onstage FAIL

Discussion in 'Bass Humor & Gig Stories [BG]' started by Smooth_bass88, May 31, 2021.

  1. DWBass

    DWBass The Funkfather

    10 pc horn band. We had a guitarist. He was reading too.
  2. OregonJim


    Apr 3, 2021
    Playboy doesn't count :)
  3. Thank Buddha - the majority of the crowd did not chime in the Sight reading vs Playing by Ear? thread.

    Back to the OP why is this fail? Did he freeze and not play correctly.

    Usually, for effective sight reading standard notation you need a page turner controlled by your feet. Something like https://www.amazon.com/Moukey-Wireless-Turner-Tablets-Rechargeable/dp/B07HQ96MYV - So yeah Pron makes sense. :D
  4. iammr2


    Jun 10, 2002
    That also happens when I argue with my wife.
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  5. MikePlaysBass


    Oct 3, 2011
    That’s the way the Pros do it. You put a call out for local musicians through the union. They show up the day of the gig for a rehearsal before the show where they mark up the sheet music with any changes and then they read for the gig. Not all artists travel with all the musicians. They pick up horns or other players at the local areas they play at. They do the same thing when a band member gets sick or can’t play and the show must go on. Wedding bands typically have players they can call last minute or go though the union. They have a contract to honor and they have to deliver. That’s way beyond my skill level, but it’s not uncommon at all.
    I have played a couple of low key weddings over the years (not in an official wedding band). The pay was good, but between the obligatory songs and their requests for several of their favorite songs, etc…, a lot of the setlist were songs that were new to me and I was only going to play once. I used charts for all of them (on a music stand and not up in my face, though).
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  6. dlb1001


    Jan 30, 2007
    Did a low key wedding last year. I thought I had everything memorized but I ended getting lost in the song for the father/daughter dance...I had charts but moved them to side since the band was placed by the entrance, where there was a breeze that kept blowing the charts off the stand.
    Didn't help that the BL decided swap the chorus and verse in the last moment...she wasn't a big fan of the song.
  7. dalkowski

    dalkowski Supporting Member

    May 20, 2009
    Massachusetts USofA
    He's playing a gig. I ain't judging.
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  8. OregonMike


    Jul 7, 2020
    I'm pretty sure she was.
  9. Absolutely, no one knows the situation behind the photo.

    Seems amazingly arrogant to post it to poke fun at it for 9 pages now and not knowing that. Not how I would play a gig either, but not my gig.
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  10. mexicanyella


    Feb 16, 2015
    Troy, MO
    I’m not arrogant, just generally self-amused and going for laughs and acceptance from my perceived peer group.
  11. MikePlaysBass


    Oct 3, 2011
    You can buy these really long clips for holding music pages from places that sell wind instruments or orchestral supplies either in the store or online. I got mine online from Johnson Strings. Ive only needed them a couple times, but they more than paid for themselves in not making a fool of myself with papers flying in the wind and and being totally lost. They're like very long close pins, but one side is clear. They work better than rubber bands or any other clips I've tried. For single sheets, they also make pushpin type rare earth magnets that will hold up to a few pages very tight against a metal music stand. I usually just use the clear sheet protectors in a thin binder and don't need clips, but there was one outdoor that was even blowing those pages over, so I ordered the sheet music clips after that.
    iPads are great for convenience, but paper is easier to read and so much easier to pencil in last minute changes like skipping sections, adding measures, changing a DS or DC directive, or using totally different chords or a modulation for the ending after the Coda. That's the one time when even the best memorization can really mess you up, when the band leader the day of the gig says to change a few chords in measures 17 and 23.
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  12. OregonJim


    Apr 3, 2021
    Plus, you don't have to worry if your paper is charged enough to last through the gig. Or worry about someone stealing your paper. Or having your paper generate RF interference that messes with your signal chain. Or having your paper crash or reboot in the middle of verse 2. Or dropping your paper on a concrete floor and breaking it. Or...
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  13. lordradish

    lordradish Supporting Member

    Jul 20, 2006
    I agree... in this case, though, the 'locals' were Larry Carlton and Billy Cobham... who were also looking at charts.
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  14. Robscott


    Mar 20, 2017
    Tonbridge UK
    I think you'll find that is the voice in your head
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  15. turf3


    Sep 26, 2011
    Bunch of amateurs. They should let the Talkbass pundits tell them how to do it. I bet at least one of them was wearing shorts, too.
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  16. RichSnyder

    RichSnyder Gold Supporting Member Supporting Member

    Jun 19, 2003
    I carry 1600 charts in my iPad and if someone wants a song that I don't have, I can pull it up from online sources. 1600 charts would be what, like 10 Real Books? That wouldn't fit in my gig bag. ForScore lets me put any notes in that I want and I can Air Drop a PDF to someone that may have forgotten a chart. I've been using iPads for 10+ years now and it's so much more convenient than paper. YMMV.
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  17. MikePlaysBass


    Oct 3, 2011
    I also have an iPad with every Realbook and lots of other sheet music on it. I still prefer paper for gigs, though, but do keep the iPad in my gig bag for requests. The band I’m in makes all kinds of changes at rehearsals for intros, endings, whether to change tempos on certain sections, etc… Some of the lead sheets can have cross-outs, arrows to follow, alternate chords. The App I use does allow mark up, but it’s limited in what it can do and the changes can come really fast to try to capture, so paper is much easier and faster for the planned tunes.
    I encourage bands to not do requests unless someone drops a $20 in the tip jar or it’s a special occasion or whatever. Two reasons: 1) They don’t always come off that well if everyone doesn’t know them. ( I was in a band with a keyboard player that would take any requests anyone asked for. If we didn’t know it, he’d just tell us to follow along. It often worked, but we also had some epic fails with tunes that changed keys or did unpredictable things)
    2) If you tell the requester that you don’t all know it that well, but will definitely add it to your setlist for the next time you play there, you’re doing some smart marketing.
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  18. Eilif

    Eilif Holding it down in K-Town. Supporting Member

    Oct 1, 2001
    No shoes, baggy pants, ill-fitting polo and RTF (Resting Tablet Face). This poor fellow is a stage disaster.

    The last 3.5 years playing off a tablet I always placed it low and looked at it as rarely as possible. I also wore sunglasses so the audience couldn't tell when I was really focused on the tablet, but that's not an option for everyone.
  19. Robscott


    Mar 20, 2017
    Tonbridge UK
    Yep, requests can be a real problem. We never do them unless someone asks us to......
  20. Pops OB

    Pops OB

    Nov 4, 2016
    We take requests all the time. Nothing wrong with that at all.

    Oh, wait, you said “do” requests... No, that we don’t do.
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