent a bunch of time and money lightening my schlep and now I seem to be going backwards...

-I went back to an analog board(from a Fractal FX8)
-Probably going to relegate my beloved D800+ to backup/acoustic show status.
-Started carrying 3 basses to each gig(up from two. They are headless, so they don't take up much space)
-Went from a solid-state, digital guitar combo back to my guitar tube combo(it just sounds WAY better)

I did get a cart, though. That helps a bunch...

The only thing that hasn't/won't change is my use of my Barefaced BTII! Since both the Strategy and the D800+ will do 2 ohms, I'm half tempted to get another BTII, but I really can't think of any time I'd hafta have that. I really feel like the single BTII will even handle most of the outdoor/festival stuff we're doing. I am planning on adding a BB2 for the acoustic shows(even the BTII is way overkill for that gig...).

So, who's using tubes with their Barefaced cabs? Tell me 'bout it...

Right here. Two BB2's with a V4B.

 

[BigEarl]

I've read all of Alex's articles on the differences between the Barefaced 10" and 12" drivers. Since it appears there are no other Austinites (or Texans for that matter) with an SM, SC, BBII, BT or ST that I can hear/try against my One10's, I guess I'll just open this question up to everyone: if you have experience with both BF drivers what are your impressions (Hint: I'm thinking about buying an SC)

 

[monsterthompson]

I've read all of Alex's articles on the differences between the Barefaced 10" and 12" drivers. Since it appears there are no other Austinites (or Texans for that matter) with an SM, SC, BBII, BT or ST that I can hear/try against my One10's, I guess I'll just open this question up to everyone: if you have experience with both BF drivers what are your impressions (Hint: I'm thinking about buying an SC)

What are you trying to achieve and what are your target sounds relative to what you currently have?

If you're doing anything rock related, the 10" drivers generally sound better. Not that the SC didn't sound good and get compliments from my jam friends. I really liked the SC with my Mesa Buster (sold it due to weight issues). If you're going DI>FOH at shows, the SC is going to probably going to give you a better representation of what is going to the audience.

I was able to use a Two10 at 4 ohms in the same setting as a SC.

 

[blastoff]

I've read all of Alex's articles on the differences between the Barefaced 10" and 12" drivers. Since it appears there are no other Austinites (or Texans for that matter) with an SM, SC, BBII, BT or ST that I can hear/try against my One10's, I guess I'll just open this question up to everyone: if you have experience with both BF drivers what are your impressions (Hint: I'm thinking about buying an SC)

Big Earl. I own both a one10 and a SC. just as i feared, i like them both.
first off, the SC seems about twice as loud probably because it has more low end as well as high end. its very snarly when pushed.
in comparison the One10 is a bit more growly.
snarly vs growly. there you have it!
-using th350 and p-bass/flatties

 

[BigEarl]

Big Earl. I own both a one10 and a SC. just as i feared, i like them both.
first off, the SC seems about twice as loud probably because it has more low end as well as high end. its very snarly when pushed.
in comparison the One10 is a bit more growly.
snarly vs growly. there you have it!
-using th350 and p-bass/flatties

I have every intention on keeping my two One10's and taking them to my grave, but I have started to warm up to the idea of a more "hi fi" sound with less growl, bite or whatever, to a cleaner, groovier more bottom heavy sound ...or in other words, what the One10 can't do. I see both drivers as tools in a tool box, like having a P, a J and an Ernie Ball just for variety (although in my case, I'll take a stable of MIA P's all day!)

Thanks, all, if anybody wants to throw down into this discussion, I'm all ears!

 

[Plutonium244]

I have every intention on keeping my two One10's and taking them to my grave, but I have started to warm up to the idea of a more "hi fi" sound with less growl, bite or whatever, to a cleaner, groovier more bottom heavy sound ...or in other words, what the One10 can't do. I see both drivers as tools in a tool box, like having a P, a J and an Ernie Ball just for variety (although in my case, I'll take a stable of MIA P's all day!)

