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R.I.P. Scott Weiland
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I heard some audio of an interview Scott gave that same day with a radio guy in Toronto. He's always been a tough interview, but he seemed really disinterested and like he wasn't all there.
It's just a sad situation. I know that a lot of people tried to help him get and stay clean. Notably, Duff McKagan, who had been down that road too, and has turned his own life around in a great way. But this disease of addiction is such a mother******. Scott was a really talented guy, but the human toll this takes on his family and friends is something that always needs to be held above the loss to music and fans.
Indded. His solo stuff was great. I remember when I first heard the hidden song on Purple I thought it was so cheesy when I was younger. But the older I got the more I realized that it was just them stretching out their versatility. Especially Scott. Great stuff.
I def see that. I think that STP as whole unit were more talented than some of my other musician friends gave them credit for.
I was a metal head too when I was younger and that "grunge" movement happened. I turned a deaf ear on all of it. For a while. It took me a little bit, but like I had said earlier, you just couldn't deny the great music coming out of all those bands. It was and still is and always will, amazing music. It still surprises me to this day that half my band mates think that these bands were still not extremely prevalent and seriously important in the musical landscape of our time. Of all time. Even if you don't really dig them, you'd be a fool to admit that they didn't leave a HUGE scar on the musical timeline of time. Their influences run long and deep and they will for years to come. In me too. They weren't just part of a movement, they WERE the movement. And they sent waves across music and time that I think will be moving for decades to come. Our kids kids kids will still be hearing this music. That's says a lot to me.
And Scott was big part of that. Sucks he's gone but he is. And he will be missed.
2 of my all time favorite STP songs. Love at first listen for both tracks.
Funny you should say that. When I chatted with Robert at that music store, he told me how much he liked to go hunting various shops, looking for vintage Japanese/ budget type instruments, and, when he found one that played and sounded good, he'd buy it, and use them when tracking an album.
Although he definitely likes his vintage Fenders, Rickenbackers and Gibsons, he really digs the off-the-wall stuff, too.
Is it solid body or semi-hollow? On the clip it looks thin and dense - like a solid body.
It's a hollow body.Or semi-hollow. Could be a block in there somewhere.
As a fellow hardcore AIC fan, I believe their post-LS releases are criminally underrated. Are they "Dirt"? No, but what is? - I certainly think they're easily on the level or even better than "Tripod".
And while not a "grunge" act but very much part of the '90s culture, Trent Reznor has been *very* clean & sober for almost a decade and a half (Dude got HUGE after substituting Workouts for Smack, as can been seen on the NIN "Besides You In Time" Blu-ray), got married and made two kids, and has still *consistently* been putting out fantastic music whether under the "Nine Inch Nails" or "How To Destroy Angels" moniker.
Oh, and all those Oscar/Grammys/Golden Globes he's been awarded for his stunning score work must look nice on the mantle. And all that from a guy who joked that his tombstone was going to read "Won a Grammy for saying "**** ****" (you can Google the complete sentence, I don't feel like getting banned
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Read Invalid Link Removed from Scott Weiland's ex-wife, Mary Forsberg Weiland. She's the mother of Scott's two children. And her words on Scott's passing and the life he was leading are uncomfortable, but extremely powerful.
I saw that on FB earlier morning and here are some thoughts.
First I'd like to preference with my heartfelt sympathy for the family and friends of Scott Weiland. There's nothing more painful I know of than loosing a close family member regardless of the circumstances. As much as I can empathize with this pain, I do wish to speak to what I see as an underlying message in this article. Hopefully I can write my thoughts without sounding insensitive.
Scott stated years ago his liquor consumption increased at a young age during the time of his early band days and that things escalated to cocaine usage, though his first known trouble with drugs wasn't reported until 1995 when he was busted for crack cocaine, IIRC. After being sentenced to a year probation, his drug use increased and Scott spent several years in and out of rehab. Though their where times of being clean, the drug usage never really stopped.
