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Official Barefaced Bass Cab Club
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alexclaber
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The BB3 doesn't go any lower than the BB2 but it is more consistent in the lows at higher SPL. The BB2 went low enough already!
I finally ordered my BB3 last week. Can't wait. @alexclaber give it a hug for me when you all are building it
Well...I hooked up the second One10. Holy cow! I know how much gain you typically get by adding a driver...but this thing slays.
I haven't pushed it yet with the Baby Sumo (pictured). It's connected to my wee little 50w Ampeg P50-T...and it's freakin insanely loud. My entire house is rattling. Nothing has fallen off the walls yet like they did when I tried out my BT3. LOL!
I haven't pushed it yet with the Baby Sumo (pictured). It's connected to my wee little 50w Ampeg P50-T...and it's freakin insanely loud. My entire house is rattling. Nothing has fallen off the walls yet like they did when I tried out my BT3. LOL!
Hi all, curious if anyone else has experienced this, and maybe a friendly heads-up to other owners of 12XN cabs.
I purchased two BB3s last year, and had them stacked vertically for ~3 months. When I moved them, I noticed that the top cab's rubber feet had left circular "ring" marks in the finish of the bottom cab. There weren't any unusual circumstances (e.g. no direct sunlight, nothing else stacked on top, etc.).
I found at least a couple of other people's BB cabs with the same issue, so I think this is something inherent with the acrylic finish on the 12XN cabs.
Barefaced Big Baby 3 (BB3) 2022 | Reverb
SOLD - Barefaced Big Baby II
Fortunately I think I noticed it while it's not THAT bad, and it's definitely not ruining my high opinion of the cabs, or Barefaced overall.
But if anyone has any input for the following questions, it would be much appreciated!
- Is there a recommended way to avoid this? E.g. is it a "known" practice to place some type of non-reactive foam pad between stacked cabinets (or an amp on top)? If so, any recommendations?
- Does anyone know of any reasonably straightforward way to restore the finish? If it's as simple as buying some Granotone and carefully painting over the rings (or example), I think I could handle that.
- I also have a couple of stacked 10CR cabs, but these are a different finish (tolex). Has anyone experienced the same thing with the tolex cabs?
Many thanks!
I purchased two BB3s last year, and had them stacked vertically for ~3 months. When I moved them, I noticed that the top cab's rubber feet had left circular "ring" marks in the finish of the bottom cab. There weren't any unusual circumstances (e.g. no direct sunlight, nothing else stacked on top, etc.).
I found at least a couple of other people's BB cabs with the same issue, so I think this is something inherent with the acrylic finish on the 12XN cabs.
Barefaced Big Baby 3 (BB3) 2022 | Reverb
SOLD - Barefaced Big Baby II
Fortunately I think I noticed it while it's not THAT bad, and it's definitely not ruining my high opinion of the cabs, or Barefaced overall.
But if anyone has any input for the following questions, it would be much appreciated!
- Is there a recommended way to avoid this? E.g. is it a "known" practice to place some type of non-reactive foam pad between stacked cabinets (or an amp on top)? If so, any recommendations?
- Does anyone know of any reasonably straightforward way to restore the finish? If it's as simple as buying some Granotone and carefully painting over the rings (or example), I think I could handle that.
- I also have a couple of stacked 10CR cabs, but these are a different finish (tolex). Has anyone experienced the same thing with the tolex cabs?
Many thanks!
I have had all kinds of Amps, Cabs and even effects pedals feet stick to various other Amps, Cabs and Effects Pedals. Unfortunately, it's a by-product of using rubber products. I have never seen anything other than cosmetic damage. It's also usually in a spot that will usually be covered up (ie; covered up by the feet that caused the damage).
I'd probably file it under not significant enough to worry about but we all see things a bit differently I'd suppose.
Seems like this was discussed before and the answer was that the finish hasn't fully cured yet. But you say your cabs are a year old?
