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PS3 = owned.

I think the next six months will be awesome for both the 360 and the PS3.

+1

I don't get the whole debate over who is "pwning" who in the video game industry. It's beyond silly. Both of these systems are going to have some great games in the immediate future. I wish I had the money for one of them, let alone both. As it stands, I'm still playing my PS2, a system I bought about six years ago. I expect both the 360 and the PS3 to have lifespans that considerably exceed that.

Don't be too eager to see one company beat down another. Competition within the industry is what makes for a quality product, after all.
 
I've had my launch PS2 since well....launch. Never had a single problem with it in 7 years.

And, have you seen the defect rate in XBox360s? If you thought the PS2 was bad....

Same for me - my PS2 has worked for well over 5 years ..

Whereas I have had so many problems with Microsoft software at work and home, I would never trust them to make a decent piece of hardware! :p

Heh--I just always get a kick out of people proclaiming Microsoft the "Good Guys" in the console war. I guess some people have selective memories when they want to make a point.

It'd be nice if everyone realized that giant corporations aren't your friend. I certainly don't think of Sony as my friend. I just never liked the XBox controller, was always happy with my PS2, and wanted Bluray ability out of the box without a cheesy add-on.

I've been pretty disappointed with this new generation of consoles anyhow. I actually went through 4 xbox 360s before i got one that wasn't faulty (they all red light of doomed me within a month). The games just seem like the last generation of games but with bloom lighting. When is someone gonna make a kickass zombie rpg?

I got a PS2 and an XBox (original) at launch. The PS2 is still kicking, but on XBox #3. And the PS2 sees MUCH more use. Just my .02.


It's funny (ironic) that we were having this discussion about XBox reliability yeserday and today I read this in the Guardian newpaper :

What is the real failure rate of the Xbox 360?


Tim Anderson
Thursday May 31, 2007
The Guardian


We asked Game, one of the largest console retailers in the UK. "That's not information we're able to give out. It's commercially sensitive," it said. As for Microsoft, in the early days after the console's 2005 launch it claimed that failure rates were no higher than an industry average of between 3% and 5%. That now seems wildly optimistic.
Last month, its vice-president of entertainment, Peter Moore, refused to answer the question, telling the Mercury News: "I can't comment on failure rates." According to Moore, if someone has a faulty console they should worry about the customer service.

Anecdotal evidence about how many have suffered the "red ring of death", where the power button sticks on red, not green, is hard to assess because it is those with faulty boxes who make most noise, but Microsoft seems to have a problem. A notable feature of surveys such as one conducted recently by the magazine 360 Gamer is that multiple failures are common, with some users on their sixth or seventh console.

http://360-gamer.com/xbox360hardwarefailureresults.asp

Third-party repair specialists also cast doubt on the 360's reliability. Simon Donn at Undercutter UK in London Colney, Hertfordshire, says: "There's a particular problem in relation to overheating. Quite often it's to do with the soldering on the board, and the fact that the fans, which are already very loud, can't seem to extract enough air. "

In a statement, Microsoft said "there is not a single root cause or systemic issue with any of the Xbox 360 consoles ... there are obviously many things that can malfunction at any given time."

Initial quality problems are unsurprising with a games console rushed to market, but 18 months later shouldn't such issues be resolved? Nobody we spoke to seems confident.

Another problem relates to the 360's Digital Rights Management. When you buy downloadable content, such as a game from the Xbox Live Arcade, it comes with a usage restriction. It is fully unlocked for the console to which it is downloaded, even for offline use or for users with separate profiles. But if the machine breaks and you replace it, the game is only unlocked when the original buyer is logged into Xbox Live. That may seem a subtle distinction, but it enrages users who discover that their warranty replacement does not restore full rights to what they have paid for.

"It is this single issue, and the way that Microsoft has handled it, that has convinced me that this will be the last MS console I will own," says one disillusioned user on Microsoft's official community forums, in a thread with more than 2,000 posts. The solution is to find a third-party repairer who will return your actual machine, rather than a new or refurbished model - but that means spending money, which seems unreasonable during the warranty period.
 
as working for a major retail s being store and being incharge of their electronics dept. for us the 360 far outseeds sales of all playstation products. The PS3 is just to expensive, and the store I work at is in a area were the average income is over 6 figures and most moms dont work. Ive had 12 PS3's setting in my stockroom for well over 2 months now. they just dont sell, now sunday we sold out of 82 WII in less than 4 hrs, without people knowing that we had them. Yes the graphics are great on the ps3. But unless your running a full HD tv you wont see a difference. And IMHO the 360 has alot better games, only thing I would buy ps3 for is Grand turismo 4 that game will smash any other racing game. havnt played forenza 2 yet so....
 
They did nothing. ;)

They don't even have online feature. The Wii has that. Lawl.

Theres no real incentive to dish out the large amount of money for an overpriced system with no real games.

Sony elitism makes me laugh.

people always gripe about freaking online....it doesn't do anything except put the guy you wanna punch in the face 100 miles away from you (or even further). I just like gettin me and fellow dudes into gaming in the same room and seeing what skills are best on the same tv. Wii....i don't really know if i want it..........there are some pluses, and some minuses....such as unreactive controls.....i think i'll get one for collector's sake, buy a few games i think i'd like, and as for the rest, just screw it. Sony's always been hokey with their business and now i think it finally proves me right by seeing this article
 
as working for a major retail s being store and being incharge of their electronics dept. for us the 360 far outseeds sales of all playstation products. The PS3 is just to expensive, and the store I work at is in a area were the average income is over 6 figures and most moms dont work. Ive had 12 PS3's setting in my stockroom for well over 2 months now. they just dont sell, now sunday we sold out of 82 WII in less than 4 hrs, without people knowing that we had them. Yes the graphics are great on the ps3. But unless your running a full HD tv you wont see a difference. And IMHO the 360 has alot better games, only thing I would buy ps3 for is Grand turismo 4 that game will smash any other racing game. havnt played forenza 2 yet so....

Just because something sells or not - doesn't mean it's a better or worse product...:hmm:

What it tells me is that the PS3 is over-priced and that as with the PS2 - when the price comes down, it will sell.

As I said before - I shall wait for it to become reasonably-priced and then laugh at the people who were so deparate to own one, they paid well over the odds! :p