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Official Zon Club Part 3

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#362
My mistake.
EMGs are 1mm larger than the Bartolinis so no way to install them without routing the cavity. So no chance.
I have also bought a Polyfusion preamp (and I'm waiting for the East pre), so I'll have to start toying with preamps and evaluate the result.
I'll let you know, thanks for your interest!
 
#364
onewebfoot said:
Would there be an aftermarket internal wrap-around ... (something) ... that could do that? I merely ask having already committed to one direction, obviously.

[EDIT] OH...MY...something. I just looked up the iGig feature you are talking about. Here is one example. Invalid Link Removed

I can create this internal feature *right now* with what I have *right now* laying in my living room. And what I have in my living room is the high-end, custom foam with which my Barker shipped a few years ago. There's enough extra on that foam padding that I can create a dowel-reinforced, custom fit neck reinforcement for this Cronkhite gig bag while retaining whatever aspirations I have for a Barker case in the future with the foam that Barker himself chose to ship for a $3K+ bass.

And I would not use THIS iGig gig bag with a Sonus. There's a difference between generic one-size fits many and a custom glove fit for a Sonus 5. There's a difference between ballistic nylon and leather. There's a difference between what the gig bag industry says I need and what I truly need. There's a difference between Cronkhite and the entire gig bagging industry.

Seriously laughing right now, but *thanks* for posting. You did me a HUGE favor. I humbly thank you. I'm going to DO precisely what you said with that bass-shipping-class spare foam and a cycling leg wrap velcro strip, and even wrap it in felt if I can. Might be able to post pics by the end of the weekend. I'm motivated.

p.s. The global gig bag industry, in general, as a whole, can BITE ME!!!. Just had to add that, from my heart.
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Are you okay? The affect comes off like you are paranoid about what the gig bag industry is scheming and how they are after you.

Just tossing some foam and a leg wrap into the gig bag isn't quite the same- it isn't anchored to the bag.

The Cronkhite stuff is really nice- I used to have one for another instrument. But the iGig bag I have is exactly sized for my TJ6 (a bit large for my sonus 5, admittedly), but it given that the bottom is a snug fit and the neck is held in place and the headstock held away from the sides/faces of the bag, it doesn't matter that much. I'm not sure how a tighter fit would really change things drastically.
 
#365
Yeah...

And as someone who's gotten his hands on a couple of the bags Cronkite made for Fodera, I'd still opt for a Mono or IGig if real protection/shock absorbtion was the goal. If you're happy with the bag, then that's all that matters. But the industry isn't forcing anything on you :)
 
#366
onewebfoot said:
Let the industry learn. I don't think they can (or will). But yeah, with additional manual tweaks on my part, with my choices, I'm OK. The cookie cutter solutions weren't worth @#$% to me either. But leave it to THIS forum to find the faults with anything. That's what I came here for, and it's what I got, with something better as the result. Thank you.

p.s. Please speak to the Zon gig bags, now, if *anybody* has the balls for it. DO IT.
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Wait, learn what? It's not clear to me what you think they should be learning.

I wasn't commenting on the faults of anything- I was saying that if they updated the design, they'd be competing directly with the best while still having a different product (leather). It would help them. They don't get enough cred. Somehow you think we are arguing with you...which nobody is.

I'm getting really anxious reading your posts. They aren't normally like this.
 
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Angus said:
Wait, learn what? It's not clear to me what you think they should be learning...
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I'm also confused. I have lots of high end basses and I've trusted them to several brands of nice bags, like Access, iGig, inCase, SKB, Protec, etc, and never ever had a problem.

Not to take away from Cronkhite's stuff, 'cause I know it's REALLY nice (as I recall, he was the original Union Blues dude, and those bags have always been tops), BUT... I'd definitely stop VERY short of saying (or even somewhat implying) the rest of the stuff on the market is such terrible stuff, which is the way I tend to read onewebfoot's posts.
 
#368
OK, I've removed all posts related to this discussion. If you want to keep me quoted for posterity, that's your call. I can definitely see your perspective.

