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old school tone, but portable
- Thread starter jeremynyc
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If you want the Jamerson tone, I suggest a Mesa Walkabout with a 15" cabinet.... Oh, and turn that damn horn off! Pretty expensive, but the Walkabout would probably sound great with an Orange 15. You should also look into the Walkabout 15 Scout combo. Yeah, it's a little heavy, but not too bad and deep rich tone for days.
I have an Accugroove Tri115 on the way. I'll let ya know how it sounds with the Walkabout, but I am expecting great things.
I have an Accugroove Tri115 on the way. I'll let ya know how it sounds with the Walkabout, but I am expecting great things.
It can be described as that, although there is ongoing discussion as to whether such a term is presuppositioned semantics. Conflict of interest management is what I do for a living, by the way.
alexclaber
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I'm building a compact 15" cab using the Kappalite 3015 that I hope to really nail these requirements - should be barely over 30lbs, similar bass response to a sealed 8x10" (i.e. not that deep but enough to sound fat) and will play almost as loud as a 3x10" or 2x12".
Alex
Alex
Well there's no lack of choices. If only there was one dealer that had ALL of them to try.
Still waiting to try the Shuttle 6.0. My local dealer has it on back order.
I may just end up for whatever has decent volume and is easy to carry. I get a lot of tone from my 60s pbass with flats. If it sounds good through a nice clean neve console why not a nice clean bass head?
Big thanks to jeremynyc for the post and Stumbo for the compilation. I'm thinking of a new rig with the same req'ts except for SR5 w/ flats. Great info guys!
My dealer told me 2 weeks for the Shuttle 6.0. I don't have one on order but I was asking anyway. I'm definiltly going towards the new Mini R Schroeder cab. Just trying to decide between the + or not.
Thanks guys for so many tips and so much useful info!
I've been thinking more about my volume requirements and for this rig I would want about the volume a single 15. A 115 will get me through most small/medium gigs as long as it has enough wattage going into it not to fart out.
So maybe I should just get a 115 like the bag end?
BUT, there are all these new, light 12" cabs with high wattage that claim to put out a lot of sound.
The places I play tend to be smallish, so I'm just concerned with getting a nice full stage sound (there is always PA support).
Does anyone have experience comparing some of the newer 112 to a more traditional 115?
I've been thinking more about my volume requirements and for this rig I would want about the volume a single 15. A 115 will get me through most small/medium gigs as long as it has enough wattage going into it not to fart out.
So maybe I should just get a 115 like the bag end?
BUT, there are all these new, light 12" cabs with high wattage that claim to put out a lot of sound.
The places I play tend to be smallish, so I'm just concerned with getting a nice full stage sound (there is always PA support).
Does anyone have experience comparing some of the newer 112 to a more traditional 115?
The lightest Bag End 115 weighs 44lbs. It comes with red carpet covering. I thought you didn't want to stand out? Your previous post stated that the MarkBass colors werent' your style.
It would seem the Dr. Bass 1x15 that weighs 36lbs might fit the bill. With a Shuttle 3/6 weighing in around 3lbs. That wouldn't seem to be too bad. If you put it up on a P.A. type speaker stand to get it to ear level and adjust the angle for best stage volume, I bet it would give you the exact sound you're looking for. Any Dr. Bass owner's out there to confirm this approach?
1. How much weight are you really willing to carry up 3 flights of stairs? Here's a test: find some weights,(around 50lbs), put them in a box and try carrying them up the stairs. (Don't forget your bass/cords/etc.) You'll be carrying probably over 60lbs. See how it goes.
2. How big are the venues you usually play?
I know, I really don't like that red carpet covering on the bag ends, but for me it's not nearly has bad as the BRIGHT ORANGE on the markbass. Of course just to be contradictory, I don't mind the Orange brand amps.
But it's a different, cooler, orange. Really.
1. How much weight? Not much. Luckily I don't need to do it often, as almost every gig I do has a backline provided. I can always make two trips.
2. How big are the venues? Bars, mostly. 100-300 capacity.
I know, I really don't like that red carpet covering on the bag ends, but for me it's not nearly has bad as the BRIGHT ORANGE on the markbass. Of course just to be contradictory, I don't mind the Orange brand amps.
But it's a different, cooler, orange. Really.
1. How much weight? Not much. Luckily I don't need to do it often, as almost every gig I do has a backline provided. I can always make two trips.
2. How big are the venues? Bars, mostly. 100-300 capacity.
On a fairly dark stage the "deep red" looks black, I wouldn't even consider the looks to be an issue. I can tell you it sounds a 1000 times better then the Dr bass 15 and is fuller deeper and louder then any single 12 cabinet on the market.
I used one for many years, sounds great, small package but 3 flights of stairs will be a workout!
Since you don't have to carry your equipment that often and you want the old school tone, IIWM(if it was me), I would go with the 1x15 and something like the Shuttle.
Another thought: Can another band member (that doesn't have to deal w/3 flights of stairs) keep your rig and transport it to a gig when you need it? Size/weight maybe wouldn't matter as much. Maybe they could haul a 2x15 cab (or whatever choice you made) when you need it. Keep your amp at home with a small cab for practice/rehearsal.
Let us know what you decide and how your new rig sounds.
Good luck.
