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Phil Lesh Appreciation Society: Enter the Philzone...

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wisconsindead said:
DP 15 was my first Dicks Picks. Its a classic show with a multitude of highlights. That NFA is a smoker
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I have a good portion of this one on bootleg vinyl from several decades ago. Later, once the Archive first opened up and Bettyboards showed up, I downloaded it. In my mind it rivals the Barton show and a number of other classics.

I get frustrated at the fact that they're slowly making many quality boards inaccessible that were once easy to access. Especially, like in the case of the full Europe 72 tour, where it was a limited edition, expensive and now none of those shows are up anymore (or the Winterland 69 run, or the Winterland 74 Run, etc.).
 
#843
I agree bout 9/3/77. I would very well pick it over 5/8/77 (though choosing to not hear that dew would be tough, what a monster!). My all time favorite half-step, its perfect. And I hear ya on releases. Just gotta torrent or hang around kind folks at GD forums to help ya out with it...
 
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wisconsindead said:
I agree bout 9/3/77. I would very well pick it over 5/8/77 (though choosing to not hear that dew would be tough, what a monster!). My all time favorite half-step, its perfect. And I hear ya on releases. Just gotta torrent or hang around kind folks at GD forums to help ya out with it...
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I'm very computer literate, but haven't ever tried to wrap my head around the torrent scene. I should probably figure that out. For me, with the exception of some 85'ish shows and some 87's (both during the era I was going to shows) I top out in 81 in terms of interest and appeal.
 
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I'm pretty new to torrenting myself, always relied on others to give me shows. And I predominately hang around fall 71 - spring 73. Though I really love it all. Spring 1990!?! summer 89?!?!

even some 94 gems...
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Morning Dew (2nd longest version ever)
https://archive.org/details/gd1994-03-27.daud.unLDed.4851.shnf

Have you listened to the most recent daves picks 8 (1980-11-30)? Its pretty killer all around. Awesome scarlet > fire.
 
#846
wisconsindead said:
I'm pretty new to torrenting myself, always relied on others to give me shows. And I predominately hang around fall 71 - spring 73. Though I really love it all. Spring 1990!?! summer 89?!?!

even some 94 gems...
Stella Blue
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Morning Dew (2nd longest version ever)
https://archive.org/details/gd1994-03-27.daud.unLDed.4851.shnf

Have you listened to the most recent daves picks 8 (1980-11-30)? Its pretty killer all around. Awesome scarlet > fire.
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I have it but haven't listened yet. I have a pile of 'downloads' waiting to check out.
 
#847
spanndrew said:
I'm looking to get into the Dead, any recommendations for a album to start with?
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I'd recommend Europe '72 and American Beauty to anyone wanting to get into the Grateful Dead. Those are two albums that every music fan should own. And Live/Dead would be my 3rd pick. Barton Hall 5/8/77 is pretty much everyone's first (unauthorized) live recording... because it sounds great and '77 is a great year to get someone started out on the GD.

We have to remember that we've listened to this stuff for years, so we've grown accustomed to raw sounding live recordings with their hiss, pops, distortion, uneven levels and often less-than-stellar sound. That's why I shy away from recommending bootlegs to someone first getting into the GD, especially if they're used to listening to modern studio produced music.
 
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spacebassed said:
I'd recommend Europe '72 and American Beauty to anyone wanting to get into the Grateful Dead. Those are two albums that every music fan should own. And Live/Dead would be my 3rd pick. Barton Hall 5/8/77 is pretty much everyone's first (unauthorized) live recording... because it sounds great and '77 is a great year to get someone started out on the GD.

We have to remember that we've listened to this stuff for years, so we've grown accustomed to raw sounding live recordings with their hiss, pops, distortion, uneven levels and often less-than-stellar sound. That's why I shy away from recommending bootlegs to someone first getting into the GD, especially if they're used to listening to modern studio produced music.
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The studio album thing is interesting. So many different sounds over the years. American Beauty was my first, followed by Workingman's. Really like Wake of the Flood though and Mars Hotel. I also would rather listen to Reckoning than most any of the others.
 
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BurningSkies said:
The studio album thing is interesting. So many different sounds over the years. American Beauty was my first, followed by Workingman's. Really like Wake of the Flood though and Mars Hotel. I also would rather listen to Reckoning than most any of the others.
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I think Mars Hotel was my first purchase (it was the most recent at the time) followed by Aoxomoxoa.

The first one I was exposed to was Europe '72. It was left at my house in '73 by my little sister's babysitter. I took to it immediately and it was the first time I really listened to what was going on with the bass.
 
