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Origin Effects BASSRIG

#341
I'm using the 64 and comparing it to my Kingsley maiden bf at the moment. The 64 sounds more open (less compressed) but I can get a bit more compression with the drive turned up a bit. I find the eq section almost useless without drive incorporated. It seems to bring in more tonal range, even when putting it at 9:00.

So far I like it. Will it beat out the Kingsley? Will it beat out the blackbird? Experimentation, and probably @scubaduba, will tell.
 
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#346
Tempted to swap out my Darkglass Vintage Ultra for the BassRig Vintage, but I'm afraid I'd miss the IR loader. I use various drives and distortions in front, so I'm not sure an all-analog cab sim will sound as good.

I'll be keeping an eye on the demos popping up, that's for sure.
 
#347
I have a few super quick early impressions (by no means decisions) on the Super Vintage vs. the SV-pre. Method: About 45 minutes of A/Bing last night with a Pbass, rounds, going direct to in-ears, solo only.

Super Vintage: range of tone is all usable. Hard to find a tone that wasn't great. Drive sounds are so so good across the range (I use drive all the time) and plays with fuzz & other drives well. Feels like a more polished sound than the SV-Pre. Note: I've never played with a cab sim before, so this piece is throwing me for a loop tone wise trying to understand. I don't know why I've waited so long on cab sims!

SV-Pre: Seemed slightly less compressed and more raw. When run through the Origin's cab sim, had a clarity and rawness that the Super Vintage did not. Gain wasn't as usable (I've always found it farts out uselessly on me in the higher ranges), and sounded a *tad* grainier. Where the SV-Pre shined was engaging the low switch. That low thud can get pretty punchy and I couldn't re-create that on the Origin unit. Perhaps could if I spent more time with it, but it was a powerful difference when engaged. Note: When not run through the cab sim, the difference between the SV-Pre and Super Vintage were laughable. If I kept the SV-Pre, a cab-sim is now a must! :facepalm:

IF I HAD TO PICK RIGHT NOW after 45 minutes of A/Bing in a non-band context (so basically I'm saying my opinions are so far useless), I'd go Super Vintage because it seems like an overall more polished sound, more useable gain range, and the cab sim makes it. But, I'm not ready to give up on the SV-Pre and am looking forward to continuing to A/B and I think it would be important to put these to the test in a band context.
 
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#348
So, I've had the '64 for a few days now.

So far it definitely makes both of my amps sound better using the amp out (Aguilar TH and GK MB), and actually works well for bringing the Fender sound to my guitar amps too! I've found I can finally get the highs I've always wanted out of my Tonehammer, and it made me realize the lows I was missing as well!
One note is when you crank up the highs w/ the amp out it can sort of sound brittle (or just high-mid scooped), but bringing up the mids really smooths things out in a nice way, not at all like the usual mid boosting sound. It's all very musical.

For recording I will definitely love the DI out for the very nice old-school warmth, and musical low end it brings. It does all 60s, lo-fi, etc. excellently. I probably won't use the DI (cab sim) for super hi-fi sounds as it does lose you some high end with the pedal/cab sim engaged. For that the amp out works nicely.

For live use I can't decide if I'll use it DI to board, because I don't yet know how many sound engineers will feel about the baked in tone of the cab sim. But I will at least bring it to either use for my (or backline) amp tone, or as a clean DI w/ the pedal off, if needed. For the rare in-ear gigs I do, I imagine the full preamp xlr w/ cab sim will be great.

Time will tell if live and studio engineers will love or hate the cab sim situation on these. I think they'll love the sound and low end content, but not sure since some are more used to dealing with the usual sterile DI sounds. Again, time will tell and I'm sure any good sound tech can work with it.

One thing I've noticed - there is a mild hiss from the amp out that increases with output/blend, and can be slightly remedied by using the 2k or 4k cut. Does anyone else notice this? Is it normal @Origin_Effects ?
It's not worse than some effect pedals I own, just slightly annoying because it's heard through the amp, and DI from the amp which was previously totally silent. It is absolutely not noticeable in a mix, I'm just making sure it's not me, or my specific pedal having an issue. It does this powered with my 1 spot and mxr iso-brick, in case that's the problem.

Overall I'm loving this pedal, and can't wait to use it on upcoming shows and sessions. I'll try to remember to update with feedback I get from sound folks in the coming weeks.
 
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#354
ColoRADoKT said:
In DI use, correct.

I didn't mess with the amp out yet so I wasn't paying attention last night to whether or not there was a way to disengage cab sim while using amp out. My guess is that there's not. Anyone else chime in?
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There is no cab sim on the amp out, only DI when engaged, or DI when disengaged with the bypass+fx switch on.
 
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#356
Les Fret said:
What do you mean. What are the differences and why is it laughable?
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Without the cab sim the SV-Pre sounded clearly thinner and more sterile when directly A/B'ed.

But we have to be fair - cab sim vs. no cab sim will of course directly change the sound, and, I was only hearing through IEM's direct. Cold, sterile methodology itself. I have never thought of the SV-Pre to be thin and sterile so I'm sure that's more of a function of just how the A/B testing went, kind of unfair in that regard.
 
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#357
ColoRADoKT said:
Without the cab sim the SV-Pre sounded clearly thinner and more sterile when directly A/B'ed.

But we have to be fair - cab sim vs. no cab sim will of course directly change the sound, and, I was only hearing through IEM's direct. Cold, sterile methodology itself. I have never thought of the SV-Pre to be thin and sterile so I'm sure that's more of a function of just how the A/B testing went, kind of unfair in that regard.
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Did you find the clean blend on the SV to be an advantage at all? Or did you leave it at 100%?
 

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