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Professionals using a Squier

jamzilla said:
If we get right down to the nuts and bolts, MIA Fender American Standard Jazz basses are living off of their reputation. They're cheaply made, basically the exact same thing as a Squier. The only thing people buy them for is to show off in front of their friends. Made in America? Everyone knows that's a kiss of death, look at Chrysler for cryin out loud!

Don't get swindled into buying these overpriced pieces of junk and if by chance, you have sadly been duped by the FENDER USA marketing machine, I strongly advise you to go to the classified section of TB and sell your bass, now.

Let's say $300? You can buy a new Squier with it, I'll pay shipping............

Don't get fooled by the elitist snobs!!

I just found this out! went through 3 Mia fenders and was very disappointed in craftsmanship. returned it and bought a used mim '04 and saved a $1,000. it's better craftsmanship all around.
 
Cool story! I am about to finish customizing my Squier Affinity P Bass. Like I said somewhere else in this thread, I found the pickups to be weak, overall construction wasn't impressive (maybe that is why I started this thread...).

I went with a Badass Bass II bridge, Dimarzio PUs. Routed a spot for a J PU. Defretted the neck and inked it so it is jet black like an upright bass, new knobs...Sculpted the body in a woodshop so it looks more along the lines of an Ibanez/Schecter, reshaped the pickguard to fit the new aesthetics. Its ridiculous. Totally new bass.

Thanks for sharing your opinion. I am glad someone else realizes that Squiers may leave a lot to be desired. Maybe they are hit or miss?

On the topic of customizing and modding, it makes sense too that pros (and I kinda meant people in magazines) might play a Squier tweaked to their style and needs. My Affinity P Bass now has 400$ worth of mods...I hope it plays "OK" when I finish painting it and get a setup.

Cool, I hope so too. Let us know how it turns out.
 
I just found this out! went through 3 Mia fenders and was very disappointed in craftsmanship. returned it and bought a used mim '04 and saved a $1,000. it's better craftsmanship all around.

Another one disappointed with Fender quality of late...and with my "handle" that's a sad statement.

Looking at ordering parts for a couple of new P basses from Mighty Mite or Warmoth and paying a luthier to assemble them...in order to achieve quality results.

Unfortunately I don't have access to a woodshop like the OP (really crossing my fingers for the modded Squier to turn out ace).
 
Unfortunately I don't have access to a woodshop like the OP (really crossing my fingers for the modded Squier to turn out ace).


Yea I really don't take it for granted. My grandfather was a carpenter and had a shop in the garage. Now I am using the FSU woodshop in the art building basement (forgot if I clarified that or not).

I am about to graduate, so I thought, "well might as well get in there and use those saws"
 
FenderBassist said:
Another one disappointed with Fender quality of late...and with my "handle" that's a sad statement.

Looking at ordering parts for a couple of new P basses from Mighty Mite or Warmoth and paying a luthier to assemble them...in order to achieve quality results.

Unfortunately I don't have access to a woodshop like the OP (really crossing my fingers for the modded Squier to turn out ace).

I heard that the warmoth stuff is exceptional!
 
For example:
Andrew McKinney, a pro (bass player for funky brit outfit James Taylor Quartet) and a regular bass technics teacher, usually plays live - I, for the first, watched him like that at the Blue Note here in Milan, Italy - with Squier Classic Vibe Fiesta Red Precision.

Cheers,
Wallace
 
When I go into music stores these days I try and pick up a couple Squiers, maybe A/B them to a few real Fenders, don't usually have too, I have yet to play a Squier that stacks up to a Fender in terms of quality and playability, I will give them the tone argument on select basses, but that is mostly due to the pickups, something that is easily and most commonly changed. Tone has little to do with playability in my opinion as it can be changed far easier than a poorly finished neck, which all Squiers I have played have had...
 
I'm old enough to remember when only pre-CBS Fenders were "real" Fenders. The more things change, the more they stay the same.

Hey, guess what happened when the first reissues turned 20. They started sounding like pre-BS planks, not that anyone noticed.

The MIJ Squiers, whatever great wood they were made of, came out around the same time. Guess what happened when they turned 20.
 
