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Official Joyo Club Part 2: Beyond Thunderclone

Just ordered my UD. If all's well it will replace my EBS multidrive, meaning that I'll come out of this with a pedal I like better and 50 extra bucks.
I will say this, it was a few years back when i owned a ebs multidrive, but man did i not find any use for it. Tried it in many scenarios and just couldnt dig it. I was less educated with effects so that maybe was a reason as well. Years later i learned im just not much of a OD person, more of a fuzz and to a lesser extent distortion kinda guy. But even ive found applications for the UD and when i use it, it rocks. Curious to see what you think of the 2 compared. Maybe i made bad judgement on the multidrive in my younger days.
 
I will say this, it was a few years back when i owned a ebs multidrive, but man did i not find any use for it. Tried it in many scenarios and just couldnt dig it. I was less educated with effects so that maybe was a reason as well. Years later i learned im just not much of a OD person, more of a fuzz and to a lesser extent distortion kinda guy. But even ive found applications for the UD and when i use it, it rocks. Curious to see what you think of the 2 compared. Maybe i made bad judgement on the multidrive in my younger days.

It's a good pedal and it cuts through well enough. Not very versatile though. Will post back with impressions.
 
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Well I'd like to add my name to the club! I'm currently using the JF-10 compressor and the D-Seed on my board and I love them! The compressor is great. It's very quiet and does a great job of evening out my sound. I actually replaced my Boss DD-20 GigaDelay with the D-Seed. It colors my tone less and is easy to dial in a great delay. Now if they would just come out with a great envelope and octave...

That Dseed rocks right?!? It is very easy to find a quick and lovely delay sound. I still have yet to figure out the A/B on it. But the way it functions otherwise is great.
 
I got my Ultimate Drive last week. Can I join??

Really liking this pedal. I have a Boss ODB3 as well but I am not a fan over tons of OD and dist and this pedal gives me the slight, subtle OD I was looking for. Glad I got it.. for $28 you can't beat the price.
@MarshallNole #112
Proud owner of Harley Benton (european Joyo) American sound, Ultimate drive and digital (don't understand why they didn't call it analog) delay. I sold my Way Huge Pork Loin to buy all three!!! Price really can't be beat.
I'm running the American and the UD in the A+B mix mode of my LS2 to retain the clarity of my bass tone. UD (2nd stage OD) into the American (1st stage OD) produces a massive sound
I'm on the way to repaint them
Can I join?
@aurent2004 #113
Yes! I got one today, just started figuring out the sounds... fun so far.
@Daz JP #114
 
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Well I'd like to add my name to the club! I'm currently using the JF-10 compressor and the D-Seed on my board and I love them! The compressor is great. It's very quiet and does a great job of evening out my sound. I actually replaced my Boss DD-20 GigaDelay with the D-Seed. It colors my tone less and is easy to dial in a great delay. Now if they would just come out with a great envelope and octave...
@groovebass5 #115
 
That Dseed rocks right?!? It is very easy to find a quick and lovely delay sound. I still have yet to figure out the A/B on it. But the way it functions otherwise is great.

The A/B function can be a little tricky at first but it's pretty easy once you get the hang of it. Once you find a sound you like either press the A/B switch to save or bypass to delete. Another great feature is the ability to select which one of your presets even if the pedal is in bypass. Hope that helps!

I usually keep one set for a nice subtle delay and another set for one that works with chordal swells w/my volume pedal.
 
Ordered a Joyo Vintage Phase. I guess I'm addicted to Phase 90 clones (which I expect this is)
Got it today! :)

Very first impression: Behaves like the classic MXR phase 90.

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Here I compare it with the EHX Small Stone. The Joyo is more subtle, and it goes from veeeeeeeeeery sloooow to pretty fast, while the EHX is more pronounced in both settings and goes from very slow to vry fst. ;)
If you adjust the cycle to about the beat of the music, it is obvious that a clean bass tone phases out once per cycle in the EHX, while it does not in the Joyo. That is what annoyed me the most with the EHX.

Anyway. The Joyo Vintage Phase seems to be a pretty good MXR Phase 90 clone, and in its subtleness, it keeps the deep of the bass. To me it is a keeper. It will get its place in my band bass pedal board.
 
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Just ordered a UD and JP-14....these pedals are amazingly cheap compared to the stuff I'm been buying recently!
Soz guys...no joy here for me. I rejected my JP-14 back after about 10 mins. The gain control is all over the place...and there's a serious tone suck when the bypass is engaged...this isn't true bypass! I think I might pass this unit to my guitarist...he'll love it.
 