What I find so sad is despite Weiland's history, Forsberg married a known heroine addict who nearly died of a fatal overdose just 3 years prior to their marriage. Two years prior he was in rehab. Now, normally in my world that's a time in which people usually date and get to know each other before getting married. Perhaps Mary never saw Scott for anything other than a brilliant, talented musician, as she married him the same year he was divorced from his first wife?
Whatever the case, Weiland sadly never showed any length of stability and was diagnosed with bipolar disorder in 2007. During that 40 years before his diagnosis there would have been some indication of mental health issues as well as chronic drug use. I can't help but wonder when reading this article if the pain I'm hearing is not a result of ignoring the signs and history of a troubled and sick man in hopes that it would work out both for her intimate relationship and for the relationship he could have had as her children's father? Know doubt Scott Weiland must have blown this woman's mind though she was quite an attractive model in her own right. He was incredibly talented, good looking and let's face, a millionaire rock star. What woman wouldn't have at least been flattered? Unfortunately a troubled and dying man who is desperately in need of help didn't balance the scales in terms of marriage and being an available father.
I think many of us have great ideas about what it right for us (myself included) until something goes wrong, all the while ignoring the red flags. There may be someone reading this right now that is in a situation they know is dangerous or unhealthy. The question is, what action are you going to take? Do you take the ride or pass?
First I'd like to preference with my heartfelt sympathy for the family and friends of Scott Weiland. There's nothing more painful I know of than loosing a close family member regardless of the circumstances. As much as I can empathize with this pain, I do wish to speak to what I see as an underlying message in this article. Hopefully I can write my thoughts without sounding insensitive.
Scott stated years ago his liquor consumption increased at a young age during the time of his early band days and that things escalated to cocaine usage, though his first known trouble with drugs wasn't reported until 1995 when he was busted for crack cocaine, IIRC. After being sentenced to a year probation, his drug use increased and Scott spent several years in and out of rehab. Though their where times of being clean, the drug usage never really stopped.
What I find so sad is despite Weiland's history, Forsberg married a known heroine addict who nearly died of a fatal overdose just 3 years prior to their marriage. Two years prior he was in rehab. Now, normally in my world that's a time in which people usually date and get to know each other before getting married. Perhaps Mary never saw Scott for anything other than a brilliant, talented musician, as she married him the same year he was divorced from his first wife?
Whatever the case, Weiland sadly never showed any length of stability and was diagnosed with bipolar disorder in 2007. During that 40 years before his diagnosis there would have been some indication of mental health issues as well as chronic drug use. I can't help but wonder when reading this article if the pain I'm hearing is not a result of ignoring the signs and history of a troubled and sick man in hopes that it would work out both for her intimate relationship and for the relationship he could have had as her children's father? Know doubt Scott Weiland must have blown this woman's mind though she was quite an attractive model in her own right. He was incredibly talented, good looking and let's face, a millionaire rock star. What woman wouldn't have at least been flattered? Unfortunately a troubled and dying man who is desperately in need of help didn't balance the scales in terms of marriage and being an available father.
I think many of us have great ideas about what it right for us (myself included) until something goes wrong, all the while ignoring the red flags. There may be someone reading this right now that is in a situation they know is dangerous or unhealthy. The question is, what action are you going to take? Do you take the ride or pass?
Actually, it was written by his second wife. He was married 3 times, but only had children with Mary, whom he married in 2000, I believe. He married his first wife, Janina, in 1994. He married his third wife in 2013.
She was well aware of his drug use when they started seeing each other. According to Scott (interviews and his memoir), she actually did drugs with him, and quite heavily for a while before going to rehab. This was before they got married, I believe, and certainly before the kids. She was able to clean up, he wasn’t. Also, they were seeing each other for a few years before he was divorced from his first wife. She actually wrote a memoir called “Fall to Pieces”, though I haven’t read it.
