Official Barefaced Bass Cab Club

[BlueTalon]

Yikes, I wish I knew about this. Paid up front March 6th (wasn't too bruised by it thankfully). My BB3 is coming soon I hope...

Was going to suggest a down payment option once it arrives but it seems it's already in place.

I'll ask for the discount code if there's another order for me in the future.

I looked at my order information, and the code I used was £500balancetopaybeforemanufacture "discount" code on the check-out page. That allowed me to pay £700-800 up front, and £500 a couple months later. If I remember correctly, there were a few different codes available, of which this represented the biggest "discount". I looked on the website and couldn't find it, so be sure to ask Alex what options you might have if you get to the point where you're ordering again.

(And just to be absolutely clear, there is no actual discount. We still have to pay the same amount. It just allows us to delay part of the full payment until our cab is being built.)

 

[5StringPocket]

Hey gang,

I'm once again stalling over emptying the bank account a purchasing a big boy from Barefaced (yes, I'm talking about the Eight10). I had a good experience with the former '69er back in the days, though I was not completely fan of the single "hifi/middy" speaker (I believe model close to a Eminence Copperhead?).

Checking the website today, it seems that this is no longer the way Bareface do things. I guess it might be a good thing (for my liking) but how are the new 610/810 different from the previous 69er ?

Alex could confirm but I don't think the 69er had the redesigned enclosure or the custom 10CR250 drivers.
From the old barefaced bass website:
Why this rather than the celebrated '69er?
The Retro Six10 is more sensitive (six bass drivers rather than five plus the boost from the hybrid resonator enclosure), has a smoother more flattering treble response, punchier fatter mids and a bigger weightier bottom.
Barefaced Bass - Six 10

 

[GuitarJay]

After reading all these forum posts, I think I'm finally going to bite the bullet on a Super Compact or Two10s! But before I order direct, I thought I'd ask the U.S-based residents of this forum if they have any spares that they'd be willing to sell bc I don't think ordering direct will come in time for some shows that I have.

Well, if you happen to be driving through or near Toronto anytime soon, and are open to a Super Twin, let me know! It's an amazing cab, but more than I need. My One10 and Two10s easily cover all my needs. :-D

 

[tombowlus]

We have just published Dan Veall's video/written review of the new Big Twin 3. Dan has been raving about this ever since he got it in for review. I think he's won me over!

 

[DavidJamesNHBass]

@alexclaber Do I get a roadie if I order one of these? Before you answer, I know what you'll say:
Dave, you already have two current model BB3 cabs, this might not be filling a vacancy.
Or
Dave, you already have a Six10T, are you trying to enter into the building-demolition-by-volume-and-frequencies business? ✌

 

[FunkHead]

We have just published Dan Veall's video/written review of the new Big Twin 3. Dan has been raving about this ever since he got it in for review. I think he's won me over!

Nice review. I love my BT3. I have been using it with an all tube Ashdown LB-30. I spend a lot of my time at work daydreaming about playing through that rig. It keeps up just fine at fairly loud rehearsals.

 

[bottomzone]

The Cirrus Low B string sounds amazing through that BT3 and the metal grill and purple baffle are sweeeet!!!!! The clean and deep low-frequency reproduction is very impressive!!! A very balanced sound! The portion of the video showing the cabinet bracing is AWESOME!!!!! The incredible design and engineering employed by Alex and his team are verified by the weight and the sound of Barefaced cabinets!!!

 

[gtirard]

I'm sure no one here needs to see this video to be convinced that the BT3 is the best cab in the world?

 

[Appogee]

Nice review. I love my BT3. I have been using it with an all tube Ashdown LB-30. I spend a lot of my time at work daydreaming about playing through that rig. It keeps up just fine at fairly loud rehearsals.

Can I ask why you use a High Pass Filter? It seems counter-intuitive for bass. How low do you filter out?

Just curious and seeking to better understand.

Thanks.

 

[ihixulu]

Can I ask why you use a High Pass Filter? It seems counter-intuitive for bass. How low do you filter out?

Just curious and seeking to better understand.

Thanks.

High pass filters are used to eliminate the lowest frequencies that tend to create unmusical rumble in live settings. It can also tighten the bass without losing the critical information that contributes to the low end presence of the note. It's a way to sculpt the low end.

On my Crown power amps I set the HPF to 40, on my Mesa D800+ I can set it higher as it has a gentler slope.