Thanks all for the input! Awesome to hear the suggestions, plus the fact that some cosmetic "foot rings" aren't necessarily a huge deal. Just something that happens sometimes.
gstaats, good thinking - I bet I could just get some adhesive rubber feet and stick them to the metal corner protectors on the cab above, so that they line up with the metal on the cab below. Elegant solution!
mmbongo, that's a good question. I had the 1st BB3 for about 3.5 months before I received the 2nd one and stacked it on top. So the cab did have at least a 3.5 month "cure time". That seems like quite a while, but I know that some finishes do take a LONG time to get 100% set. So that might be the case. I do have an old Peavey cab with a similar textured finish, and even with years of various rubber-footed things sitting on top of it, the finish has no marks - so yes, maybe it's because that Peavey had decades to fully harden before I even got it, compared to only a few months for the BB3(?).
If that is the case, maybe a friendly suggestion to Barefaced to consider adding a note to the FAQ they send with their BB3 cabs telling buyers to be careful with stacking cabs/amps for the first [x] months after purchase.
Cheers
gstaats, good thinking - I bet I could just get some adhesive rubber feet and stick them to the metal corner protectors on the cab above, so that they line up with the metal on the cab below. Elegant solution!
mmbongo, that's a good question. I had the 1st BB3 for about 3.5 months before I received the 2nd one and stacked it on top. So the cab did have at least a 3.5 month "cure time". That seems like quite a while, but I know that some finishes do take a LONG time to get 100% set. So that might be the case. I do have an old Peavey cab with a similar textured finish, and even with years of various rubber-footed things sitting on top of it, the finish has no marks - so yes, maybe it's because that Peavey had decades to fully harden before I even got it, compared to only a few months for the BB3(?).
If that is the case, maybe a friendly suggestion to Barefaced to consider adding a note to the FAQ they send with their BB3 cabs telling buyers to be careful with stacking cabs/amps for the first [x] months after purchase.
Cheers
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Many commercial speaker cab paints are water soluble PU and dry completely within a few hours: ie "cured." The likely culprit is the plasticizers used to manufacture the rubber feet, the softer the thermoplastic rubber, the more the plasticizers. While PU is super hard to dissolve, constant contact with plasticizers is enough to cause marring. Just leave 'em stacked, the marred spots will be invisible.Thanks all for the input! Awesome to hear the suggestions, plus the fact that some cosmetic "foot rings" aren't necessarily a huge deal. Just something that happens sometimes.
gstaats, good thinking - I bet I could just get some adhesive rubber feet and stick them to the metal corner protectors on the cab above, so that they line up with the metal on the cab below. Elegant solution!
mmbongo, that's a good question. I had the 1st BB3 for about 3.5 months before I received the 2nd one and stacked it on top. So the cab did have at least a 3.5 month "cure time". That seems like quite a while, but I know that some finishes do take a LONG time to get 100% set. So that might be the case. I do have an old Peavey cab with a similar textured finish, and even with years of various rubber-footed things sitting on top of it, the finish has no marks - so yes, maybe it's because that Peavey had decades to fully harden before I even got it, compared to only a few months for the BB3(?).
If that is the case, maybe a friendly suggestion to Barefaced to consider adding a note to the FAQ they send with their BB3 cabs telling buyers to be careful with stacking cabs/amps for the first [x] months after purchase.
Cheers
Very interesting! Good "lesson learned", not just for Barefaced cabs, but for gear in general - I'm going to check all of my equipment for rubber feet...
It probably wouldn't be a bad idea for me to just put some cheap cotton acoustic foam in between the cabs, or some other kind of non-reactive, non-rigid separation. Might even cut down on vibrations a bit too.
Is there part of your cab where you could try some cleaning solutions on it in case it mars it a bit, like the bottom. I have had good luck cleaning stuff like that using ethanol. It can definitely do some harm though, fyi. It's great for cleaning that gooey, sticky mess that tape can leave on certain xlr cables and stuff after a long time for example.
What did they use to affix the logo/name plate to the grill? I want to remove mine and whatever they used on the back it's painted on there thick. So I'm not sure if a solvent or brute force (potential grill damage) is the best route? Heat it up?
