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No problem. Here is the thread where I compared the UL502 and LMII, using both my Series I UL410 and Series I UL112 stack.
http://www.talkbass.com/forum/showthread.php?t=363655
If you want any more details, let me know.
I also want to mention that there really is no "pro's and con's" between the two, just different versions of good stuff. In my last band (party/dance cover band), the UL410 really worked great having to cut through two loud guitars, drums, and keys. The large box pushes a lot of air and really cuts through very easily with the LMII. I couldn't cut through that busy mix quite as well with my 2xUL112 stack. That stack sounded a bit sweeter and less mid present, but still very nice. I really wish I didn't sell my second UL112, as I could probably really use it now with my current band, an instrumental groove based quartet.
I've been reading that thread over, and I'm not actually sure there is much in there to help you out. Sorry.
You might also want to make the distinction between UL410 (S1) or UL410 (S2) when comparing the UL112 Stack? From what I understand, they are quite different. Did you mean comparisons to the UL410 (S2) or does that matter?
Hey guys, please take a look at this thread: http://www.talkbass.com/forum/showthread.php?t=427003
Unless I'm looking in the wrong place, there is no jumper on my DI's pre/post eq pins.
Unless I'm looking in the wrong place, there is no jumper on my DI's pre/post eq pins.
Here's my thinking - in the past three years I've used either two smaller cabinets (in my case a 210 and a 112) or one 410. I see advantages to both. I started out with the 210/112 and still have those at our rehearsal studio. I bought a 410 in order to have to schlep only one cabinet to the gigs.
While it is nice to have the one cabinet, it's still a 60 pound cabinet and not exactly something I can sling over my back. Casters help, but I also like the added height that I get with two separate cabs, and I usually stack them on the thin end to take the maximum advantage of that height. To get the 410 off the floor I use a stand, which a)is one more thing to carry to a gig, and b)completely uncouples the cab from the floor, for better or for worse.
All of these cabs I have mentioned are Avatars. I've been thinking it may be time for me to step up to something better, so I am wondering about moving to the Epi 410 that is ever popular around here, or two Epi 112s, which weigh a paltry 30 pounds each. (My Avatar 112 is similarly light, but the 210 weighs somewhat more).
At the same time, I'm intrigued by the three way cabinets out there. I've played through an Accugroove Whappo Jr. and liked it. I am curious about the three-way Dr. Bass products, although I am leary that Dr. Bass would be another Avatar-type choice (outstanding value, but an undeniable tonal compromise) which is not the choice I am trying to make. The Avatars are really not that bad at all - if I go to the trouble and expense of upgrading I want to absolutely be an upgrade.
So, as you can all see, I'm just a mess of GAS, more or less.
The thread does address the amp comparison more than the cab comparison - but very interesting reading anyway. Thanks for that.I've been reading that thread over, and I'm not actually sure there is much in there to help you out. Sorry.
I think your looking at the wrong spot. The jumper is closer to the front of the amplifier near the knobs, not the board that you are looking at which is closer to the DI. do not move those wires.
Does anyone here use an LMII with 2 x 102P Traveller cabs stacked vertically?
I'm using just one cab at the moment and am thinking about getting another...any thoughts?
I'm using just one cab at the moment and am thinking about getting another...any thoughts?
I Didnt really dig that 102P cab personally. If you get two of the cabs you're talking 60LBS total right? You can get a very serious sounding single cab (thinking epifani here) that will weigh less and *probably* sound better. Like the UL310.
Anyway, I'm not trying to talk you out of anything. Just my .02
Anyway, I'm not trying to talk you out of anything. Just my .02
I kinda like the 102P's sound, but understand why many don't - it's not very sweet on it's own, but in a real band situation, the tone works very well...IMHO of course..!
I have tried a UL310 and really liked it, but over here in the UK, they're very pricey... I was chatting to another customer in the shop whilst I was trying various cabs and he said I should try 2 x 102P's, quote: "...if they're stacked vertically the bottom end is monster"! (They only had one 102P in the shop).
Also, 2 cabs weighing 30lbs each are easier to move around than 1 60lb cab (someone else can carry one - ha!), and easier to fit around all the other band gear!...I'd also like the option of having either a smaller rig or a bigger one...
Living out of the US makes it difficult to get our hands on Epifani / Bergantino and such...
I have one 102p cab which is very nice combined with my mini CMD121p or better yet with the F1+AE112 Bergantino setup (which is a killer!). I got it because I wanted to have some of the 10" sound into my setup - not in the price of breaking my back, again (Eden D410T...)
While strong enough for small venues, the 102p alone is limited to its mid-low/mid range and does not provide enough low frequencies, IMHO. I also feel the piezo tweeter on these is inferior compare to the ones on the Bergi. So it's a great extension cab but I'm not sure it's good enough to stand on its own - although I never tried 2X102p.
I have one 102p cab which is very nice combined with my mini CMD121p or better yet with the F1+AE112 Bergantino setup (which is a killer!). I got it because I wanted to have some of the 10" sound into my setup - not in the price of breaking my back, again (Eden D410T...)