Here's a whole thread on the matter:

High Pass Filter (HPF) and Low Pass Filter (LPF) Mega Thread

 

[dave64o]

Nice review. I love my BT3. I have been using it with an all tube Ashdown LB-30. I spend a lot of my time at work daydreaming about playing through that rig. It keeps up just fine at fairly loud rehearsals.View attachment 5422612View attachment 5422613

Love that Rick!

 

[Appogee]

High pass filters are used to eliminate the lowest frequencies that tend to create unmusical rumble in live settings. It can also tighten the bass without losing the critical information that contributes to the low end presence of the note. It's a way to sculpt the low end.

On my Crown power amps I set the HPF to 40, on my Mesa D800+ I can set it higher as it has a gentler slope.

Here's a whole thread on the matter:

High Pass Filter (HPF) and Low Pass Filter (LPF) Mega Thread

Thanks for taking the time to share that with me. I'm going to experiment with low freq filtering on my Zoom B6.

 

[FunkHead]

Can I ask why you use a High Pass Filter? It seems counter-intuitive for bass. How low do you filter out?

Just curious and seeking to better understand.

Thanks.

@ihixulu explained it perfectly. I almost always have it on. I usually set it to where I can hear it make a difference and then back it off. That way I know it's protecting my speakers. But sometimes I set it higher and it can really shape the tone.

Obviously, with the Barefaced Big Twin 3, I could probably get by without HPF. Especially with my 30 Watt Ashdown 30 Watt tube amp. Where it really shines is when I use my Orange Terror Bass 500 MK2 and a 2x10. It's night and day for keeping up with a loud drummer. It's like my speakers aren't even breaking a sweat with the HPF in the chain.

 

[BlueTalon]

Can I ask why you use a High Pass Filter? It seems counter-intuitive for bass. How low do you filter out?

Just curious and seeking to better understand.

Thanks.

Before I got my Barefaced BB3, I used Phil Jones cabs exclusively. One time I brought my C8 cab (eight 5" speakers) to an outdoor gig, powered by my Genz Benz Streamliner 900. But I hadn't yet got a pedal board to mount my HPF along with my wireless receiver, and I ended up forgetting the HPF. As I was setting up and doing the initial "does it work?" test, and dialing in the bass sound, I noticed the speakers' excursion, and it scared the crap out of me. (It was a really long travel, more than I thought those speakers were capable of, and I thought they were going to fly apart if they kept going that way.) I ended up fixing it for the gig by dialing the low bass control down significantly, until it was producing sufficient (lots) of volume with what I thought was manageable excursion. The resulting sound of the bass was thin, a lot thinner than I like, but that's what I decided to go with for the sake of the speakers. I since mounted the HPF to a tiny pedal board with my wireless receiver, so there's no chance of forgetting it again.

If I'd had the HPF on that gig, it would have allowed me to dial back the excursion to a manageable level without the thinness of having no low end. Tonally speaking, that's the point of an HPF. For indoor gigs (or outdoor gigs with wonky stages), an HPF can also allow you to manage unexpected and unpredictable low end oddities -- rumble, resonance, etc.

 

[carsonchilders]

Recommend me a barefaced?

Is there a Super Twin or a Super Twin T around Nashville that's able to be demo'd? Or Kentucky would be even better.

I feel like I've read some reviews that indicate there was practically no highs (sounds like an exaggeration)in these cabs in comparison to more HD cabs like Berganteno (which I think I played one and thought it was a little too hifi to me), but I think there have been a couple revisions since that review. But their website makes the opposite indication, especially in the more neutral voiced cabs. So which is it??

A friend brought over a Two10 (old version before ohm switch) and I compared it with my beloved Ampeg 212AV. I sounded great, but I preferred the clarity of my 212AV. A big note here, we were in a small-ish studio (18x24, sloped 16 ft ceiling) and I bet all that low end would sound insanely good outdoors or in a venue. Honestly, I want a cab that sounds closer to the 212AV but with a little more lows for a low B but maintains clarity and is an honest representation of my pedalboard.

Any thoughts?

 

[dave64o]

We can give you our opinions, but I'd also suggest contacting Alex at Barefaced. He's great at talking through your sound goals and matching a cabinet to your needs. Many in this thread entered into a discussion thinking one thing, he suggested a different cabinet (many times even a less expensive cabinet), and were blown away by their purchase.

