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Official Joyo Club Part 2: Beyond Thunderclone

#841
Shardik said:
What's your issues with the DC9? I once considered it, but got the Joyo. The Joyo Dyna Comp is good, but not great. I think it has a slight loss of clarity.
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The DC9 is my 1st compressor, so I´m not quite sure what to expect from a comp. But at anything above minimal sensitivity settings it is to noisy for me. At low/minimal sensitivity it does kind of do what I want. Which especially is to tame my deeper notes on the E-string. I want my main tone just a little bit dirty. Without the comp I get to much, to my liking, on low notes, and to little on higher notes. The DC9 remedies that quite well, but it kind of seems like someone put a blanket over my cab, if you know what I mean. I don´t know if the Dyna will be much better, but at that price I can afford to experiment :) From reading at ovnilab.com i probably should just get a MXR M87, but a second cab (SVT210AV) and a good P-bass is 1st on my GAS-list ;)
 
#842
Regarding your tone issues I don't know if it's only a compression problem.
If you really have a big difference between low notes and high notes :
- it can be an eq or room problem : depending on the room you play, your settings are where you place your amp and yourself you can have frequencies which are boosted or reduced (to hear that better play notes from E to E on your E strings for example : if you suddenly hear some notes jumping out, then you have this frequency problem. Solution : use an eq of some sort to reduce a bit this frequency or move your amp to see if it always occurs)
- it can also be a pickup height problem : maybe your pickup is too near the low the strings or too far from the high strings

Compression should be there to give some more eveness in your tone and fatten it a bit, but if you use to tame big differences in volume between strings or notes, the volume will be the same, but some notes will sound really compressed while other no. Did you try to set differently your pickup ?

Maybe, you've already checked these things, but as I had some issues in this area and it took some time to figure them, I'm sharing :)
 
#843
Thanks for your input @ticol07. Its not the room. The issue is the same in every room including a sonicly dampened sound studio. I´we adjusted strings and pickups, to the best of my ability and they sound relatively similar without OD, but I´m sure its not perfect, so I´ll work some more on that. But the lower notes on the E-string still produce much more overdrive than, higher notes. I know my technique is not the best and in the heat of battle i tend to hit the E-string harder than the rest for some reason, which definitely adds to the problem. But to get anywhere near an even amount of OD all over the fret board I need to play very gently towards the low E and gradually harder op to really digging in on higher notes. I know deeper notes does produce more OD, but to me the difference is to much. The cheap DC9 compressor helps, but it kind of dulls my tone.
 
#844
I have also had issues with the sound of my overdrive. To me the solution was to make a clean/FX blend pedal. A switchable FX loop mixer, if you like. This is obviously not an option if you use amp overdrive, but if you use a pedal, it can be quite useful. Then you can control how much driven and how much dry signal you get. This is especially good for the "too much overdrive on low notes" aka "where did my lows go"-problem.
 
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#846
AndreasK said:
Thanks for your input @ticol07. Its not the room. The issue is the same in every room including a sonicly dampened sound studio. I´we adjusted strings and pickups, to the best of my ability and they sound relatively similar without OD, but I´m sure its not perfect, so I´ll work some more on that. But the lower notes on the E-string still produce much more overdrive than, higher notes. I know my technique is not the best and in the heat of battle i tend to hit the E-string harder than the rest for some reason, which definitely adds to the problem. But to get anywhere near an even amount of OD all over the fret board I need to play very gently towards the low E and gradually harder op to really digging in on higher notes. I know deeper notes does produce more OD, but to me the difference is to much. The cheap DC9 compressor helps, but it kind of dulls my tone.
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Ah OK, good for you if you already checked these problems.
So, yes maybe the compression can help. But still, without it there shouldn't be big differences in term of overdrive between your notes.
Do you have a recorder of some kind on which you could watch the level of your different strings. Sometimes you can get fooled : having the feeling your E string doesn't sound that loud, just because it's more bassier than the others. I noticed that on my jazz bass lately, and just by adjusting the pickups the tone was more even (with overdrive).
I, on myself, used the EBS multicomp at the beginning of my chain. It's simple, works well, and can be easily found used.
Now I use the compression of my amp (Spectracomp), but with a subtle touch. I like it better that way : I have a better difference in overdrive amount depending on if I play gently or hard.

The blend pedal trick is great too.

Other information : with the American Joyo, the Voice is there to focuse the overdrive on certain frequencies, so depending on its settings, highs will sound less or more distorded. You can for example set it to have the distorsion being more heavy on the mids and high mids but turning it after 12 and setting the drive not too high.

Edit: I'm seeing you also own a VT Bass -> the character does the same thing as the voice on the American, excepts it's set on higher frequencies.
 
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Here's my American Sound:
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#853
Lethgar said:
Still head over heels for my American. Need a UD next. Does anyone have the yellow trem?
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I have both and I'm not really sure I have use for them both. The American can go just as heavy and sounds better too. But the American can also go very light and subtle or just fat and warm which the UD doesn't really do that well. The UD is still a great OD pedal, but compared to the American...it pales.
 
#855
El Spearo said:
Thanks mate. I'm quite happy with it, I'm thinking of adding a filter, maybe a electro harmonix dr Q nano or a bass balls nano. I bought the Mooer sweeper, but it made a popping sound when engaged, so I sent it back
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The modtone envelope filter is great on bass and sounds amazing. Not mention cost effective. Bottom right corner.
 

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#860
Gilsdorf said:
Seriously! I'm thinking either a Voodoo Octave or a Chorus next...or both... Either way the folks at Joyo have a new loyal customer :excited:
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I say go for the Voodoo Octave. Was my first Joyo pedal I bought and till this day still my favorite of theirs although I havent bought the American everyone raves about here. Would want more people to give it a chance and get more feedback from fellow bass players since we all use effects in different applications.
 
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