EDIT: I still don't think the gig bag industry, as a whole, has the best interests of the consumer in mind. Too bad Consumer Reports doesn't cover that, or do they?
 
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onewebfoot said:
OK, I've removed all posts related to this discussion. If you want to keep me quoted for posterity, that's your call. I can definitely see your perspective.
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Well, from my perspective, I certainly don't mind you speaking to your preferences, just trying to figure out why it seemed so particularly critical of the other brands. No biggie tho. You have what you like best, so life is good. :)
 
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I can definitely see how people see me as volatile on this topic, and I can defintiely see why people take concern at yesterday's tone from my keyboard. But aside from whatever floats any one person's boat, I'm writing to Consumer Reports on this topic, to present a case for their investigations into and evaluations of gig bags.

I get like this once in awhile. Some here perceive it as paranoia on my part. I just attribute it to getting (um) angry. I've got more on the line with this topic than many, as I had to find something that fits my application (cycling) and offers some degree of legitimate protection. Onward.
 
#373
kamakiriad7 said:
Ehque, does your vb6 have bolt-on or set-neck construction?

I know set-neck isn't offered anymore on the website for the Vinny, but I'm curious as to if they'll still do it upon request.
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Missed this the first time round (in Cambodia and difficult to get good internet).

Mine's bolt on. I'm not sure if he does neckthroughs anymore, but I would have ordered mine bolt-on anyway. It's easier to ship around if it needs work (not that I expect it ever would) and also allows for shims and stuff to correct the action if necessary (not that I expect ever to need to do that).
 
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Bryan R. Tyler said:
Shimming is a common practice with bolt-on necks that involves sliding a piece of thin material (a business card, etc.) that can help adjust the tilt of the neck.
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Hi Bryan. I was a bit surprised that being able to use a shim was used as an argument for a bolt on neck on a ZON. I have owned three ZONs and the necks have all been extremely rigid. I had the impression that once they have been set up at the shop they do not need a lot of tweaking later, especially the five and six string necks. But maybe I have been very fortunate with the instruments I have had.
 
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fretless4string said:
Hi Bryan. I was a bit surprised that being able to use a shim was used as an argument for a bolt on neck on a ZON. I have owned three ZONs and the necks have all been extremely rigid. I had the impression that once they have been set up at the shop they do not need a lot of tweaking later, especially the five and six string necks. But maybe I have been very fortunate with the instruments I have had.
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Shimming is done to adjust the neck angle in relation to the body in order to achieve the desired bridge/saddle height. Neck rigidness isn't really a factor--that's more important to neck relief, at least before Zon started adding relief adjustment.

Both saddle height and neck relief are important in getting the kind of action you want, but you can't really substitute one for the other. Does that make sense?
 
#379
mikezimmerman said:
Shimming is done to adjust the neck angle in relation to the body in order to achieve the desired bridge/saddle height. Neck rigidness isn't really a factor--that's more important to neck relief, at least before Zon started adding relief adjustment.

Both saddle height and neck relief are important in getting the kind of action you want, but you can't really substitute one for the other. Does that make sense?
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yes, absolutely
 
#380
Mike Dimin said:
hey Zon fans, just wanted to let you know that a new Zon Solo Artists CD of Holiday Music is about to be released. take a look if interested:
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Just received my copies of the CD. Here is the playlist:

We Three Kings - Ray Riendeau
Angels We Have Heard on High - Michael Manring
Dance of the Sugar Plum Fairies - Alex Bershadsky
Silent Night - Zander Zon
The Holly and the Ivory - Chuck Bianchi
O' Come All Ye Faithful - Scott Harlan
Greensleeves - Jonni Lightfoot
Gloucestershire Wassail - Mike Dimin
Suite No. 1 in G Major - Michael Manring
In the Bleak Midwinter - Chuck Bianchi
Ma'oz Tzur - Alex Bershadsky
O' Holy Night - Zander Zon
Carol of the Bells - Jonni Lightfoot


Mike Dimin
 
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