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One thing to remember is that on the BB2 and Big Twin the tweeter control affects the crossover point between the woofer and tweeter, not the output level of the tweeter. So you're not exactly turning the tweeter off at the extreme "low" end of it's rotation. You're lowering the crossover point to about 4KHz, which actually sends the most signal to the tweeter.

When you turn it all the way clockwise to "max" it, you've raised the crossover point to about 10KHz, which sends only the highest frequencies to the tweeter. At that setting, most of the signal goes to the woofer which rolls off at about 4KHz and gives you a warmer, more "classic" or "vintage" tone.

The effect is that knob can seem to work "backwards" until you kind of internalize that. I had to keep reminding myself what's going on for a while as well.

That being said, I do find that the sound I get with dirt pedals can be harsh when the knob is set to its minimum (i.e. the lowest crossover point, which means the tweeter reproduces more of the signal, from about 4KHz and up). I don't use pedals often, but I tend to raise the crossover point when I do (i.e. turn the knob clockwise) and find that a dirtier tone sounds better that way. YMMV, of course, but that's one way to approach things before you start futzing with pedals settings that you probably worked hard to get right.

Actually, these days, I've been keeping the tweeter control close to maxed out - just liking the tone that way.
Sorry, but I have a Super Midget, not a BB2 or Big Twin.
When I set the tweeter to minimum (darker sounding) I get a warmer/smoother "vintage" tone, plus dirt pedals seem to sound better.
When I set the tweeter to maximum (brighter sounding), I get a more modern "hi-fi" tone but dirt pedals tend to sound a little bit fizzy.
You seem to say the exact opposite in your post. Am I missing something?

You gotta have a pass filter or cab sim, if you use dist/od/fuzz. Treat it like going DI into a PA/FOH/DAW.
Honestly, I don't know what you're talking about. Sorry.
I use my P bass into my pedalboard, into my amp (BB800). I don't need a cab sim, I'm using a real cab. I can't understand, sorry.

The reference point for tweeter settings seems to be completely different from one person to another and it's VERY confusing.
I'm tempted to turn the tweeter to minimum and tweak my tone starting from there.
 
Sorry, but I have a Super Midget, not a BB2 or Big Twin.
When I set the tweeter to minimum (darker sounding) I get a warmer/smoother "vintage" tone, plus dirt pedals seem to sound better.
When I set the tweeter to maximum (brighter sounding), I get a more modern "hi-fi" tone but dirt pedals tend to sound a little bit fizzy.
You seem to say the exact opposite in your post. Am I missing something?


Honestly, I don't know what you're talking about. Sorry.
I use my P bass into my pedalboard, into my amp (BB800). I don't need a cab sim, I'm using a real cab. I can't understand, sorry.

The reference point for tweeter settings seems to be completely different from one person to another and it's VERY confusing.
I'm tempted to turn the tweeter to minimum and tweak my tone starting from there.

I don't know why everyone is making this so confusing. Turning the HF control to max (fully open, full anti-clockwise) puts the most signal through the tweeter or HF driver, whilst turning it to zero (fully closed, full clockwise) puts no signal through the tweeter or HF driver. And it varies continuously in between.

And I totally disagree that you have to have a (low) pass filter if you're using overdrive, distortion or fuzz - it just comes down to personal preference. I like a lot of fuzz pedals with the HF control at max - and plenty of overdrive and distortion pedals have enough treble adjustment that you can leave the HF control up high too.
 
I don't know why everyone is making this so confusing. Turning the HF control to max (fully open, full anti-clockwise) puts the most signal through the tweeter or HF driver, whilst turning it to zero (fully closed, full clockwise) puts no signal through the tweeter or HF driver. And it varies continuously in between.

And I totally disagree that you have to have a (low) pass filter if you're using overdrive, distortion or fuzz - it just comes down to personal preference. I like a lot of fuzz pedals with the HF control at max - and plenty of overdrive and distortion pedals have enough treble adjustment that you can leave the HF control up high too.
I'm not sure if everyone is making this confusing, maybe I'm the one who couldn't understand a thing. :D
Anyway, I'll adjust the tweeter to my taste and make sure everything sounds good when dirt pedals are engaged. I'll use my ears and nothing else, that's the only way to do that I guess. I don't have a LPF in my pedalboard and never needed one, honestly.
Thanks for the infos.
 
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Sorry if there's confusion coming out of the suggestions. I mean, ultimately it's a dial. Turn it all the way to one end, play, and then turn it a little and play again. Stop when you like what you hear.

My personal experience has been that heavy distortion use with the "tweeter" all the way "on" is unpleasant and not useable for sounds I'm trying to create. I haven't played every pedal, so what do I know? A cab sim or pass filter is one way to tame the highs when the distortion is engaged. A simpler route is to just turn the dial down on the cab.

Not knowing the other effects in the pedalboard chain, a P and BB800 could work well at probably any point in the dial's range (I've owned a BB800 and have a P, and I played them together through my BB2).
 
Sorry, but I have a Super Midget, not a BB2 or Big Twin.
When I set the tweeter to minimum (darker sounding) I get a warmer/smoother "vintage" tone, plus dirt pedals seem to sound better.
When I set the tweeter to maximum (brighter sounding), I get a more modern "hi-fi" tone but dirt pedals tend to sound a little bit fizzy.
You seem to say the exact opposite in your post. Am I missing something?


Honestly, I don't know what you're talking about. Sorry.
I use my P bass into my pedalboard, into my amp (BB800). I don't need a cab sim, I'm using a real cab. I can't understand, sorry.

The reference point for tweeter settings seems to be completely different from one person to another and it's VERY confusing.
I'm tempted to turn the tweeter to minimum and tweak my tone starting from there.
Doh! My bad, sorry for muddying things up. :facepalm:
 
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Doh! My bad, sorry for muddying things up. :facepalm:

IMO I do not think you did. Your comment that

"I do find that the sound I get with dirt pedals can be harsh when the knob is set to its minimum (i.e. the lowest crossover point, which means the tweeter reproduces more of the signal, from about 4KHz and up). I don't use pedals often, but I tend to raise the crossover point when I do (i.e. turn the knob clockwise) and find that a dirtier tone sounds better that way"

is consistent with what CunniMingus said:

"When I set the tweeter to minimum (darker sounding) I get a warmer/smoother "vintage" tone, plus dirt pedals seem to sound better. When I set the tweeter to maximum (brighter sounding), I get a more modern "hi-fi" tone but dirt pedals tend to sound a little bit fizzy."

I think CunniMingus just misinterpreted what you said (easy to do and so is no big deal). I think you both agree, despite CM thinking you didn't.
 
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I don't know why everyone is making this so confusing. Turning the HF control to max (fully open, full anti-clockwise) puts the most signal through the tweeter or HF driver, whilst turning it to zero (fully closed, full clockwise) puts no signal through the tweeter or HF driver. And it varies continuously in between.
Your brain is wired up funny. Not uncommon among real genius tyoes. You can explain it until you go blue in the face and it will still sound ass backwards for no good reason.

Anything on MAX is fully clockwise cranked everywhere else except in Barefaced Land. There starts the mud when people start describing what they are doing with the knob vs what the knob is doing.
 
Brits do drive on the WRONG side of the road afterall.. LOL o_O


Your brain is wired up funny. Not uncommon among real genius tyoes. You can explain it until you go blue in the face and it will still sound ass backwards for no good reason.

Anything on MAX is fully clockwise cranked everywhere else except in Barefaced Land. There starts the mud when people start describing what they are doing with the knob vs what the knob is doing.
 
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