Official Barefaced Bass Cab Club

[monsterthompson]

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Yeah.

 

[smeet]

I have recently got that setup, tried it at home although I haven't gigged with it yet. I know from experience BF cabs can be taken loud but most of my gigs don't require me to be really loud. What I like is the clean density of sound that these cabs produce even at moderate or low volume levels. So whilst those two cabs will give me a lot of volume and bottom end for my reggae gigs, they give me a really hifi sound for the stuff I do with primarily acoustic gigs or jazz funk. I've just last week changed the QSC for a Crown XLS1502 , only due to a desire to reduce the weight of my rack to make it easier to carry on gigs.
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Yes, although I do play loudly sometimes, I've never needed to get close to the maximum volume of my BTII. I'll try them together, I hope the added speaker area will nicely fill more space with clean sound, even without the need to get louder. I assume that I'll use the BB by itself a lot too.

I auditioned with a hard rock band the other day with BTII and my Reiner VHF700. The Reiner generates a lot of midrange richness while still sounding "clean", which the BTII reproduced so nicely that even though their rhythm guitarist was not there, IMHO he wasn't missed when the lead guitarist dropped out. And I didn't have to get too loud or too bright to achieve that. Happy and impressed i am.

 

[tombowlus]

That DarkGlass though!

Darkglass and Barefaced play very nicely together, IME/IMHO.

 

[Tim1]

Random thought: I know everything Barefaced does is based on their two proprietary drivers, which have different design goals and attributes. I wonder if at any point Alex will design a new driver for a cabinet-- say, a 10" product array with a horn. This would of course require an entirely new kind of 10 for Barefaced-- one voiced more like their 12's.

As I said, random thought. Carry on.

You might be on to something here - a speaker that blends the attributes of both the BF 10s and 12s.
Something along the lines of:
One 11
Two 11
Four 11
Six 11
Eight 11

 

[alexclaber]

...say, a 10" product array with a horn. This would of course require an entirely new kind of 10 for Barefaced-- one voiced more like their 12's.

I can't really see the point of that from an engineering/performance/sonics perspective. If we want a driver with maximum sonic accuracy and high output the 12XN is the best way to do it. It would have been a 10" driver if that did it better, or an 8" or a 15".

 

[el murdoque]

As much as I love my single One10, I've been considering making the jump to a different BF cab that has the potential for more volume. My amp is a GK MB200, and I don't need a tweeter. So far, I'm weighing the following options.

Super Compact
Two10
A second One10

Any advice? I'd ideally like to have an all-in-one solution instead of a modular rig, and the SC seems to be the most attractive based on size and weight. I'm not opposed to buying a more powerful amp later, but for now, I'd like to stick with what I have.

I've been in the same spot. Having a one10 was a great thing, but It felt like owning a toy that has such a ridiculous amount of power that it can *almost* compete with real tools.
The sound is great at low to mid volume, but when I tried to get a boomy sound with boosted lows on a fivestring to anything approaching gig volume, the farting would start. This is still, IMHO, one of the best choices to build a mini rig
that weighs nothing, sounds much bigger and is easy to transport. Plus it is a very nice thing for home practice. The one10 just sounds huge at bedroom volume.

I flipped my one10 for a Super Compact.
The reasoning behind this was that I did want that ridiculous weight/size/volume ratio for my bigger gigs.
No sense in having a featherweight to play the occasional coffehouse gig when the big stuff gets lugged around thrice as much for the real gigs.
What I can say about the swap is that I sold a tiny cab and got one that is tiny for what it can do, but not that tiny.
In terms of weight there was not too much gain, it's still something you can comfortably carry up the stairs into the second floor with your left hand. In terms of volume, it's a different league entirely. This one competes with top shelf 212 cabs and most of the 410 cabs, too.

....That's why I ordered a SM a while back which should arrive any day now (currently in trasit).

 

[baxter_x]

Do you guys know if my pair of great SWR Goliath III could be replaced by any Barefaced products? I'm asking as I'd like to lighten and optimize a bit my rig.
What I love about my cabs is how massive, clear and clean they are.

 

[friskinator]

I've been in the same spot. Having a one10 was a great thing, but It felt like owning a toy that has such a ridiculous amount of power that it can *almost* compete with real tools.
The sound is great at low to mid volume, but when I tried to get a boomy sound with boosted lows on a fivestring to anything approaching gig volume, the farting would start. This is still, IMHO, one of the best choices to build a mini rig
that weighs nothing, sounds much bigger and is easy to transport. Plus it is a very nice thing for home practice. The one10 just sounds huge at bedroom volume.

I flipped my one10 for a Super Compact.
The reasoning behind this was that I did want that ridiculous weight/size/volume ratio for my bigger gigs.
No sense in having a featherweight to play the occasional coffehouse gig when the big stuff gets lugged around thrice as much for the real gigs.
What I can say about the swap is that I sold a tiny cab and got one that is tiny for what it can do, but not that tiny.
In terms of weight there was not too much gain, it's still something you can comfortably carry up the stairs into the second floor with your left hand. In terms of volume, it's a different league entirely. This one competes with top shelf 212 cabs and most of the 410 cabs, too.

