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overdrive/fuzz quest

i haven't really dialed them in perfectly yet, but here's a couple of quick clips of my two favorites thus far, using my custom ric 325 bass (avatar pic) w/ daddario chrome flats thru my SVT7pro. the first part is bypassed and the second part is with the O/D on (sorry for the clams!):

Catalinbread SFT

Fulltone '69

the '69 was a little nastier but, to me, sounds more like an amp about to blow up (which i think is a good thing). i didn't use that much 'drive' on either one of them to keep it more of a 'dirty but driven' type of sound.
 
my Dallas Arbiter Fuzz face and '78 Big Muff just don't track the low notes well enough so no need to post sound clips of them, but IMO, the VT Bass pedal has a nice overdrive/fuzz sound and the TC Nova Drive isn't too bad but i need to spend more time with it. here's a couple of clips of them:

VT Bass pedal

TC Nova Drive
 
johnk I always like ur clips dude! That 69 sounds pretty sweet

thanks man!
yeah, the '69 has an explosive attack that makes it so much more raw and punchy that all of my other ones, yet it still has some clarity and note definition/articulation. when the amp is cranked, it sounds like 'the calm before the storm' (i.e. like the amp's getting pushed so hard that it's going to blow up!).
 
Well this is thread number 2 of yours I've sub'd in the last week. (SVT7) I think we are on the same path as of late. I will be getting a 7pro because of you. But as far as overdrive I just picked up a MXR M84 fuzz deluxe for the full on kind of stuff. It has clean/wet channel knobs. I like the SFT. How does it do with an active bass. Maybe a clip with that 'ray of yours that I love so much. If it sounds good I might get one and leave it on all the time. You might have explaining to do my wife if you keep these kinds of super informative threads. They are much appreciated as I'm stationed in Italy at the moment and can't go to a store and try all this gear out.
 
here's an update for my dirt/orverdrive pedal quest............

i've been experimenting further with trying to get my perfect overdriven bass tone and i'm ALOT closer, and possibly have acheived exactly what i i was looking for.

i used the Catalinbread SFT on the gig last weekend and it worked really well. it was very smooth and syrupy, however it did slightly alter (cut) the low end, and i used it in front of the amp since i used the red ripper in the loop of my SVT7Pro for another song. i did miss having a blend control for the SFT, since i would have liked to have been able to dial in a little clean low end punch but it did work well regardless. sometimes cutting a little lows can help you cut through in a mix, but i still missed having them.

so today, i wanted to see if i could try the SFT in the loop. what i found out is that when it's in the loop, it's out of phase with the dry input signal making the blend control unuseable since when it's set at 50/50 blend the signal drops way down. and even blending it in a little wreaks havoc with the girth and punch of the tone. i've found that many, if not most, distortion pedals make your signal out phase. now i could build a tiny active buffer that would invert the signal but i decided to try something else. i pulled out my aphex bass exciter pedal and found that it also reverses the phase, and while i could use it to just reverse the phase back to match the dry signal without adding any color by keeping the blend controls at zero, i used its exctier to restore the low end of the SFT by dialing in the frequency and amount of low end that the SFT cuts.

to do it, i just patched the send into the SFT's input, then went out of the SFT into the aphex back to the return of the loop. by turning the blend control to hear the dry signal only and then rotating it back and forth to compare it to the wet signal, i set the SFT at the minimum drive (clean) with it's treble and bass controls at noon and used the aphex to restore the low end so the dry matched the wet signal's tone exactly, and the aphex actually did a better job of it than using an eq in the loop. then i dialed in some gain/grit of the SFT to have a bit more dirt that i'd use and adjusted the blend control to dial in the amount of SFT into the dry signal. it worked perfect and sounds awesome now!

i also got a Seymour Duncan SFX-11 twin tube on friday, and i really like how it sounds on a guitar. on a bass, it also cuts some of the low end (as almost every guitar distortion pedal does) and it is also out of phase in the loop. so i did the same thing by running the SFX-11 into the aphex and WOW, it really sounds nice, with either of it's two distortion modes, and i actually prefer it over the SFT. right now, when used with the aphex, i'm thinking that this just may be the perfect overdrive pedal for me, although it is somewhat more of a hassle since it's big, and i have to run it into another pedal to get what i want, but man is it good. ;)

another pedal that i messed around with was my old TS9. now these pedals are known for really cutting the lows and boosting the mids, but i modded mine last night with a switch to make it both a bass overdrive and have the option of running it stock. it sounds pretty darn good with a bass after the mod, and the funny this is, it ISN'T out of phase in the loop.