I'm not qualified to give you an opinion myself, as I only own two Big Baby 2's and a One10. Although I can say I'm thrilled with each - and that the pair of BB2's can produce more volume with clear, full range tone than I could ever need.

 

[msb]

Blue Talon , I believe the GB Streamliners have a built in HPF.

 

[N. Kentucky Bass]

Recommend me a barefaced?

Is there a Super Twin or a Super Twin T around Nashville that's able to be demo'd? Or Kentucky would be even better.

I feel like I've read some reviews that indicate there was practically no highs (sounds like an exaggeration)in these cabs in comparison to more HD cabs like Berganteno (which I think I played one and thought it was a little too hifi to me), but I think there have been a couple revisions since that review. But their website makes the opposite indication, especially in the more neutral voiced cabs. So which is it??

A friend brought over a Two10 (old version before ohm switch) and I compared it with my beloved Ampeg 212AV. I sounded great, but I preferred the clarity of my 212AV. A big note here, we were in a small-ish studio (18x24, sloped 16 ft ceiling) and I bet all that low end would sound insanely good outdoors or in a venue. Honestly, I want a cab that sounds closer to the 212AV but with a little more lows for a low B but maintains clarity and is an honest representation of my pedalboard.

Any thoughts?

The Super Twin rolloff is at 4kHz. However, the driver's dome can put out higher frequencies (maybe to 8 or 10kHz or so?). I've done this with a generous boost of the treble knob on my Noble preamp. Very effective when you need a bit of extra brightness. It's certainly not the twinkly super highs you might want for harmonics or maybe slap. But barring those requirements, the Super Twin does a fine job of "honesty" -- especially since the bass guitar generally rolls off at 4kHz in a mix. For us low enders, highs are overrated.

 

[gstaats]

Recommend me a barefaced?

Is there a Super Twin or a Super Twin T around Nashville that's able to be demo'd? Or Kentucky would be even better.

I feel like I've read some reviews that indicate there was practically no highs (sounds like an exaggeration)in these cabs in comparison to more HD cabs like Berganteno (which I think I played one and thought it was a little too hifi to me), but I think there have been a couple revisions since that review. But their website makes the opposite indication, especially in the more neutral voiced cabs. So which is it??

A friend brought over a Two10 (old version before ohm switch) and I compared it with my beloved Ampeg 212AV. I sounded great, but I preferred the clarity of my 212AV. A big note here, we were in a small-ish studio (18x24, sloped 16 ft ceiling) and I bet all that low end would sound insanely good outdoors or in a venue. Honestly, I want a cab that sounds closer to the 212AV but with a little more lows for a low B but maintains clarity and is an honest representation of my pedalboard.

Any thoughts?

I have 2x BB3's. in Columbus, OH. Couple hours away, but, if you wanted to bring your head and give them a whirl... Not a SuperTwin or a TwinT. I like having the option to bring one or 2 cabs with me. Works pretty well.

 

[pisces_bass]

Recommend me a barefaced?

Is there a Super Twin or a Super Twin T around Nashville that's able to be demo'd? Or Kentucky would be even better.

I feel like I've read some reviews that indicate there was practically no highs (sounds like an exaggeration)in these cabs in comparison to more HD cabs like Berganteno (which I think I played one and thought it was a little too hifi to me), but I think there have been a couple revisions since that review. But their website makes the opposite indication, especially in the more neutral voiced cabs. So which is it??

A friend brought over a Two10 (old version before ohm switch) and I compared it with my beloved Ampeg 212AV. I sounded great, but I preferred the clarity of my 212AV. A big note here, we were in a small-ish studio (18x24, sloped 16 ft ceiling) and I bet all that low end would sound insanely good outdoors or in a venue. Honestly, I want a cab that sounds closer to the 212AV but with a little more lows for a low B but maintains clarity and is an honest representation of my pedalboard.

Any thoughts?

Certainly talk to Alex. But since you asked…I use a Super Twin and it fits my groove. I'm an "engine room of the band" kinda player focused on feel, tempo, and working with the drummer to hit the changes and keep people dancing. The ST let's me do that in a satisfying way. I see the Big Twin series being more useful for players wanting hi-fi, squeaky clean, extended range sound. I'm sure I could make it work with a BT but I probably wouldn't take full advantage of that design.