Another thought: Can another band member (that doesn't have to deal w/3 flights of stairs) keep your rig and transport it to a gig when you need it? Size/weight maybe wouldn't matter as much. Maybe they could haul a 2x15 cab (or whatever choice you made) when you need it. Keep your amp at home with a small cab for practice/rehearsal.
Let us know what you decide and how your new rig sounds.
Good luck.
Hmmm, for the same weight I could get a schroeder 212L.
Options, options!
I'm driving myself crazy thinking about this. I think I need to heed your sig quote and get on with making music...
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I play bass guitar and double bass in different professional and non-professional settings: jazz, musical theatre, a rock band, etc.
I own the Euphonic Audio Wizzy 12 and the Bag End S15-D. I've played them both separately on bass guitar and double bass gigs powered by a Gallien-Krueger 400RB and an Acoustic Image Clarus. They're both well made, light, articulate, and reasonably priced. They also deliver a lot of sound relative to their size.
The Wizzy is a small box with a 4-ohm 12" driver and Euphonic Audio's "Whizzer" cone. Mine has a solid black finish with recessed plastic handles, Speakon & 1/4" combo jacks, and weighs in around 30 lbs. It's extremely easy to move around--I've often carried it in one hand--and feels solid. The sound is well-defined, very natural and pleasant with nice low end presence. I've used it on jazz and theatre gigs and while I've never had to crank it, I suspect it can get quite loud with enough power. Of course, there's only so much a 12" speaker can do. Unfortunately, mine stopped working right before a gig for no apparent reason. I brought it to a rehearsal and was playing at low volume with no distortion or anything and it just stopped making noise altogether. I believe it's an electrical problem though I haven't had time to check it out yet. I bought it used over the Internet so it's possible that UPS or the previous owner caused some internal damage. The Wizzy seems to be built tough and I don't think this is a normal occurance at all; in fact, I've never heard of anyody having problems with the Wizzy.
The Bag End S15-D is a small rear-ported box with a 15" speaker, nice solid wood cabinet with plastic corners, deep red colored carpeting, spring-loaded handles, 1/4" jacks, and weighs about 45 lbs. It feels extremely solid but I cannot lug this thing across any distance without too much trouble unless I use both hands. The S15-D is super-punchy: it doesn't have huge low end but the mids are wonderful and it is responsive to equalization. I find that the S15 sounds aggressive and "in-your-face" solo but it sits nicely in a mix. It's the most articulate 15" speaker cabinet I've heard and it's really loud.
I own the Euphonic Audio Wizzy 12 and the Bag End S15-D. I've played them both separately on bass guitar and double bass gigs powered by a Gallien-Krueger 400RB and an Acoustic Image Clarus. They're both well made, light, articulate, and reasonably priced. They also deliver a lot of sound relative to their size.
The Wizzy is a small box with a 4-ohm 12" driver and Euphonic Audio's "Whizzer" cone. Mine has a solid black finish with recessed plastic handles, Speakon & 1/4" combo jacks, and weighs in around 30 lbs. It's extremely easy to move around--I've often carried it in one hand--and feels solid. The sound is well-defined, very natural and pleasant with nice low end presence. I've used it on jazz and theatre gigs and while I've never had to crank it, I suspect it can get quite loud with enough power. Of course, there's only so much a 12" speaker can do. Unfortunately, mine stopped working right before a gig for no apparent reason. I brought it to a rehearsal and was playing at low volume with no distortion or anything and it just stopped making noise altogether. I believe it's an electrical problem though I haven't had time to check it out yet. I bought it used over the Internet so it's possible that UPS or the previous owner caused some internal damage. The Wizzy seems to be built tough and I don't think this is a normal occurance at all; in fact, I've never heard of anyody having problems with the Wizzy.
The Bag End S15-D is a small rear-ported box with a 15" speaker, nice solid wood cabinet with plastic corners, deep red colored carpeting, spring-loaded handles, 1/4" jacks, and weighs about 45 lbs. It feels extremely solid but I cannot lug this thing across any distance without too much trouble unless I use both hands. The S15-D is super-punchy: it doesn't have huge low end but the mids are wonderful and it is responsive to equalization. I find that the S15 sounds aggressive and "in-your-face" solo but it sits nicely in a mix. It's the most articulate 15" speaker cabinet I've heard and it's really loud.
Yes, you need to make a decision but w/o hearing the cabs it may be an expensive process. Maybe start another thread with your cabinets of choice and ask for reviews by TB'rs who actually own the cabs or have heard them.
Some of the bass cab vendors have a return policy so that if you don't like it, return it, no questions asked.
Yes this is a problem I've encountered. Here in Madison we don't have a lot to choose from. And so you either buy the 3 things available or you take your chances.
Since I'm also in the market for a cabinet I'm hoping that the upcoming GTG will give me a chance to try at least some of the cabinets I'm interested in.
Would be nice if there was some sort of bass co-op where you could borrow amps/cabs for just this sort of thing.
Your biggest problem, it seems, is the weight issue. Guitar Center in New Brunswick on 18 has a Markbass Little Mark2 head and a 2x10 Travler cabinet. I tried them together and I walked around with the Traveler and I don't think you will think that the system is too heavy.Guitar Center has a very good return policy. And although you don't dig the yellow and black color combo, you can bring that home and use it a starting point. From a reference point, you can sometimes make easier decisions. It really won't cost u any thing unless you end up keeping it. BTW, I don't think that the 210 Traveler has the yellow. And its pretty loud.
