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Quilter Bass Block

The BB800 does not color except when one wants it to (by pushing the limiter or otherwise twisting tone knobs.) Please do not assist this topic into the next piece of TalkBass folklore.

No one amp is everyone's cup of tea, but I must add that any attempts to separate me from my BB800's will occur over my dead body. ;)

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Charlie, I wasn't saying the BB800 colors and that it is undesirable. I was merely saying that the power section could be a separate product that might find some significant support due to it's cleanliness and smaller form factor.

There has been a lot of chatter about the front ends people are using, and the BB800 supports this beautifully since its so dang clean. Might be cool to have a 1/4" in and a 1/4" out with a power cord, maybe not as small as the Micro Block, but it shows what Q can do!

Lord knows I would NEVER come between you and you BB800! :D
 
Y'know, I'm starting to think that Pat might have a product in stripping out the pre circuits out of the BB800 and producing a standalone power amp. It would be smaller, more portable, still have the dual limiters and allow all of us tone-nuts to put whatever front end we like and not worry about the power section coloring "our sound".

Thoughts pro or con?
Add a "Power" model to the "Block" series - I could see that.
Except the "Bass Block" is pretty much there, already for my needs. (I'll go ahead and keep those handy instrument inputs.)
 
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Pat, care to comment on any of this? :rolleyes:

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Y'know, I'm starting to think that Pat might have a product in stripping out the pre circuits out of the BB800 and producing a standalone power amp. It would be smaller, more portable, still have the dual limiters and allow all of us tone-nuts to put whatever front end we like and not worry about the power section coloring "our sound".

Thoughts pro or con?

"It would be smaller." Maybe, maybe not. At this point the limiting factor may very well be the real estate needed for the connectors, so I don't know if you'd save much by removing the 2-3 knobs associated with the preamp. I don't know if re-spinning the PCBs and the mechanical components of the amp would be justified by the small additional market share they could grab, when the current Bass Block can already be used strictly as a power amp if you want.
 
"It would be smaller." Maybe, maybe not. At this point the limiting factor may very well be the real estate needed for the connectors, so I don't know if you'd save much by removing the 2-3 knobs associated with the preamp. I don't know if re-spinning the PCBs and the mechanical components of the amp would be justified by the small additional market share they could grab, when the current Bass Block can already be used strictly as a power amp if you want.

Yeah. The assumptions that removing certain features will make it smaller and cheaper because it has less "stuff" can be oversimplifications. Sometimes the guts of the amp have layouts which cannot be made much smaller. Also, the tooling and design and marketing and distribution costs of adding another product which may cannibalize sales from an existing product can be prohibitive factors for a manufacturer.
 
small ... market share

there's why you shouldn't hold your breath.

If you really, really want a power amp only, buy one of the 800 watters currently on the market and hire someone to strip it out and put it in a box for you. Don't expect a major company to take a risk just because a couple of guys might buy one.

edit: oh, and if you do this, don't complain that it sounded better before you did it.
 
Why would anyone go with that over a BB800, other than price? The open top particularly amuses me, if it's going to be on the floor.
No preamp. I don’t particularly like top vent holes, but I assume it’s needed since there is no fan.
I prob shouldn’t have derailed the quilter thread. It’s a killer amp for sure and it has authority out the the wazoo. I think many of us still just want the power amp in a pedal size box and I was wanting to show others with similar interests at least one exists. If the demand is there and there is money to be made, it will be built. The entire next batch of his amps are already spoken for.
 
No preamp. I don’t particularly like top vent holes, but I assume it’s needed since there is no fan.
I prob shouldn’t have derailed the quilter thread. It’s a killer amp for sure and it has authority out the the wazoo. I think many of us still just want the power amp in a pedal size box and I was wanting to show others with similar interests at least one exists. If the demand is there and there is money to be made, it will be built. The entire next batch of his amps are already spoken for.
The only thing would interest me in a power amp only is if it's size of an actual pedal, like an MXR 10-band EQ or the like.
 
Had kind of a hectic double header, last night. Perfect time to put my new hectic double header amp through its paces!
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The jury's still out on Jazz gigs. The rig seemed responsive enough and headroom certainly isn't an issue. The neutrality of the Quilter might be accentuating how old my strings are (the pickup is no spring chicken either and I know they have their own service arc).
At this point, when not so pressed for time & space for these types of jobs I'm leaning towards continuing to use a tube head (Ampeg PF-50T) that seems to inject a certain organic liveliness that I crave.
But on a night like this when I have to strike my upright rig & half a PA and get to the next job as fast as I can, I'd rather not mess around with one more bulky thing that takes up an extra hand and can't handle the next job.
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The next show was a loud Funk/Disco in a big bar. I finally got to try the Quilter with a 5-string electric and the 4 ohm 2x12 cab and it was freaking awesome! I don't think I've ever experienced quite this much clarity and headroom before at this volume.
I still intend to A/B the Quilter directly against my pre/power rack, but at the moment it looks like my go-to amp for convenience may well also be my new go-to for loud gigs! (The old Markbass LMII always got the job done in a pinch, but it was never a contender to be replacing the rack.)
I still can't believe just how ridiculously light this amp is for what it does. I'm sure I'll get used to it, but right now it seems almost comical, the way it vanishes amidst the piles of other gear in my truck. (I'm definitely not complaining - one hernia was plenty...)
 
Anyone else here ever play a Ovnifx Smoothie compressor? It just dawned on me that the Quilter voicing reminds me of that compressor. It’s fairly transparent and accurate, but there’s a slight “rounding off” or smoothing of the top end, which takes off some of the sheen/edge that I like in my tone. It makes things a little “polite” sounding for my industrial/metal/punk tendencies. However, it has a very nice, thick clean tone which probably works quite well in many settings. Has anyone else used both of these fine pieces of gear and noticed the similarities?
 
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Anyone else here ever play a Ovnifx Smoothie compressor? It just dawned on me that the Quilter voicing reminds me of that compressor. It’s fairly transparent and accurate, but there’s a slight “rounding off” or smoothing of the top end, which takes off some of the sheen/edge that I like in my tone. It makes things a little “polite” sounding for my industrial/metal/punk tendencies. However, it has a very nice, thick clean tone which probably works quite well in many settings. Has anyone else used both of these fine pieces of gear and noticed the similarities?
I find that if I need less of that smoothed off top end (when I'm playing through my old school Barefaced One10's for instance) turning both tone knobs to 10 o'clock and compensating with the gain sharpens the highs considerably. This is less of an issue with my other cabs which are full range. If you are using pedals with EQ you can then add what's missing if required.
 
I find that if I need less of that smoothed off top end (when I'm playing through my old school Barefaced One10's for instance) turning both tone knobs to 10 o'clock and compensating with the gain sharpens the highs considerably. This is less of an issue with my other cabs which are full range. If you are using pedals with EQ you can then add what's missing if required.
I just tried this setting and it can get downright thin and sharp with the right gain/master settings.

BB800 never ceases to amaze. I'm just waiting for it to make dinner.