in my fuzz/OD quest, i have a few of other pedals on their way to me including a Bad Monkey (which i'm going to mod for bass like i did the TS9), and an MXR blowtorch (since i liked it when i demo'd one a while ago), but what has me the most excited is the Greedtone overdrive that i purchased this morning. i considered getting a darkglass B3K and i still might get one (once my budget recovers) to see if it's my cup of tea, but they seem a little brighter (and more scooped) than what i'm looking for and the Greedtone appears to be the one that i'v always been looking for, but i'll have to wait til the end of the week to know that after it gets here..............

sorry for the long read but that's what can happen when one talks about tone and overdrives.
 
I think I'm pretty set on pedals but I know where your coming from john when you have that "quest" for a certain sound. I have a couple pedal demos on my sound cloud account thats linked in my sig if you fancy. And I'm at your disposal for any recording of any bass/amp/pedal combo I have in my profile. We have "some" of the same tastes :) To note: I demoed my OD's on my sound cloud account, Fuzzrocious Rat Tail and DOD 250RI.
 
I think I'm pretty set on pedals but I know where your coming from john when you have that "quest" for a certain sound. I have a couple pedal demos on my sound cloud account thats linked in my sig if you fancy. And I'm at your disposal for any recording of any bass/amp/pedal combo I have in my profile. We have "some" of the same tastes :) To note: I demoed my OD's on my sound cloud account, Fuzzrocious Rat Tail and DOD 250RI.

hey thanks. yeah since distortion and OD pedal are such a personal taste type of thing, IMO, that'why there are so many different brands/kinds/types of them, and they've really gotten popular for us bassist in recent years.

IMO, that DOD 250RI sounds really good and i thinki like the W&C phat phuk even more. i just have to get one of each. ;)
 
I have had a dirt pedal with my bass rigs since day one ;) and working on 17+ years with a dirty bass obsession. LOL

Also a couple gigs ago I had a bass playing buddy of mine sit in on a couple songs. I had my '79 Ric>DOD 250>V4b>'73 810, 3 words "Oh My God" And the DOD is so cheap its silly, $50 used and tons of mods floating around. Mine stock sounds just fine for me.
 
I have had a dirt pedal with my bass rigs since day one ;) and working on 17+ years with a dirty bass obsession. LOL

Also a couple gigs ago I had a bass playing buddy of mine sit in on a couple songs. I had my '79 Ric>DOD 250>V4b>'73 810, 3 words "Oh My God" And the DOD is so cheap its silly, $50 used and tons of mods floating around. Mine stock sounds just fine for me.

well your's sounds great stock and if they all sound like that, if i get one, i wouldn't mod mine either,
 
Johnk I was a big fan of the Fulltone OCD but it lost some mojo with it on in the tone. The OD was great though. So I just ordered a Fuzzrocious Oh See Demon since I heard from a good source they are awesome. Just like an OCD but with a low mid bump instead of a high mid bump. That might be a pedal worth looking at too. Oh yea and you need like your own column on TB since everyone follows our post lol!
 
to give you an idea of how they sound in the loop,here's some clips of the SFT, and then Twin Tube Blue with the aphex exciter in the loop of the SVT7Pro. on the TwinTube clips there are two different distortion channels so they have the first part recorded dry, then, Dist1, followed by Dist2:

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got a few more pedals today and yesterday (Greedtone, MXR Blowtorch, a Bad Monkey and a Digitech bassdriver), and a few more on the way (Big Muff Bass Fuzz, Iron Ether Oxide and a W&C Pickle Pie B).

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at first i hated the blowtorch (and i was going to send it back), but after messing with it, i got it to sound really good. it's best feature is that it's super punchy ( but IMO, it's just a bit too 'fizzy' to be perfect). it also does make a nice clean boost to overdrive the front end of my amps if i don't use any of its distortion and have the blend control fully CCW.

IMO, the bad monkey is a pretty good distortion for guitar but it cuts so much low end and boosts the mids that i immediately modded it with a bass boostswitch and a three way stock/scoop1 and scoop2 (more scoop) switch.

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IMO, it sounds really good for bass now and is pretty versatile with all of the new settings.................

the Greedtone is pretty awesome. for me , the 'more/less' switch has to be set on 'less' since iit's just too midrangy in the 'more mode' but it sounds HUGE in the 'less' mode.