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Official Barefaced Bass Cab Club

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5StringPocket said:
Wow that is different than what I would have thought. When I've modeled a ported enclosure with a driver that has a sizeable group delay (>12msec at 50 Hz), reducing box volume tends to reduce this delay which I thought was related to how coherent and defined the low end is. The tradeoff is reduced low end sensitivity but you are less likely to bottom out at high power - kind of like having stiffer springs in your suspension. Perhaps that's too simplistic.
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It isn't really the driver that has group delay, it's the system of driver and cab (and amp). Group delay is a measure of the rate of change of phase response of a system, which itself is very closely linked to the frequency response of the system. So in the case of the Super Twin you have a smaller cab which is tuned less low, so there is a sharper 'knee' in the response curve - that gives it a slightly more 'thumpy' tone, part of which is due to the change in transient response (which is closely linked to group delay). The Big Twin 2 has a larger enclosure and deeper tuning frequency so the response curve has a smoother roll-off which gives you deeper lows and quicker transient response.

5StringPocket said:
Regardless, that 12XN550 driver looks incredible. Deeper and tighter with adjustable high freq is very attractive for the Big Twin 2. If you have a tube preamp which imparts some nice harmonics and a little give to the feel and add a bump around 120 Hz can you still get a good traditional vibe with this cab?
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Yes, it's very much a case of you getting out what you put in, so if you get an old school vibe happening from your bass and amp it'll translate that very well.
 
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Szyszaczek said:
Big Twin II is rated 1600W max. What Is the bigest power I can play to be sure not to blow out the tweeter?
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If you're running clean sounds through the cab then as much as 2000-3000W will be fine. For more varied tones then 1600W is a sensible limit. We've never had anyone blow a tweeter on a Gen 3 cab and I've only heard of one person managing to trigger the HF protection circuit (which self-resets) and that was when clipping a 1500W amp with tons of of FX pedals with layers of aggressive distortion and fuzz.
 
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No contest.

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Rain...It was pouring in New York yesterday!

mikew31 said:
What do you mean? The BF is better? The fridge is better? Please elaborate.
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Same bass, amp, pedals, etc the "fridge" could not keep up. Even with EQ adjustments the ampeg got muddier and the perceived loss of low end was quite clear. The super twin never gave out and honestly sounded better and more defined as we turned up. Not to mention a quarter of the weight! Highly recommended!
 
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I have not had my BF Super Twin up above half way on my Ashdown ABM 500 EVO III, but the louder the cab gets driven, the better it seems to get, so I can understand rizzo's comments. I love the satisfaction of knowing that it can pump out more bass than an 8x10 Ampeg which I tried many years ago and thought sounded lovely at the time. The fact that it is incredibly small and light on top of that, just makes playing live a complete pleasure. I have owned mine for around 18 months and can't say enough good things about it. I just look forward to a smaller and lighter amp now, but think I might wait a little longer to see how the technology progresses.
 
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Splimcity said:
I have not had my BF Super Twin up above half way on my Ashdown ABM 500 Ev III, but the louder the cab gets driven, the better it seems to get, so I can understand rizzo's comments. I love the satisfaction of knowing that it can pump out more bass than an 8x10 Ampeg which I tried many years ago and thought sounded lovely at the time. The fact that it is incredibly small and light on top of that, just makes playing live a complete pleasure. I have owned mine for around 18 months and can't say enough good things about it. I just look forward to a smaller and lighter amp now, but think I might wait a little longer to see how the technology progresses.
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My experience with the ABM500 /BigBaby2 x2 is the same...... I tried hard to look for a lightweight alternative, but i didn't find any!
 

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