Question about Nut Mute/Wraps?

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  1. 14736251

    14736251 Guest

    Does anyone know, how effective is the use of such a device, what is it supposed to achieve in the bass's sound?
    VictorWooten.jpg
    do you see the multi-colored hair tie Victor is using here? what is the story on this practice?

    here's what I think-
    it helps get a more bouncy attack
    decreses unwanted overtones

    Who out here in TB land uses them?
    What are the reasons you use them?
    What do you call these things?
     
  2. bongomania

    bongomania Supporting Member Commercial User

    Oct 17, 2005
    PDX, OR
    owner, OVNIFX and OVNILabs
    The deal is that it keeps strings from vibrating much when he can't control them with palm/finger muting, e.g. while slapping fast the low B has a tendency to rattle around unless you keep it in check with a wrap or with right hand technique.
     
  3. 14736251

    14736251 Guest

    do you use one?
     
  4. 14736251

    14736251 Guest

    Bueller?
     
  5. Passinwind

    Passinwind I know nothing. Commercial User

    Dec 3, 2003
    Columbia River Gorge, WA.
    Owner/Designer &Toaster Tech Passinwind Electronics
    Do a search on "scrunchies".
     
  6. 14736251

    14736251 Guest

    is that what you use, a scrunchy?
     
  7. bongomania

    bongomania Supporting Member Commercial User

    Oct 17, 2005
    PDX, OR
    owner, OVNIFX and OVNILabs
    No, he was just trying to see if you were gullible.
     
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    14736251 Guest

    just placating the smartness
     
  9. Passinwind

    Passinwind I know nothing. Commercial User

    Dec 3, 2003
    Columbia River Gorge, WA.
    Owner/Designer &Toaster Tech Passinwind Electronics
    Nope, I only play fretless and have no need for such a girlie device.:eyebrow:

    Here's what happens if you follow my advice though.:cool:
     
  10. bongomania

    bongomania Supporting Member Commercial User

    Oct 17, 2005
    PDX, OR
    owner, OVNIFX and OVNILabs
    So no joy in the search, then. Yes, a hair scrunchy is the implement used by Victor and others who play like that. ;)
     
  11. Passinwind

    Passinwind I know nothing. Commercial User

    Dec 3, 2003
    Columbia River Gorge, WA.
    Owner/Designer &Toaster Tech Passinwind Electronics
    Really?:ninja:

    Just out of curiosity, did my linked search not work for you guys? I got three full pages of links from it.
     
  12. 14736251

    14736251 Guest

    Fortunately I already knew that what Victor is using, is a hair tie, that is why I called it that.
    But let me rephrase the question so it’s clear for some
    -I’d really like to know what the reasons are for using them, coming from those who actually do use them?
     
  13. Passinwind

    Passinwind I know nothing. Commercial User

    Dec 3, 2003
    Columbia River Gorge, WA.
    Owner/Designer &Toaster Tech Passinwind Electronics
    In all seriousness, I have used an actual scrunchie on my nephew's Warr guitar. I believe the primary function in that case was to prevent a secondary pitch from the "back" length of the string (the portion from the fretted note to the nut) from sounding while tapping.
     
  14. bongomania

    bongomania Supporting Member Commercial User

    Oct 17, 2005
    PDX, OR
    owner, OVNIFX and OVNILabs
    The first link isn't working for me, but the second one is fine.
     
  15. Passinwind

    Passinwind I know nothing. Commercial User

    Dec 3, 2003
    Columbia River Gorge, WA.
    Owner/Designer &Toaster Tech Passinwind Electronics
    Thanks. I guess saved searches are cookie-specific? The first link works fine for me. The second one is a direct link to a thread, not a search.

    Anyhow, that search string yielded three pages of linked posts that might answer the OP's question to a greater or lesser degree while he's waiting for more participation on this thread.
     
  16. 14736251

    14736251 Guest

    Interesting to know that in the bass world these are referred to as scrunchies, this search was very useful, thank you. Interested to know how many people actually use these. I just put one on my bass after putting on new strings. Passing from say C to F created weird overtones if I wasn’t on the mute with my right hand; this seems to help that problem of reducing undesirable overtones for sure.

    I noticed Norm Stockton, also uses these. I’ve also seen what looks like part of a cotton shirt wrapped around the neck which seems a little extreme, as well as the sock method.
     
  17. deaf pea

    deaf pea

    Mar 24, 2005
    Cuernavaca 1 hr S Mexico City
    Seymour Duncan/Basslines SMB-5A Endorsing Artist
    I use A PAIR of scrunchies* . . . more often when recording than when playing "live" . . . to help me achieve the cleanest recording.

    I DO mute with all of the unused fingers of the left hand and the right hand thumb, ALL OF THE TIME . . . so that ONLY the note (or notes) that I want to play, sound(s).

    The scrunchies help with the supression of extraneous sounds, like harmonics when playing notes at the nodes, and open strings that sound sympathetically . . .

    :cool:

    * using only ONE scrunchy can actually INCREASE the extraneous sounds, especially those pesky harmonics . . .
     
  18. GeneralElectric

    GeneralElectric

    Dec 26, 2007
    NY, NY
    I use thick rubber bands right above the nut. I'll put up a picture in a bit. I did it to reduce the string rattle on the A string and it works like a charm.
     
  19. Passinwind

    Passinwind I know nothing. Commercial User

    Dec 3, 2003
    Columbia River Gorge, WA.
    Owner/Designer &Toaster Tech Passinwind Electronics
    No worries. I was actually trying to reply in good faith all along, but I can see how it might've appeared otherwise.;)
     
  20. CamMcIntyre

    CamMcIntyre

    Jun 6, 2000
    USA
    I have used a scrunchy in the past on my 6. I used it when i was doing a lot more 2 hand tapping. It helps with the muting immensely.