@Bryan R. Tyler - Who did the side dot work for you? I've been wanting to do the same thing on my Sonus Elite 5 fretless... wish I would've had the foresight to think of it before it was built.
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Bryan R. Tyler
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Ok, this is not a photoshopped image.
I had some issues locating old Schaller hardware but changed from golden hardware to black hardware.
I thought I loved the gold but fell in love with the black.
Which one do you prefer ?
I had some issues locating old Schaller hardware but changed from golden hardware to black hardware.
I thought I loved the gold but fell in love with the black.
Which one do you prefer ?
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Definitely the black.Ok, this is not a photoshopped image.
I had some issues locating old Schaller hardware but changed from golden hardware to black hardware.
I thought I loved the gold but fell in love with the black.
Which one do you prefer ?
Ok. That's it. I definitely need sound clips now.Yum!
Hey everyone, so Joe sent me some pics of my build progress a couple of days ago. I placed an order for two basses back in the beginning of May 2014. I wanted to show you the budding stages of a Zon VB4. What do you guys think of the figuring? I can't lie...I'm a bit disappointed that as we approach 2016, this is the stage they're up to on my order. I assume they don't want to show my progress on the headless TJ6 for a reason. Still, what can I do? They're a small shop, and I know the basses will be incredible. I'll just have to wait a bit longer.
Hey Guys, I am considering a purchase of a Zon Standard (either Sonus or Mosaic, 5 string) and was wondering what I should know. I currently have 2 Carvin customs (LB76 and V69K) and an MTD Kingston Signature AG6. I love the amazing lows and growl of the Zons, more than all my others, which is mostly the reason I want to add it. Just wanted to check in with those in the know. And no I can't afford an expensive USA Zon or I would buy one. LOL.
Thanks and Merry Christmas!
Thanks and Merry Christmas!
Any of the Zon folks out there have any experience with either Mono Vertigo bass bag or IGIG 515 bass bag for there Zon Legacy Elite, which would be the better bag for your Zon?
Holy CRAP!!!! You placed your order in MAY of 2014, MY GOD there back log has gone way up now, I expecting maybe most 15 months out for a build but it looks like it could be over 2 years now for a build.
THANK YOU! When I received those pics of a carved body with nothing else (and it looks like they put the glossy finish on instead of the satin finish?) I did get a bit dejected. I understand that they have a large backlog and I'm okay waiting, but the level of communication has not been up to par.
The satin finishes are glossy at first, I believe, then get buffed down. I think they are different finishes chemically but some of the satin comes in the buffing stages. I don't know if that is the case here or not, but it does not look finished given the texture you see in the reflection at the forearm carve.
I don't think most people get pictures, so in that sense, you're doing pretty good.
Communication has never really been their strong suit, and I think that is mostly down to manpower. Perfectionism always takes extra time, but I think in their case it is sometimes at the cost of decreased communication to put the focus on building.
I think it is very difficult to decide what "up to par" is- people have increasing expectations for regularly communication via email, phone, texting, regular pictures, etc, but it is very difficult for small companies to keep up with unless they have a dedicated, full-time "media" person. Twenty years ago, you'd put your down payment down, wait until it was done, get a call, make a payment, and receive it. These days people expect regular communication. That's hard. Some companies do it much better than others.
I don't think most people get pictures, so in that sense, you're doing pretty good.
Communication has never really been their strong suit, and I think that is mostly down to manpower. Perfectionism always takes extra time, but I think in their case it is sometimes at the cost of decreased communication to put the focus on building.
I think it is very difficult to decide what "up to par" is- people have increasing expectations for regularly communication via email, phone, texting, regular pictures, etc, but it is very difficult for small companies to keep up with unless they have a dedicated, full-time "media" person. Twenty years ago, you'd put your down payment down, wait until it was done, get a call, make a payment, and receive it. These days people expect regular communication. That's hard. Some companies do it much better than others.
I shouldn't have said anything, because it's hard to go into more detail without betraying what should be privileged communication, which I don't want to do (but I kind of did anyway). See, in this case, the term "up to par"- or my expectations- were set by them.
They set the expectations by repeatedly saying that the basses are a week away, or by saying that they will send pics of both nearly finished basses. I would prefer if they gave an unvarnished account of what's going on, rather than build these expectations and then undercut them. It doesn't make a lot of sense, and would seem to engender frustration in anyone. I am fine with delays and backlogs. I run a small business and know how much of a pain in the ass suppliers can be. But why try to polish reality so? It just ends up confusing and frustrating the client more.
I didn't know that that was the look of a satin finish at the initial stages. That helps to know that.
Look, to be honest, I can't wait to get these damn things. That's why I experience frustration when reality diverges from the expectations they set. I don't get the sense that Joe is doing anything wrong, more that he just doesn't want to disappoint me. But I think he falls into the trap of biting off more than he can chew.
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Yeah, that I understand, and is completely, completely valid.
I don't think it's the latter- I think it's the former. Does not want to disappoint, which makes setting appropriate timing goals difficult.
