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Organ into bass amp?
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Agreed, don't even try messing with a leslie connection unless you know what you're doing. There are different types of leslies and connectors, and some don't play well together at all.
It sounded like he just wanted to plug it into a guitar amp, though. A 1/4" jack can usually be wired without too much trouble, but again, if you know what you're doing and have a schematic.
It sounded like he just wanted to plug it into a guitar amp, though. A 1/4" jack can usually be wired without too much trouble, but again, if you know what you're doing and have a schematic.
Although you're right about Jon Lord, Emerson did use both Hiwatts and later marshalls for his organs
Post pictures, my roommate is a Hammond Tech (amongst other things), I can show him and he could provide the lowdown
could be a speaker out, swell pedal connection, but I doubt it is a line out, unless it was added by a previous owner.
Open it up, if that jack is wired to the red & green posts of the preamp, then it is a line out. if not, probably speaker out or something.
hook it up to a speaker, see if it makes noise!
Open it up, if that jack is wired to the red & green posts of the preamp, then it is a line out. if not, probably speaker out or something.
hook it up to a speaker, see if it makes noise!
All I could find yesterday was 9512 which doesn't bring up any info really.
I am pretty sure it's a spinet organ from the mid 70's or so.
Will take some pics and possibly open it up.
Like I said I have an old cheap guitar amp I have no attachment too so I might test it out with that.
Post some pics before connecting the amp. Why risk destroying it.
The damage you could theoretically do could go both ways. In other words, you could damage the amp OR THE ORGAN.
Why don't you take just a second and pause. Just saying to yourself "That's an output of some kind and I have an amp with an input on it. What could go wrong?" is just silly. Put your desire for instant gratification away and do more research rather than "Heck yeah! Go for it!"
That being said, I'm sure you won't take this advice so I have one request. Please give me your word that you will video your little experiment and post the results here. I like a good train wreck as much as the next guy.
Seriously, don't be "Dare Me Bro".
Don't worry I am in no rush to endanger any of my gear. Though I got the organ for 80$ in need of repair and the amp was free.
I just am interested in testing it out and that seems like the "safest" way of doing it. I already need to fix up the organ anyways.
Honestly even if it is the right output the organ works so finicky that something could be wrong with it and it could cause damage anyways.
I just am interested in testing it out and that seems like the "safest" way of doing it. I already need to fix up the organ anyways.
Honestly even if it is the right output the organ works so finicky that something could be wrong with it and it could cause damage anyways.
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It was Hiwatt ... he used Hiwatt heads to drive a leslie ... I don't know how that works ...
Keith Emerson's gear
It's not too difficult to wire up, really. Once you have a 1/4" output from the organ, just plug that into the Hiwatt head, then connect the speaker output directly into the Leslie crossover, bypassing the Leslie's internal amp. The Leslie amp really does sound great, especially when overdriven, but it's kind of anemic. Lots of keyboardists upgrade the speaker and horn driver in their Leslie with JBL or similar components, then drive them with an external tube head. Lots of variations, possible, I'm sure, including bi-amping with multiple heads, etc.
The reason I mentioned Jon Lord is that he's most well-known for his extreme overdriven Hammond/Marshall sound and NO Leslie.
I don't see anything identical on there, may be one of the ones without pictures.
This one is closest:
Maverick 1973–1975[54] Middle-priced all-tab spinet organ.
Mine doesn't have the top center row of buttons and the tone switches on the left are a bit different.
Mine also has a drum machine in the bottom left where this one has more toneswitches.
Well, definitely not a tonewheel Hammond. I seriously doubt there's any readily available information on adding a 1/4" output jack. You might be able to just wire a 1/4" jack in parallel with the speaker terminals and use that. I'm pretty sure that will work, although I can't say if the results will be optimal, or even pleasing.
So I just remembered I actually have an old guidebook for playing the organ and some of it's specs.
I guess I have one of the 9000 series, the 9100 or 9200 or even the 9500 possibly. I think the latter based on the controls. Mine has a cassette recorder which only the 9500 series has I believe. According to the guide there is a headphone jack, power output, and remote tone cabinet socket for a Leslie 710 tone cab.
It also says the organ uses 1 12", 1 8" for acoustic trem and a 6" speaker which is just in the 9500.
The headhpone jack seems the most likely but I don't see the other outputs anywhere, maybe they are internal.
I guess I have one of the 9000 series, the 9100 or 9200 or even the 9500 possibly. I think the latter based on the controls. Mine has a cassette recorder which only the 9500 series has I believe. According to the guide there is a headphone jack, power output, and remote tone cabinet socket for a Leslie 710 tone cab.
It also says the organ uses 1 12", 1 8" for acoustic trem and a 6" speaker which is just in the 9500.
The headhpone jack seems the most likely but I don't see the other outputs anywhere, maybe they are internal.
Great! If it has a Leslie output, that looks like a tube socket. It's probably somewhere around the back, I would think. Don't mess with that unless you want to get a 710 Leslie or research compatible models. The headphone jack would seem to be the best place to start. Worst thing that could happen is the level might not be enough to drive the amp acceptably.
I've run a keyboard into a bass amp for years (one of the many reasons I prefer a very clean bass head!). As for a real Hammond - well, give it a whirl!
I don't see anything on the back, actually I found the leslie socket hiding by the bottom corner. I wish I could afford a leslie cab. one has been up locally on Craigslist for weeks for lie 600-700$ or so...
Been meaning to inquire about an at least partial trade, one day maybe I will find a budget clone or something.Would the power output by internal most likely? I am not seeing that anywhere but it makes more sense the headphone jack would be easier to access.
I stick my organ into my bass amp all the time.. !! drool it's true !!
Actually it s a bass synth pedal.
Actually it s a bass synth pedal.
You don't need a "power" output, just plug 1/4" cable in and go.
Here's a guide to Leslie models:
Leslie model guide
If you can find a 710, it looks to be not too bad a model. nice wood cabinet, and rotating horn, albeit with a stationary bass speaker, but the spinning horn is about 2/3 of the sound anyway, so that's a good thing. It shows that it uses a type "9" interface. Presumably, any other model shown that uses that interface would just plug right in. To retrofit it for another model, you'd need to dig deep into the arcane subject of Leslie interfaces. Good Leslies aren't cheap, though. A 122 or 147 (the most commonly used models) can set you back well over $1,000. No telling how common a 710 is, but if you find one, it's likely to be a lot cheaper.
Here's a guide to Leslie models:
Leslie model guide
If you can find a 710, it looks to be not too bad a model. nice wood cabinet, and rotating horn, albeit with a stationary bass speaker, but the spinning horn is about 2/3 of the sound anyway, so that's a good thing. It shows that it uses a type "9" interface. Presumably, any other model shown that uses that interface would just plug right in. To retrofit it for another model, you'd need to dig deep into the arcane subject of Leslie interfaces. Good Leslies aren't cheap, though. A 122 or 147 (the most commonly used models) can set you back well over $1,000. No telling how common a 710 is, but if you find one, it's likely to be a lot cheaper.
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