He's French. The only strategy is "SURRENDER"
Sorry morf, too easy
It's fine with me. When it comes down to it I know whos got balls and who doesnt
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Oh yeah, the English are sooo educated.
- Thread starter Deluge Of Sound
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It's fine with me. When it comes down to it I know whos got balls and who doesnt
Who said march? I mentioned U Boats and there would be ships, missiles provided by Von Braun and his fellow scientists, fired from Vladivostok....
Plenty of ways it could have been done.Nice to see you really do think you're completely invincible though. Must be nice to live in fantasy land.
We're not invincible in the nuclear age.
In 1940? Pretty much.
The same way the US brought their men to Europe genius.
Staging in Africa and Britain? I don't think that would work.
We're so defeatable it's scary. Open, porous borders, a bunch of weak-kneed politicians running things, a military that's been a sociology experiment for the past 15 years, etc... In 1940, we were pretty much invincible though. And we had the H-Bomb.
Which is pretty much what the Japanese did in Pearl Harbor. Would they have kept attacking after it, with the help of the German's, you'd be eating bratwurst instead of burritos and saying danke shun
Totally disagree. The US pretty much would have been able to trade territory for time and attrition. Size, population, geography and location count for a lot. There were past wars lost on US soil don't forget.
Pearl Harbor, the Aleutians and so on would have been next to useless in staging an invasion on the US mainland. Mexico and/or Canada would have to have been taken and used for that.
And that's coming a from a Belgian
i'm not belgian and the belgians never make any claims that their army was the real deal (like the french). everyone knows it sucked and we're all cool about it. and belgium is bit smaller than germany was at the time and was taken by surprise. the french knew that sooner or later hitler will come after them.
I really do not think that Hitler ever concived of the merest possibility of attacking the States. Germany had one aircraft carrier that never put to sea. The Royal Navy blasted almost every German warship that came out and the U-Boat fleet ended up having the highest attrition rate of any service. Also, once the USN got their new subhunter destroyers going, it was game over for the Germans who approached the American seaboard.
Göring also, stupidly, had no 4 motor planes (well, they had one, a converted passenger plane, but it only flew once)and even the V2 (which came very late in the war) had to be launched from Holland to even make it to London.
Hitler's preferred policy with America was "get out of my yard, and I'll stay out of yours".
"What If" is a fun game, innit?
Göring also, stupidly, had no 4 motor planes (well, they had one, a converted passenger plane, but it only flew once)and even the V2 (which came very late in the war) had to be launched from Holland to even make it to London.
Hitler's preferred policy with America was "get out of my yard, and I'll stay out of yours".
"What If" is a fun game, innit?
Could be done. But then again the US could also take a page out of the Soviet play book and simply moved industry away and kept on fighting.
Who said march? I mentioned U Boats and there would be ships, missiles provided by Von Braun and his fellow scientists, fired from Vladivostok....
So you ship a bunch of guys to Alaska? You've got millions of troops staged for an invasion. Then what? You think the Canadians are going to sell you food? How are you going to cross the Rockies?
I don't think you've thought this through.
Hitler on his own could never have take on invading the US - but if he had managed to have an alliance with Stalin and maintained the frightening progress of the V2 scientists in USSR territory - he could have built up a frightening force in the East - threatening the US!
Who said march? I mentioned U Boats and there would be ships, missiles provided by Von Braun and his fellow scientists, fired from Vladivostok....
german u boats did actually make it to new york and boston and sunk some freight ships.
i think the whole von Braun (von is never written with a capital by the way) story is way exaggerated. yeah, V1 and V2 existed and some flew, but their impact on the war as a whole was minimal, if that.
the jet engined messerschmidt was the weapon of the future, but it's range was way to short to get to the us.
True, but "nothing will come from nothing" and I think that was the price we had to pay to allow Roosevelt to get Congress to agree to help us out. Don't forget, that almost as many Americans had German (or Irish) ancestry as British.
And I really don't think that Eisenhower looked at a map of occupied Normandy and thought "boy, the money we can screw out of these guys."
Now that would have been frightening! Too much ego for that to have ever worked though.
Staging in Africa and Britain? I don't think that would work.
Staging in Japan could have worked just fine.
Only because by then - the supply and will was running out - if there had been a collaboration with Soviet rocket scientists and no Russian front, who knows what they might have been able to develop in a few years?