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spacebassed said:
I'd recommend Europe '72 and American Beauty to anyone wanting to get into the Grateful Dead. Those are two albums that every music fan should own. And Live/Dead would be my 3rd pick. Barton Hall 5/8/77 is pretty much everyone's first (unauthorized) live recording... because it sounds great and '77 is a great year to get someone started out on the GD.
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Maybe these days, but '69 Fillmore shows (either coast) on 3rd or 4th generation reel-to-reel tape were the starting point for many in my generation. ;)
 
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edwinhurwitz said:
I think Mars Hotel was my first purchase (it was the most recent at the time) followed by Aoxomoxoa.

The first one I was exposed to was Europe '72. It was left at my house in '73 by my little sister's babysitter. I took to it immediately and it was the first time I really listened to what was going on with the bass.
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I had a number of boots by the time I got my first actual album, so AB or WMD were anomalous to what I was used to hearing. I also had cassette dubs of Aoxomoxoa, Bear's, 'skull and roses'. I don't know if anyone remembers but I was buying these during an era that was roughly 83-88 and at that time, any of the 70's issued Grateful Dead Records albums were impossible to find and fairly expensive. I can still remember the pricing for these. A nice copy of Wake would run you 120$, Mars Hotel $45, Steal Your Face $60, Blues for Allah 40$ etc. I also have several copies of Ace (different covers), two copies of Wake, Two of Blues and a fairly complete run of the Garcia albums minus the very first (stolen). I also have Rolling Thunder and Kingfish, plus a few of Bob's solo releases.
 
#852
Passinwind said:
Maybe these days, but '69 Fillmore shows (either coast) on 3rd or 4th generation reel-to-reel tape were the starting point for many in my generation. ;)
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Great quality boots of the 60's or even most 70's era stuff was hard to come by. Most were multi-generations down the pipeline. I could get good quality modern (at that time) recordings pretty easily. It wasn't until the flood of Betties around 1990 that all of a sudden the stuff sounded GREAT.
 
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BurningSkies said:
The studio album thing is interesting. So many different sounds over the years. American Beauty was my first, followed by Workingman's. Really like Wake of the Flood though and Mars Hotel. I also would rather listen to Reckoning than most any of the others.
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I'm not at all saying that we shouldn't recommend live stuff, just that the officially released stuff may be a bit more palatable, especially Europe '72. Who doesn't like that record?!

It's easier to recommend stuff if you know the persons musical tastes. If it's someone who like punk, metal or any heavier music, I'd recommend Live/Dead. If they like early Dylan of folk-y stuff, I'd opt for Reckoning. If they like prog-rock or fusion, Blues for Allah, etc.

Your list is pretty similar to mine, after American Beauty, Workingman's...Wake of the Flood...Mars Hotel... Blues for Allah.... who am I kidding, just get it all. :D
 
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Passinwind said:
Maybe these days, but '69 Fillmore shows (either coast) on 3rd or 4th generation reel-to-reel tape were the starting point for many in my generation. ;)
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Some of us weren't even zygotes then, we get a pass. :p

American Beauty and Skeletons from the Closet were my first... straight from the pawn shop. Then Ladies and Gentlemen... (Fillmore '71) and Mars Hotel. Barton Hall was my first unofficial live recording. I think it's pretty much impossible to avoid that tape, even if you tried. It's the Frampton Comes Alive of Dead tapes.
 
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spacebassed said:
Some of us weren't even zygotes then, we get a pass. :p

American Beauty and Skeletons from the Closet were my first... straight from the pawn shop. Then Ladies and Gentlemen... (Fillmore '71) and Mars Hotel. Barton Hall was my first unofficial live recording. I think it's pretty much impossible to avoid that tape, even if you tried. It's the Frampton Comes Alive of Dead tapes.
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I'm old, I remember when Aoxomoxoa and Live Dead came out. One of the Skull and Roses dates was my first show -- 4/6/71. For me, the Pig and early post-Pig eras were and always will be it, but vive la difference.

Pretty sure my brother was at the Barton show, and I knew a taper very well back then who was as well. I probably caught Springfield a month before that, I think. As I said upthread, by the mid-70s I was way more into other musical and social scenes really. I think it's great that any of us can revisit pretty much any era at will nowadays though, with decent to great sound quality to boot.
 
#860
Passinwind said:
I'm old, I remember when Aoxomoxoa and Live Dead came out. One of the Skull and Roses dates was my first show -- 4/6/71. For me, the Pig and early post-Pig eras were and always will be it, but vive la difference.

Pretty sure my brother was at the Barton show, and I knew a taper very well back then who was as well. I probably caught Springfield a month before that, I think. As I said upthread, by the mid-70s I was way more into other musical and social scenes really. I think it's great that any of us can revisit pretty much any era at will nowadays though, with decent to great sound quality to boot.
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I missed the late 60s and early 70s but '76, '77, etc., was really fun. I caught 5/7/77, the night before Barton Hall and by three days later, 5/8 was already legendary.
 
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