Soz guys...no joy here for me. I rejected my JP-14 back after about 10 mins. The gain control is all over the place...and there's a serious tone suck when the bypass is engaged...this isn't true bypass! I think I might pass this unit to my guitarist...he'll love it.


Hmmm... many have liked the American Sound (JF-14).
Strange.
Fair enough.
Care to expand on "the gain control is all over the place"?
I understand it may be sensitive but after all, it is modeled after an entry in the Tech 21 Character series.
Which are notoriously touchy, especially the "character" (voice, is what Joyo calls this I believe) and "drive" controls.
There is a delicate balance to be found between these knobs, per taste.
 


Hmmm... many have liked the American Sound (JF-14).
Strange.
Fair enough.
Care to expand on "the gain control is all over the place"?
I understand it may be sensitive but after all, it is modeled after an entry in the Tech 21 Character series.
Which are notoriously touchy, especially the "character" (voice, is what Joyo calls this I believe) and "drive" controls.
There is a delicate balance to be found between these knobs, per taste.

It may be that my copy was out of spec. But my bass was distinctly muffled in bypass mode compared when I took it out of the chain. The Bass / mid /Treble controls each seemed to increase the overall gain. So if I dialed in a mid cut....my gain nosedived....if I added mid boost, I had to pull back the gain by a lot. Then there's the gain itself, it's very effected by every other control, so I found myself tweaking the gain an awful lot. Every minor tweak to the other controls caused wild increases in gain. Even bypassed there seemed to be a gain boost. My Trace Elliot head's preamp was clipping and the input dial was only on the second click. I found the general tone to be slightly muffled, the circuitry was making things a lot less clear and this was true for bypass or engaged. So after about 10 minutes, I decided to re-box it and put it back in the packaging...too much effort. I was hoping to use this pedal as a final Overdrive and EQ but neither were particularly great for my needs.

I'm hoping I might find more joy in the UD pedal.
 
It may be that my copy was out of spec. But my bass was distinctly muffled in bypass mode compared when I took it out of the chain. The Bass / mid /Treble controls each seemed to increase the overall gain. So if I dialed in a mid cut....my gain nosedived....if I added mid boost, I had to pull back the gain by a lot. Then there's the gain itself, it's very effected by every other control, so I found myself tweaking the gain an awful lot. Every minor tweak to the other controls caused wild increases in gain. Even bypassed there seemed to be a gain boost. My Trace Elliot head's preamp was clipping and the input dial was only on the second click. I found the general tone to be slightly muffled, the circuitry was making things a lot less clear and this was true for bypass or engaged. So after about 10 minutes, I decided to re-box it and put it back in the packaging...too much effort. I was hoping to use this pedal as a final Overdrive and EQ but neither were particularly great for my needs.

I'm hoping I might find more joy in the UD pedal.

Thats interesting, I was just coming on here to say that I've crakced out my American (and Joyo comp) again nd been really enjoying them through my trace elliot.... It was for a recording session which required a very particular sub bassy sound so the pedals were always on but I thought they sounded ace. The track is still being mixed but maybe I'll try and get hold of some sound samples to put up here...

If anyones interested American (all as 'o clocks':
Bass: 4
Mid: 11
High: 10:30
Level: 2
Voice: 10
Drive: 8:30

Comp:
Sustain: 2:30
Level: 1:30
Attack: 1

Gain on the amp (Trace Elliot GP12 SMX turned up until hitting orange on the Trace (recommended setting) Graphic EQ cut at 40 then a slopping boost to 180 then a gradual slope back down until the highs are cut gives a pretty huge sub sound.
 
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It may be that my copy was out of spec. But my bass was distinctly muffled in bypass mode compared when I took it out of the chain. The Bass / mid /Treble controls each seemed to increase the overall gain. So if I dialed in a mid cut....my gain nosedived....if I added mid boost, I had to pull back the gain by a lot. Then there's the gain itself, it's very effected by every other control, so I found myself tweaking the gain an awful lot. Every minor tweak to the other controls caused wild increases in gain. Even bypassed there seemed to be a gain boost. My Trace Elliot head's preamp was clipping and the input dial was only on the second click. I found the general tone to be slightly muffled, the circuitry was making things a lot less clear and this was true for bypass or engaged. So after about 10 minutes, I decided to re-box it and put it back in the packaging...too much effort. I was hoping to use this pedal as a final Overdrive and EQ but neither were particularly great for my needs.

I'm hoping I might find more joy in the UD pedal.


I'm going to say you got a bum unit. I could be wrong, but this sounds nothing like the American I use quite regularly.