I play a Squier Vintage Modified Jazz and I love it. No it's not going to sound like a Sadowsky, a Lull, a Valenti or any other of a score of nice, high end Fender jazz copies. But it is well built, it plays great, and it sounds good through a variety of amps. And at times it even sounds great. I just got it set up with a set of DR fat beams and can't wait to pick it up and bring it home for a test drive after the tune up.
 
My main bass is an Indonesian-made Squier MB-4, I will probably own that bass until the day I die. I also own a Schecter Stiletto Custom-6, Crafter Centaur-5, and a SBMM Sb-14, along with being the previous owner of an 80's MIJ SquierII P-Bass (good Gawd I miss that bass!!), have played Laklands, Fenders, G&Ls, ESPs, and a few other Squiers.

Honestly most of the Squiers I pick up just need a set of strings that are my choice and a set-up. Everything on my Squier fits nice and tight, action is exceptionally low, fretwork is great. The only thing I would change is I want a high-mass bridge but it would seem most MIM/MIA Fenders have I would have the same issue with so that's not very arguable.

BTW, never had someone turn me down for a gig because I played a Squier, or had someone talk to me after a show and say that I would sound better with a proper Fender. I guess maybe people think I suck so much that even having a proper Fender would do me no good??

Peace,
Greg
 
No offense to anyone, but this business about people not getting work because they play a Squier sounds like so much hot air, and even if it was true, I doubt it's as common as some would have us think, as I can't see any real professional being so close-minded that they wouldn't hire a skilled and talented musician because their bass didn't say "Fender" on it.
 
I understand what that poster meant, though. I mean, suppose the final hiring authority is someone with just enough hearsay knowledge to be dangerous? A manager? A girlfriend? Most of the time when we don't get hired, we never get to know the real reasons. So maybe it does pay to be detail-oriented on audition day. Creative paranoia has its rightful place when it comes to putting food on the table (and, paranoia being an UNreasonable fear, it stands to reason that sometimes, when faced with the unknown, we have reasonable fears).
 
I understand what that poster meant, though. I mean, suppose the final hiring authority is someone with just enough hearsay knowledge to be dangerous? A manager? A girlfriend? Most of the time when we don't get hired, we never get to know the real reasons. So maybe it does pay to be detail-oriented on audition day. Creative paranoia has its rightful place when it comes to putting food on the table (and, paranoia being an UNreasonable fear, it stands to reason that sometimes, when faced with the unknown, we have reasonable fears).

Well, you see that's the problem I have. i've never seen anybody say "Yeah, this happened to me because I played a Squier, I didn't get the job." It's all a lot of second or even third hand stories and generalizations, with nothing specific to back them up. I'm sure it MIGHT have happened a few times, ther are idiots out there, as we all know, who will judge you based on the logo on your bass, but I have a real hard time buying that it is as regular a practice as some claim. Not enough to be any kind of trend, anyway.
 
When I go into music stores these days I try and pick up a couple Squiers, maybe A/B them to a few real Fenders, don't usually have too, I have yet to play a Squier that stacks up to a Fender in terms of quality and playability, I will give them the tone argument on select basses, but that is mostly due to the pickups, something that is easily and most commonly changed. Tone has little to do with playability in my opinion as it can be changed far easier than a poorly finished neck, which all Squiers I have played have had...

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:bassist:

there we go - fact backed up with evidence vs anecdotal malarkey....

/thread

tons of people will repeat what they were told or what they want to believe - all Squiers are _______ Traynors can't ______

look if a fellow can play a VM Squier Jag, STOCK on Leno - most folks on here can get through their bar gig just fine on a Squier...
 
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:bassist:

there we go - fact backed up with evidence vs anecdotal malarkey....

/thread

tons of people will repeat what they were told or what they want to believe - all Squiers are _______ Traynors can't ______

look if a fellow can play a VM Squier Jag, STOCK on Leno - most folks on here can get through their bar gig just fine on a Squier...

I never said "all Squiers are crap" or "all Squiers are worthless".

I asked because I wanted to learn, rather than assume or go off hearsay.

And besides (this is my fault for lack of clarification) I shouldn't have said "remotely professional". I was just reading GuitarWorld and confused why arena people would rely on a Squier, considering they are a beginner's/budget line.

I realize and really respect that people go and bust work hard to play music they care about in bars and smaller gigs. I guess I wasn't really referring to that class of musicians.