Not sure which bass you have, but the Rick Turner Renaissance fretless is a good option in this category.
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Official Barefaced Bass Cab Club
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Not sure which bass you have, but the Rick Turner Renaissance fretless is a good option in this category.
I made a little experiment to compare the loudness of my Super Compact with my GR Bass NF210V:
https://www.talkbass.com/threads/gr-bass-or-barefaced-best-efficiency-a-small-experiment.1644964/
https://www.talkbass.com/threads/gr-bass-or-barefaced-best-efficiency-a-small-experiment.1644964/
Still contemplating the Super Twin vs Three 10…
I've seen a number of posts about the voicing of the 10" cabs being so easy to get a great tone while the 12" cabs take more knob turning to get there. I think my GK NeoIV 212 with its punchy response and strong even mids is similar to the Super Twin and I always scoop the upper mids a touch, bump the bass, and add some compression to fatten it up and get my sound. This sounds like the Three10 starting point without any adjustments, which wouldn't be a bad thing. I'm probably not alone in having FOH support but expecting my stage rig to keep up with a hard hitting drummer. The GK 212 rated max SPL is 129dB/1m at full power of 800 watts rms, which provides plenty of headroom for any live situation I'd encounter. The Super Twin has a bit more ultimate volume which I probably wouldn't fully use. The Three10 has a rated max SPL of 128dB/1m at full power which should still be enough to meet this requirement. A P-bass through a Mesa D800+ and Three10 sounds like it would be a sweet rig for rock, blues, and country.
I've seen a number of posts about the voicing of the 10" cabs being so easy to get a great tone while the 12" cabs take more knob turning to get there. I think my GK NeoIV 212 with its punchy response and strong even mids is similar to the Super Twin and I always scoop the upper mids a touch, bump the bass, and add some compression to fatten it up and get my sound. This sounds like the Three10 starting point without any adjustments, which wouldn't be a bad thing. I'm probably not alone in having FOH support but expecting my stage rig to keep up with a hard hitting drummer. The GK 212 rated max SPL is 129dB/1m at full power of 800 watts rms, which provides plenty of headroom for any live situation I'd encounter. The Super Twin has a bit more ultimate volume which I probably wouldn't fully use. The Three10 has a rated max SPL of 128dB/1m at full power which should still be enough to meet this requirement. A P-bass through a Mesa D800+ and Three10 sounds like it would be a sweet rig for rock, blues, and country.
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As a SuperTwin owner, I didn't find I needed to do anything extra to find my sound. If you like what you're using bass & amp wise, you will love how it adapts to a ST. It's extremely adaptable and I think that's how it should be worded. I've literally just gone TH500 or DB751 right into the cab. I typically throw a Noble in there bypassing the preamps and have LESS control and still love what I get out of the ST.
I'll grab some sound samples tonight or tomorrow. Working on getting better faux upright tone for an indie/folk project that is getting off the ground. The bass I'm using is a Carvin Icon w/mag and piezo saddles. The fingerboard is coated with their "Hard as Nails" finish. Changes the tone and feeling of the bass. The bridge has a piezo saddle per string and the preamp allows for changing individual string volume for balance. There is a knob to balance the mag pickups to the piezo. Definetly one of the most versatile basses I have for tone. I wish it had dual hb6 pickups like the bass that is my avatar... Maybe sometime I'll mod one...
alexclaber
Commercial User
I don't think that's true, I think it's that we've been selling more 12XN models for longer than the 10CR models, and bassists who don't get their tone so easily with the 12XN cabs then try a One10 and then convert over to the 10CR range (usually getting more/bigger 10CR cabs).
I basically do the same thing.
HPF/LPF => Cali76 => Noble => Amp, bypassing EQ => BB3 stack (2x)
i can certainly vouch for a Cutlass w flats and a pick through a WD800 landing in a Two10. Be sure to try the palm muting.
Two One10 cabs (one with a tweeter) are all I will ever need.
You say that now...
It's certainly a blurred line around here, but needs and wants are different.. sometimes... wait .. are they any different?
They SHOULD be. But hanging out here and having highly developed rationalization skills blurs the lines so it's too hard to tell. 
Ha! I have to have light cabs as cancer returned in my right calf two years ago and had to
have below the knee amputation. These Barefaced cabs are perfect. I'm doing very well
and am back playing tennis with a new foot I got two weeks ago.
Sorry to hear about the cancer, but congrats on the new foot! You appear to be doing quite well with it.
It definitely puts a new spin on the light gear requirement.
Thanks a lot. For me, the very light, wonderful sounding Barefaced cabs are perfect.
The picture above is actually the foot I was using before my new foot. My partner took
some photos for me to send in to get a grant for the foot. It turns out my insurer paid
for the foot so I won't need the grant should I get it in a few days. This is the video
that convinced me it was the right foot (no pun intended.) https://www.youtube.com/shorts/4n4zRw1jMe4
That's cool. Looks like the suspension incorporates a hydraulic shock coupled with a sort of leaf spring (the curved bit.) Good luck with the foot, the tennis and the gigging!
You're dual one10 setup has me jonesing to add another one10 to my current one. I don't need it yet, though, as I'm playing with just acoustic guitars and occasional keys and the one10 is perfect by itself. As soon as a project with a drummer and/or electric guitars crops up though, it's getting ordered!
You're dual one10 setup has me jonesing to add another one10 to my current one. I don't need it yet, though, as I'm playing with just acoustic guitars and occasional keys and the one10 is perfect by itself. As soon as a project with a drummer and/or electric guitars crops up though, it's getting ordered!
I can play any size gig with this rig. Two One10 cabs can do it all.
As someone who plays both, the main difference between a BG and a DB is the slower development of the sound envelope on the DB due to the string length and body size. More a "doiyngg" than a "twang" if that makes sense. We can tweak our way to a similar tone but we can't emulate the sound envelope with knobs or amps. Arguably that's why the DB will always swing more but is somewhat less funky.
alexclaber
Commercial User
I'm 99.9% certain that that difference in sound envelope on a double bass is due to everything apart from the increased string length - the flexible top, the tall bridge, the large body etc. The longer scale actually makes things sound tighter and quicker, like the difference between a short scale and long scale bass guitar (I have bass guitars from 30" to 36").
Argh! I've opened a potential can of arguable worms here and have quite properly been pulled up by the Boss for my loose language. Although after string mass and tension are included the response speed vs scale length question is probably not so simple.
I won't venture into cause and effect any further but subjectively I don't find it possible to make a BG sound satisfactorily like a DB by tweaking knobs or amps, at least to my taste. I can get just a bit closer by palm muting, which deliberately targets the shape of the sound envelope, but there's clearly a lot more to it. It's also interesting that, for me, an EUB never seems to sound satisfactorily like a DB either.
Could someone make some kind of envelope filter that added, to your bass guitar, the DB finger noise at the front and emulated the more gradual swell and faster decay? "Turn your BG into a DB - cheap at twice the price!"