Thanks, all, if anybody wants to throw down into this discussion, I'm all ears!

Just my 2 cents, but I'd consider the BB2 or SM, or one of each, to experience the "alternative". Both those cabs have the horn, but as I say many times, its a crossover frequency horn control--- meaning you can have the horn handle highs, or have the 12" driver handle those. This, the BB2 and SM can be either 1) themselves, with horn crossover you can control; or 2) they can be like the Super Compact or Super Twin where all the freq's go to the 12" driver (if you dial that with the crossover control). So, I's suggest experiencing what the brighter tone has to offer; but if you don't like it so much, it can totally do the SC sound. I do have both Barefaced 10's and 12's (One10, Four10), and 12's (BB2, SM).

 

[N. Kentucky Bass]

Just my 2 cents, but I'd consider the BB2 or SM, or one of each, to experience the "alternative". Both those cabs have the horn, but as I say many times, its a crossover frequency horn control--- meaning you can have the horn handle highs, or have the 12" driver handle those. This, the BB2 and SM can be either 1) themselves, with horn crossover you can control; or 2) they can be like the Super Compact or Super Twin where all the freq's go to the 12" driver (if you dial that with the crossover control). So, I's suggest experiencing what the brighter tone has to offer; but if you don't like it so much, it can totally do the SC sound. I do have both Barefaced 10's and 12's (One10, Four10), and 12's (BB2, SM).

+1. I've never had a more responsive "tweeter knob" in any of the many previously owned cabs - even Greenboy Fearless / fearFul cabs. The crossover control on my SM (and the previously owned BB2s) makes the cab behave like a musical instrument. You have to hear it to understand what I'm saying. Very useful!

 

[BigEarl]

Just my 2 cents, but I'd consider the BB2 or SM, or one of each, to experience the "alternative". Both those cabs have the horn, but as I say many times, its a crossover frequency horn control--- meaning you can have the horn handle highs, or have the 12" driver handle those. This, the BB2 and SM can be either 1) themselves, with horn crossover you can control; or 2) they can be like the Super Compact or Super Twin where all the freq's go to the 12" driver (if you dial that with the crossover control). So, I's suggest experiencing what the brighter tone has to offer; but if you don't like it so much, it can totally do the SC sound. I do have both Barefaced 10's and 12's (One10, Four10), and 12's (BB2, SM).

I'm wondering if the 30hz bottom on the BBII makes a significant difference with the feel on stage of the cab versus the 37hz bottom on the SM, SC and BT models. I've always been pretty militant about horns and tweeter (as in don't need or want 'em) in every cab I've ever owned, including boutiques like Epifani, Acme and Accugroove those tweeters were turned off and remained off during my ownership.

I really have no desire or intention to use a horn/tweeter moving forward, but have read Plutonium's take on the musical nature of BF tweeter/crossover (among others who echo his sentiments) and it gets me to woderin' if I'm missing something important...

 

[monsterthompson]

I'm wondering if the 30hz bottom on the BBII makes a significant difference with the feel on stage of the cab versus the 37hz bottom on the SM, SC and BT models. I've always been pretty militant about horns and tweeter (as in don't need or want 'em) in every cab I've ever owned, including boutiques like Epifani, Acme and Accugroove those tweeters were turned off and remained off during my ownership.

I really have no desire or intention to use a horn/tweeter moving forward, but have read Plutonium's take on the musical nature of BF tweeter/crossover (among others who echo his sentiments) and it gets me to woderin' if I'm missing something important...

If you like a slightly deeper low end, with a dab more cushion, then the BB2 will deliver it. If you want it to be a bit tighter, the SC is plenty.

The SC is a tad easier to carry around. There is added depth to the BB2 size and it is just a tad bigger than I'd like. It's not that heavy, and it's perfectly manageable (for those of you without significant physical handicaps/disabilities). The SC is an easier one-hand carry.

Edit:
The BB2 crossover is pretty nice. It's not exactly smooth enough that I'd use it all the way up with heavy distortion, but it really is useable.