....That's why I ordered a SM a while back which should arrive any day now (currently in trasit).

What's funny is that the One10 has never felt like a toy to me! I've never walked away from a gig or rehearsal wishing I'd had more, but I know I'll eventually be confronted with a situation where that will happen. I usually gig at fairly low volumes with a pop/rock 4 piece, but if I end up doing something louder in the future, it could be a problem.

 

[jakka1]

Do you guys know if my pair of great SWR Goliath III could be replaced by any Barefaced products? I'm asking as I'd like to lighten and optimize a bit my rig.
What I love about my cabs is how massive, clear and clean they are.

Probably depends on if you are tied to the SWR sound? I replaced my Goliath III and Big Ben stack with a Big Twin II. Much lighter, and what I once thought was clear clean tone coming from the SWRs wasn't so clear anymore compared to the BTII plus I got much lighter.

 

[jassthebass]

I can't really see the point of that from an engineering/performance/sonics perspective. If we want a driver with maximum sonic accuracy and high output the 12XN is the best way to do it. It would have been a 10" driver if that did it better, or an 8" or a 15".

Hi Alex

How about a normal 2x10" with an added switchable horn to get vintage plus more definition should it be required?

I apologise if that is what you implied previously

 

[Stu_Bass]

Hi Alex

How about a normal 2x10" with an added switchable horn to get vintage plus more definition should it be required?

I apologise if that is what you implied previously

I asked him about such a thing but he feels the 10 is too colored to achieve a full range sound.

 

[baxter_x]

Probably depends on if you are tied to the SWR sound? I replaced my Goliath III and Big Ben stack with a Big Twin II. Much lighter, and what I once thought was clear clean tone coming from the SWRs wasn't so clear anymore compared to the BTII plus I got much lighter.

I'm not really tied to it as I also love the Ampeg 610 (which is close to the Goliath I admit) or the Ampeg 810. I like pretty much any cab that can project the sound it produces. We also pay big festivals. Could a single BTII cut through in such venues?

 

[chris_b]

We also pay big festivals. Could a single BTII cut through in such venues?

I think it could, but don't these gigs usually have FOH and fold back as standard? IME a One10 could work for me on one of those stages.

The SPL of the BT2 is 133dB which is roughly where an 810 would be at full chat. Alex is always the best person to answer these questions.

 

[baxter_x]

I think it could, but don't these gigs usually have FOH and fold back as standard?

Yes it does, but I want to hear myself through my rig. Nothing else.

Alex is always the best person to answer these questions.

I sent him a mail a couple of hours ago

 

[el murdoque]

What's funny is that the One10 has never felt like a toy to me! I've never walked away from a gig or rehearsal wishing I'd had more, but I know I'll eventually be confronted with a situation where that will happen. I usually gig at fairly low volumes with a pop/rock 4 piece, but if I end up doing something louder in the future, it could be a problem.

Well the thing in my particular case is that I play either with a band ranging from hard rock to metal with unreasonably loud guitars or I play reggae with a 5 or 6 string bass and the bass knobs turned up quite far.

When you use a passive 4 string bass and have reasonable EQ settings, the one10 is incredible.

But as soon as you incorporate a low B and EQ your lowend to sound fatter, the little box runs out of air to push when you turn up the volume.

 

[smeet]

Hey, how do/did you all pay Barefaced using Paypal? I just got an invoice but the (paymentsense) link only gives credit card as an option. Can I simply pay the amount listed using the same paypal address I used to pay the deposit? I sent an email question to them, but with the time difference it may be a day before I hear back.

 

[mmbongo]

Hey, how do/did you all pay Barefaced using Paypal? I just got an invoice but the (paymentsense) link only gives credit card as an option. Can I simply pay the amount listed using the same paypal address I used to pay the deposit? I sent an email question to them, but with the time difference it may be a day before I hear back.

Unless something has changed, the bottom of your invoice should have two totals and look like this:

Total (Bank Transfer) $xxx
Total (Paypal) $xxxx

And you just Paypal that amount to their Paypal address.

 

[mrwood4]

Unless something has changed, the bottom of your invoice should have two totals and look like this:

Total (Bank Transfer) $xxx
Total (Paypal) $xxxx

And you just Paypal that amount to their Paypal address.

same for me.

 

[Stumbo]

Well the thing in my particular case is that I play either with a band ranging from hard rock to metal with unreasonably loud guitars or I play reggae with a 5 or 6 string bass and the bass knobs turned up quite far.

When you use a passive 4 string bass and have reasonable EQ settings, the one10 is incredible.

But as soon as you incorporate a low B and EQ your lowend to sound fatter, the little box runs out of air to push when you turn up the volume.

HPF, my friend, HPF.

 

[smeet]

Unless something has changed, the bottom of your invoice should have two totals and look like this:

Total (Bank Transfer) $xxx
Total (Paypal) $xxxx

And you just Paypal that amount to their Paypal address.

Hmmm. Mine just has a single Total listed.