outlets/conditioners

[MikeGee]

The Audio Engineering Society is the largest professional organization of audio and acoustical engineers and it does not recognize the need for external power conditioning when the internal device power supply is sufficient to do the job. In the vast majority of cases, it is. The only device recognized to do a significantly better job is a balanced AC line transformer, installed at the service entrance, connected to the 110v-0-110v supply, transforming it to 55v-0-55v balanced power. Cheap it ain't, nor is it portable.
I do know how to explain it. Using two heads you had a ground loop, which plugging into the M8Dx corrected. BTW, the M8Dx isn't a power conditioner, it's a filtered power strip with a fancy digital voltage readout. One of the 15A filters shown here, or the equivalent, is what it uses:
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Most quality gear today already contains that same level of line filtering, or better.

None of the items I listed was used with another. All was used separate. They weren't even present on the same day.

 

[MikeGee]

Nah, I was talking about Mr. boynamedsuse...you've been around for a year now...the smell of new has worn off.

Oh. I fell new when there are people that have thousands of posts.

 

[billfitzmaurice]

None of the items I listed was used with another. All was used separate. They weren't even present on the same day.

Your post said "I was using a Ibanez combo, zoom pedal w/di out 2 different heads". If all you were running was a single amp and the Furman made it better that means that single amp lacked $10 worth of filtering. I wouldn't build an amp like that, and I know Bob doesn't, but some companies do.

 

[MikeGee]

Your post said "I was using a Ibanez combo, zoom pedal w/di out 2 different heads", If all you were running was a single amp and the Furman made it better that means that single amp lacked $10 worth of filtering. I wouldn't build an amp like that, and I know Bob doesn't, but some companies do.

Ok? My bad, didn't make that part clear.

 

[My name is Mudd]

One thing I've not seen mentioned is whether under-powered is a danger, in the same way that computer systems are vulnerable to power sags as well as surges. Would my amps be damaged by a power sag?

 

[billfitzmaurice]

Would my amps be damaged by a power sag?

No. Besides, power conditioners with voltage leveling circuitry don't have adequate current capability to handle amps. That fact is why amp manufacturers specifically state that you should not use them.
As to the situation with computers, computer manufacturers could have made external conditioners/filters/surge protectors unnecessary, but the $10-$20 parts cost is deemed excessive in a market that is price driven to the extreme. Power conditioners hardly existed prior to the PC, and sound gear suffered no higher a failure rate nor any worse performance in the preceding 70 odd years that they went naked into the world.