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Some people would say the Model T was. Have to seen the videos of it going over mud and trails?
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Questions about the Early 70s Muscle Car Experience
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Some people would say the Model T was. Have to seen the videos of it going over mud and trails?
To my mind they started calling things SUV with the rise of 4 wheel driven oversized monocoque wagon car things.
I still call anything with chassis rails and a live axle a truck.
If it doesn't have a proper differential it's a SUV.
If it can drive an axle with a wheel off the ground it's a 4x4. Don't call your SUV a 4x4!
I still call anything with chassis rails and a live axle a truck.
If it doesn't have a proper differential it's a SUV.
If it can drive an axle with a wheel off the ground it's a 4x4. Don't call your SUV a 4x4!
The first Gas crisis hit in 1973 as a result of the October war between Egypt and Israel. Then Saudi Arabia embargoed their oil shipments to the US to drive the price up. That's when gas went from 36 cents a gallon to 55 cents a gallon, which was a big shock then. Gas lines and odd and even days to get gas, you had to match the last digit on your licence tag to get gas. That spelled the end of the muscle cars because the market for them dried up for all but the real hot rodders.
It would pay to be sure before taking it too far off road. It sure looks like a 4x4 but it also looks a bit girly so it might be one of those SUV things I was talking about, in disguise.
Ah, yes, many hints of femininity on that unit.It would pay to be sure before taking it too far off road. It sure looks like a 4x4 but it also looks a bit girly so it might be one of those SUV things I was talking about, in disguise.
Stricter emissions regulations also drove a nail in the coffin of the muscle car era. EGR valves, AIR pumps, thermostatic air cleaners and catalytic converters were just around the corner from 1970. By the time 1972 - 73 hit, compression ratios had dropped quicker than the stock market.
Even in 1970, regulations were tighter on engines displacing less than 400 cubic inches. Chevrolet pulled a fast one on the EPA by boring the 396 over by .030" to increase displacement to 402 cubes. They still called it a 396, since SS396 had a nicer ring to it than SS402 would have.
That is the '69 Ford (Fairlane body) 428 Cobra Jet. They made Mustang body, Torino body and Fairlane body with the same package. Check my replies above for other photos of them.
I need to mention here that when I started paying attention to cars, if you wanted to street race and had money, you only needed to know two things. If you went to a GM dealer, you said 409. If you went to a Mopar dealer, you said 413.
There aren't nearly as many 409s around today as there are other big blocks. My understanding is that they didn't stand up under high RPM, unlike other Chevy engines, so many were blown up through driver error. IIRC correctly they were a direct relative of the 348 truck engine.
My family drove a lot of Ford Y-blocks, which if memory serves included the 272, 292 and 312. I see on Wikipedia that there were also 239 and 256 engines early in the series. We had the 292 V8s in a '59 Ford sedan and '59 Ford pickup, and my dad transplanted a 292 into his '53 Ford pickup and converted it to 12 volts.
None of these except the 312 was considered a high performance engine; it was found in the T-birds and high end cars.
My family drove a lot of Ford Y-blocks, which if memory serves included the 272, 292 and 312. I see on Wikipedia that there were also 239 and 256 engines early in the series. We had the 292 V8s in a '59 Ford sedan and '59 Ford pickup, and my dad transplanted a 292 into his '53 Ford pickup and converted it to 12 volts.
None of these except the 312 was considered a high performance engine; it was found in the T-birds and high end cars.
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That snake on the fender is from the factory? I thought someone had done that on his own. How about the red strips, factory too?
Yes that snake on the fender is from the factory. There should be a 428 near the snake. My parents had a red car like this. That black with red stripes may be repainted, it is hard to tell. I'm not an expert on all the colors of these cars. But, because we had one I am able to tell you some. Check the first reply, it is mine. And I replied later with another picture.
I was a Mopar fan back in 1970 but wound up dumping my gear moving '65 GMC van and buying a Dodge van in '74. In the mid 80's I was gifted a '66 Buick Wildcat by my wife's friend since childhood's father. It was in decent condition, big and heavy, but it was also very fast. The only thing it had trouble passing was a gas station.
I wound up needing to commute over an hour to work for several years and the Wildcat was too expensive to keep as a daily driver so I paid it forward by giving it to the people who live across the street who told me they gave it to their pastor who then gave it to his cousin in West Virginia who needed a car. I wonder where it is now?
I wound up needing to commute over an hour to work for several years and the Wildcat was too expensive to keep as a daily driver so I paid it forward by giving it to the people who live across the street who told me they gave it to their pastor who then gave it to his cousin in West Virginia who needed a car. I wonder where it is now?
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