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OK this woman is BAD!!!!!

#121
Snaxster said:
Tell me true, TF: If instead they were males, would you care as much and be as impressed?
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Nice virtue signaling there, Snaxster! Imply that the OP had some sort of hidden motive rooted in a lack of virtue that you would like all the believe that you posses.

Back on topic, that arrangement is WAY hip. I love covers that build on the original, but use totally different instrumentation. Nice find, @two fingers. Thanks for sharing.
 
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#122
AboutSweetSue said:
With all due respect, I found a vast majority of the 30+ songs I rifled through painful to listen to, and they mostly confirmed my general idea of what K Pop is. It was so incredibly Americanized...just that it was Korean with splashes of traditional instrumentation. My sister-in-law owns one of the largest dance studios in the Nashville area. I am beyond sick of dance pop, music geared towards dance, and most American pop...so it's no stretch for me to dislike K Pop.

With that being said, I did discover I like SOME of what is I suppose considered K Pop. Iris "Love Game" and Younha "Dark Cloud" weren't all that bad. Iris has this 80s vibe going on I liked.

So there you have it. I feel that a majority of K Pop is trash. But, in all honesty, we all feel that a lot of music is trash...we all have preferences. My use of trash is just a bit harsh, and you have proven that it is an unjust blanket statement.
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Ditto. Pop in any language is easily consumable entertainment with little artistic quality.
 
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#124
socialleper said:
Ditto. Pop in any language is easily consumable entertainment with little artistic quality.
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It is essentially dance music geared towards teens, club goers. They've done away with a lot of the dance clubs on 2nd Ave. and Broad here in Nashville, but I remember a time of being dragged to those by my sister-in-law and brother (Red Iguana being one) and so I witnessed what this music is built for...dancing. I prefer the Allman Brothers, but I haven't seen any teens dancing to Blue Sky.
 
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#125
two fingers said:
I was just blown away by her playing.... and the drummer's as well. I really can't figure out for the life of me why gender has anything to do with it. She's a killer player. They are ALL killer players. They did a ridiculously cool version of a killer song. That's the only reason I shared it. Had I heard it on Spotify and was able to link it there I would have been equally impressed and would have shared it that way.
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Maybe it's because you brought it up in the OP, and told everyone to not act like 12 year olds.
 
#126
socialleper said:
Ditto. Pop in any language is easily consumable entertainment with little artistic quality.
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Ha! It's funny how we perceive things differently. To me, the true mark of an artist is, in fact, the ability to make something that is either beautiful or provocative (or both) WHILE AT THE SAME TIME making it easily consumable.

The brilliance of Huckleberry Finn is the fact that a smart 12 year old can read it and just get a fantastic adventure story. But a political science major could write his/her doctoral thesis on the issues discussed in the book.

Impressionist paintings are studied in depth by art students everywhere. But, at the end of the day, an average Joe can get lost in their beauty.

Duran Duran had some of the most catchy, easily-digested tunes ever. But many of their songs are musically somewhat complex and have great bass lines that don't pedal on the root. The same can be said for Prince, Level 42, Michael Jackson, Hall & Oats, Talking Heads, Tears for Fears and countless others. (I'm a child of the 80s so that's where my mind gravtitates.)

Meanwhile, a lot of jazz (to me) is musical masterbation. Sure, you've got 7 PHDs from various music theory and composition schools. But if you can't evoke emotion from the average non music major who happens to walk into the room, what's the point? To get others musicians to drop their jaws and say "Oh snap! Did you hear how that sax player went all mixalydian in 7/13 time over top of the keys guy getn all Dorian in 4/4????" Yes, I'm just being g goofy. And I'm actually a big fan of several melodic jazz groups. But my point is simply that more complexity, in and of itself, does not make any art "better". And appealing to the masses doesn't, in and of itself, make any art "worse".
 
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#128
Clark Dark said:
Not really slap but more like double thumbing on this particular tune. The Bassist, drummer, and keyboardist are all session musicians and she is influenced by Marcus Miller.
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Kinda reminds me of Mark King's Mr. Pink in a few places.

You can definitely hear the Marcus Miller influence in her style, and especially in her tone. That controlled funky jazz inspired vibe rather than the out of control metallic clank that's all too common these days when some players really start ripping into it. I like it a lot.

But what I really liked most was that drummer!!! I'd love to get someone who plays like her in my next band - should I ever experience "a momentary lapse of reason" and get stupid enough to decide to do yet another band. :laugh:

@two fingers - Thx for posting. I really enjoyed that.
 
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I really dig it. Making it their own, and well played. Great players. Pipa playing the vocal line - dang! Creativity, good chops, having fun - all things I aspire to bring to music.
What cracks me up is the posts in this thread that remind me of the old joke:
Q - How many (bass) guitarists does it take to change a light bulb?
A - 10. 1 to change it and 9 to say "meh, that wasn't all that great" or "I could do it better".
 
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#131
two fingers said:
I was just blown away by her playing.... and the drummer's as well. I really can't figure out for the life of me why gender has anything to do with it.
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The implication they're trying to make is that you are subconsciously thinking "Wow, she's a great player...(for a girl...)" simply because you mentioned it, or because the bassist simply IS a woman and you complimented her on something, this must have only merited commenting because they believe you subconsciously find it surprising a female plays this well. They believe that argument holds water because it can't be disproved OR proven either way, but that obviously doesn't make their assertion correct. Just as you and I liking different ice cream flavors doesn't mean you hate me and chose a different flavor out of spite. It's jumping to conclusions on an exponential level lol.

My generation does this thing a lot, but there's no way to "win" other than to just ignore it and move on. If you posted it just saying "Wow! This bassist is awesome!", you'd still get people saying you only posted it because she was a female bassist, or because she's got a lotta chest on display and therefore you were drawn because of that.

I know the naysayer comments get annoying, but you're not on trial and IMO don't need to defend yourself or intentions to anyone when you posted it. You liked the performance, period. You shouldn't have to prove innocence of anything to anyone...just my $0.02 :meh:
 
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#132
kesslari said:
What cracks me up is the posts in this thread that remind me of the old joke:
Q - How many (bass) guitarists does it take to change a light bulb?
A - 10. 1 to change it and 9 to say "meh, that wasn't all that great" or "I could do it better".
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True dat! :laugh:

Bottom line: For every twenty players out there who say they can do it better, there's one player who's actually doing it.

I used to get that from time to time in my early band years. The slightly buzzed guy (it's always a guy) who would come up and tell you you're doing it wrong, or who offered to give you "a few pointers."

I had a nasty habit of immediately unslinging my bass, pointing to a chair while holding out my bass and saying: "Sit! Show me."

The reaction and the expressions on their faces were invariably hilarious.

I never once had any of these poseurs take me up on it.
 
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#134
GretschWretch said:
Okay; I think I got it now. Bass. Chops. Eye candy.



I think we can close this thread now. ;)
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Not quite. I'd just like to offer the observation that Katzenjammer is a prime example of how feminine beauty and musical talent are not mutually exclusive things. And that includes dexterity and skills on bass. (Especially the bass balalaika.) ;)

 
#135
I appreciate the talent and didn't care for this version of this song. Sounded very similar to Marcus' version which I also didn't care for. I'm not anti-slap... this just happens to be a song where I don't care for the fit. Garibaldi and Prestia are not this metronomic, one of the reasons I prefer them.

On the double-thumping isn't slap thing, that seems odd since single thumping is. And she did do regular slapping and popping too. A lot of it, including several of the usual cliche licks. Nice job. I'm just not into it.
 
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