No. The "retro" name was dropped by Barefaced, shortly after they came out. It was decided that it limited people's expectations. Now, you'll just see "One10" or "Two10" or some similar variation.
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Official Barefaced Bass Cab Club
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No. The "retro" name was dropped by Barefaced, shortly after they came out. It was decided that it limited people's expectations. Now, you'll just see "One10" or "Two10" or some similar variation.
Ok my mistake. I didn't realize it was the 10 vs 12 driver and cabinets. I thought they were two options of drivers in the tens series.
Ah. That explains the confusion. The 10" loaded cabs are an entirely different design from the 12" loaded cabs. There is no overlap in driver/cab options.
Yes I know that but the website page for the 10" cab spends a lot of time comparing the drivers while the 12" there is no reference. Which led me to believe there were two options for the 10" cabs
I am in a good position to comment on this, having owned a pair of 210AVs concurrently with a pair of One 10s, having previously owned an NV115 and I still do own an NV215.
Tom Bowlus actually reviewed the Two 10 in Bass Gear Magazine, directly compared the Two 10 with a 210AV and essentially said that that the Two 10 was like the 210AV only it did everything much, much more.
I can only say that I swore that my pair of 210AVs were keepers, and I do still rate them very highly. The thing is, that a Two 10 (or in my case a pair of One 10s) is so much more that I just stopped using the 210avs and flipped them on. To be honest, I don't miss them and I find that a single One 10 will do the job of a single 210av. Plus, the One 10 goes lower, is lighter and seems to be less directional. Two 10 doubly so. In comparison with the NV115, and I was not able to directly AB them so this is based on memory, the Barefaced is more efficient and somewhat warmer - also very much lighter.
Very much my opinion and hardly empirical, so do try to compare them for yourself.
The 12s are the BF standard speaker and were the only speaker for awhile. The 10s were developed later so they have the comparison so you can see how they differ from the 12s.
Thus far, all the 10" drivered cabs are tweeterless, but 3 of the 5 models of the 12" drivered cabs have HF drivers.
Looks like you got the confusion sorted out about the 10's, but since I'd already located this (quoted post below), I will post it anyway, re: 10's vs 12's... just my 2 cents from a few pages back... but there are many posts if you skim back that address it... it's been covered a lot, but every 10 pages or so someone new comes along and asks for a comparison of 10's and 12's sound so it gets repeated.
I believe they use two versions of their 10" driver. One version has a coax high mid driver, the other doesn't. The One10 has one of the coax drivers. The Two10 has one of each. The 410 and 610 each have just one coax driver and the rest of the drivers have none. I'm fairly certain this is accurate. @alexclaber Did I say it correctly?
This is interesting as I have never heard it before. I have always assumed that the Four and Six 10s had a simple filter cutting the highs on one vertical side, with the other vertical pair remaining full range.
This has been, and is, my assumption also-- that it has a low pass filter of some kind on one vertical set of speakers-- but you know what they say about assumptions.
BFB website: "By only letting higher mids and treble come from one column of speakers we get much better dispersion".
I don't know that the speaker itself is different; I believe they are all the Barefaced proprietary 10CR driver, just constrained frequency range going to one, and full range to the other.
This is the way I have always understood it to be.
Perhaps. But it seems like the ones doing the treble have the concentric midrange driver, while the other do not. I suspect the drivers are identical but only one has the midrange dome and doesn't. I would look for the review from Tom Bowlus on the Two10, he should answer the question. @tombowlus
Thanks! I'm quite a fan of all three. I've worked hard to de-Jaco the Squier VM Jazz (as much as I love the guy)
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In the pocket n' thumpy. So woody, so greasy...
The One 10 I had did not have a concentric mid driver. You can look at the Four 10 and see all the drivers have the same dust caps with no concentric drivers. So I'm in the 'all drivers are the same and the highs are filtered out' camp.
