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Interesting!

I generally don't have much use for the VLE myself... BUT... I have played through some of those Nemesis cabs, and yeah, that tweeter... ugh, that tweeter... however, the VLE actually would work very well to sorta' "patch" that issue. Very interesting.

That's exactly what the VLE is for... a kind of 'on the front panel of the amp' tweeter control. I believe this control comes directly from the MusicMan amp line that Markbass manufactured. If I remember correctly, the MM cabs did not have tweeter attenuators. I virtually never use the VPF (maybe up to 8 o'clock max to just soften the mid response a touch in some rooms with some basses), but I regularly use the VLE at low levels to take the edge off the top end. That control is very good to take the edge off the top end in a very natural subtle way... more changing the nature to the upper treble response than totally quashing it (just like an onboard passive tone control on a bass). Very nice.

Just like an onboard pre with an active treble control and a passive tone control, the interaction between the VLE, the active treble control, and the tweeter attenuator can be very powerful in sculpting just the right 'nature' of treble response you want. This is very cool with a cab like the Bergantino HT or AE series, where there seems to be quite a bit of upper mids coming out of the horn. Turning the tweeter attenuater down can suck a lot of definition out of your tone (i.e., the treble and upper mids are attenuated). Cranking the tweeter up a touch, and then softening the top end with the VLE can result in a nice amount of upper mid grind without the upper treble slicing your ears off.

Interestingly, I've moved to using the F1 almost exclusively, especially with the newer Series II Epi cabs. It's just slightly tighter on the low end, and slightly more upper mid articulate than the LMII (which results in a touch more perceived volume on the gig), which really works nicely with my instruments. The LMII is still the best deal out there if you are looking for clean, transparent SS tone, but the F1 really is something special, and that head pretty much blew away the guys at the recent GTG.

All good stuff!!!!
 
+1 to Ken on the VLE. It is the most useful knob anybody ever put on a bass amp, especially with the right cab. You can really go from SWR (totally open) to Ampeg (1/3 closed) with that one knob, and you don't have to move the bass/treble/mid from flat (which I always find to be a tone sucking endeavor).
 
...I regularly use the VLE at low levels to take the edge off the top end. That control is very good to take the edge off the top end in a very natural subtle way... more changing the nature to the upper treble response than totally quashing it (just like an onboard passive tone control on a bass). Very nice.
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Cranking the tweeter up a touch, and then softening the top end with the VLE can result in a nice amount of upper mid grind without the upper treble slicing your ears off.
+1 to Ken on the VLE. It is the most useful knob anybody ever put on a bass amp, especially with the right cab. You can really go from SWR (totally open) to Ampeg (1/3 closed) with that one knob, and you don't have to move the bass/treble/mid from flat (which I always find to be a tone sucking endeavor).
Hmmm.... I may have to revisit that control...
 
I can't say I touch it either.

With a bass like an MTD, and a cab with a lot of treble extension like the 410UL, that control can result in a much nicer top end control than using either the active treble cut on the bass or amp, or turning the tweeter way down. You just need to mess around with it a bit, and again, the 'useful' range if you still want a modern, treble present tone, is between off and 9 o'clock IMO.

For the bass and cab you have, try keeping the bass and low mids 'flat', cutting the hi mid (the 'gank' area) just a touch (between 10 and 11 o'clock), dialing in the slightest touch of the VPF... maybe 8 o'clock, and then adjust the VLE to sculpt the sizzle, with the Epi tweeter on at around 10 o'clock. That's a very nice setting with the LMII and a wide voiced bass like the Celinder or MTD's IMO.
 
With a bass like an MTD, and a cab with a lot of treble extension like the 410UL, that control can result in a much nicer top end control than using either the active treble cut on the bass or amp, or turning the tweeter way down. You just need to mess around with it a bit, and again, the 'useful' range if you still want a modern, treble present tone, is between off and 9 o'clock IMO.

For the bass and cab you have, try keeping the bass and low mids 'flat', cutting the hi mid (the 'gank' area) just a touch (between 10 and 11 o'clock), dialing in the slightest touch of the VPF... maybe 8 o'clock, and then adjust the VLE to sculpt the sizzle, with the Epi tweeter on at around 10 o'clock. That's a very nice setting with the LMII and a wide voiced bass like the Celinder or MTD's IMO.

Thanks for the tip Ken! I'll give it a try. :)
 
New club member here. I bought a LMK II last night. As soon as I get comfortable with the amp and it looks like it's gonna not suffer from premature death, I'm getting rid of the Ampeg B5R I've been using. I never liked that head and if I hadn't gotten a spectacular deal on it, I'd have gone with something else.
 
New club member here. I bought a LMK II last night. As soon as I get comfortable with the amp and it looks like it's gonna not suffer from premature death, I'm getting rid of the Ampeg B5R I've been using. I never liked that head and if I hadn't gotten a spectacular deal on it, I'd have gone with something else.
That would make you...

MBCM #75, and welcome!
 
Time for another Mark Bass Club Member (MBCM) MEGA update... :)

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Can't wait to join guys.....I have ordered the 3 x 10 combo...which I believe not may people have! I should have it by the end of the week. I'll post pics & give you some feedback upon arrival!
 
... oh well , i'm out .:ninja:

sold my SD800 .... to Footie { thanks again , Sean ...}

:D
No you're not. Hey, once you're a Jet you're always Jet... :D

You remain an honorary member with your number. No, it's not because I wanna be a noble club runner, it's because I'm lazy. I don't wanna' shuffle numbers every time one of us suffers GAS, which of course is a very regular thing around here. :D

Besides, for those same reasons, you could be back someday. :D
 
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