While strong enough for small venues, the 102p alone is limited to its mid-low/mid range and does not provide enough low frequencies, IMHO. I also feel the piezo tweeter on these is inferior compare to the ones on the Bergi. So it's a great extension cab but I'm not sure it's good enough to stand on its own - although I never tried 2X102p.
Guys:
Figured I'd turn to the TB experts for some advice... I'm looking for a single cab to pair with the LMK-II. And, since it's a secondary rig, I'm not looking to spend too much money.
I've got an LMK II and love it. I often use it with my Dr. Bass stack (BL2260/BL115). But, I've also got a Yorkville XS400H head I like to use, and naturally the LMK II is more portable. So, for larger gigs, I'll take either head with the Dr. Bass stack. But, for small gigs, where weight is important, I'd prefer to have a single cab to use with the LMK II, which will also double as my home rig. It's conceivable I'd use this paired with one of the Dr. Bass cabs, but it's not mandatory, so a 4 Ohm cab with 500W capability is fine, or 8 ohm with 300W (the LMK II specs will envelop the Yorkie).
You might ask "why not just haul along one of the Dr. Bass cabs?" and that's a good question - and something I've done from time to time. Basically, though, I prefer to leave the larger rig set up at rehearsal unless we're taking everything to the gig. Which brings me back to the need for a smaller cab.
I've done lots of snooping on TB...Avatar, Bag End, Mesa, Berg, Aguilar, etc. all come up as good choices. Then there's the 1x15, 1x12, 2x10 options out there.
In my case, I'm generally a 15" speaker guy as I like the mids/bottom end (and I play Ricks or a GL Fender which are generally voiced higher). Our band plays standard classic rock covers (Aerosmith, ZZ Top, SRV, KWS, Crowes, Rush, etc). Generally I'm competing against tone junkie guitarists with Matchless, Komet, Marshall, or similar rigs so a hi-fi sound is not what I need. We don't use PA support for the smaller venues we typically play (and I've got a Sansamp BDDI if we move to larger clubs).
Used equip is OK for this setup. Oh, and did I mention that weight is important!
Ok gang...what would you do?
Figured I'd turn to the TB experts for some advice... I'm looking for a single cab to pair with the LMK-II. And, since it's a secondary rig, I'm not looking to spend too much money.
I've got an LMK II and love it. I often use it with my Dr. Bass stack (BL2260/BL115). But, I've also got a Yorkville XS400H head I like to use, and naturally the LMK II is more portable. So, for larger gigs, I'll take either head with the Dr. Bass stack. But, for small gigs, where weight is important, I'd prefer to have a single cab to use with the LMK II, which will also double as my home rig. It's conceivable I'd use this paired with one of the Dr. Bass cabs, but it's not mandatory, so a 4 Ohm cab with 500W capability is fine, or 8 ohm with 300W (the LMK II specs will envelop the Yorkie).
You might ask "why not just haul along one of the Dr. Bass cabs?" and that's a good question - and something I've done from time to time. Basically, though, I prefer to leave the larger rig set up at rehearsal unless we're taking everything to the gig. Which brings me back to the need for a smaller cab.
I've done lots of snooping on TB...Avatar, Bag End, Mesa, Berg, Aguilar, etc. all come up as good choices. Then there's the 1x15, 1x12, 2x10 options out there.
In my case, I'm generally a 15" speaker guy as I like the mids/bottom end (and I play Ricks or a GL Fender which are generally voiced higher). Our band plays standard classic rock covers (Aerosmith, ZZ Top, SRV, KWS, Crowes, Rush, etc). Generally I'm competing against tone junkie guitarists with Matchless, Komet, Marshall, or similar rigs so a hi-fi sound is not what I need. We don't use PA support for the smaller venues we typically play (and I've got a Sansamp BDDI if we move to larger clubs).
Used equip is OK for this setup. Oh, and did I mention that weight is important!
Ok gang...what would you do?
I would take 30 seconds to unplug one of my Dr. Bass cabs, take it to the gig, and spend 30 seconds setting it back up in my practice space after the gig 
I would take 30 seconds to unplug one of my Dr. Bass cabs, take it to the gig, and spend 30 seconds setting it back up in my practice space after the gig
I know I know...
except that doesn't get me a practice setup for home. It's always preferred vs headphones.
Now having my Mini 121 for nearly a week, I have to say it's the best amp I've ever personally played with and heard. I'm never switching companies again, I'll be a Markbass user for life now. Eventually I'll buy a head and cabinet rig as well, for a different tonal option.
Makes total sense to me. If you want light, how light? If want about 30LBS that limits your options. The EA wizzy is a nice 30 pounder as is the UL112 (but is a little pricey). If you dont want to spend much and dont mind 45LBS or so the bag end is an option. There is one for sale for $250-ish shipped in the TB classifieds. Carvin makes decent cabs at reasonable prices too.
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