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Racial Microagressions

#584
LiquidMidnight said:
And this is why things suck without bluewine around. Dude was an expert on all things Milwaukee.

:ninja:
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Here ya go-
http://www.city-data.com/crime/crime-Milwaukee-Wisconsin.html

Here's another map- it's interactive and clicking on the zones will show the crimes.

This is where I moved when I left home- 41st & Lisbon-
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This is where I lived for 3 years- if you look on the map, you'll see a street going E-W called Rogers St, at the center of the map, near a diagonal St called Forest Home Ave. I lived at 20th and Rogers.
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Then, I moved to the area in the following map- if you look at the black dot with 53 on it- I lived at Hoyt & Medford Ave- you should be able to see it if you zoom in.
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Generally, if a shooting has been reported, it's from the area bounded by Green Bay Rd on the East, Silver Spring Dr on the North, 76th St on the West and Vliet St on the South. This area is the general zone, but a place called Metcalf Park is about the worst.
 
#587
kohntarkosz said:
I've seen bluewine mentioned twice on TB recently. What did he do? Why is he so infamous?
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bluewine posted a lot in Band Management. I actually liked blue, but he had a tendency to rub some posters the wrong way. His main thing was that he often rehashed the same subjects over and over again - usually about determining what Craigslist ads would be worth it for a serious musician to respond to - and he considered playing four hour classic rock bar gigs as REAL SERIOUS BUSINESS. He was also obsessed with age. You could be talking about the best preamp for EMGs or your approach to tritone chord substitutions, and blue would somehow bring how his or someone else's age factored into that. blue's whole thing was that he seemed to derive his entire self-worth from being in a working band, and that desire drove him to make some questionable decisions, much of which played out in his threads on TB.
 
#588
LiquidMidnight said:
bluewine posted a lot in Band Management. I actually liked blue, but he had a tendency to rub some posters the wrong way. His main thing was that he often rehashed the same subjects over and over again - usually about determining what Craigslist ads would be worth it for a serious musician to respond to - and he considered playing four hour classic rock bar gigs as REAL SERIOUS BUSINESS. He was also obsessed with age. You could be talking about the best preamp for EMGs or your approach to tritone chord substitutions, and blue would somehow bring how his or someone else's age factored into that. blue's whole thing was that he seemed to derive his entire self-worth from being in a working band, and that desire drove him to make some questionable decisions, much of which played out in his threads on TB.
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And, if I may add, he gave a lot of lousy advice to newer and less-knowledgeable players. I don't think he ever meant bad, but he certainly thought he knew more than he really did.
 
#593
LiquidMidnight said:
bluewine posted a lot in Band Management. I actually liked blue, but he had a tendency to rub some posters the wrong way. His main thing was that he often rehashed the same subjects over and over again - usually about determining what Craigslist ads would be worth it for a serious musician to respond to - and he considered playing four hour classic rock bar gigs as REAL SERIOUS BUSINESS. He was also obsessed with age. You could be talking about the best preamp for EMGs or your approach to tritone chord substitutions, and blue would somehow bring how his or someone else's age factored into that. blue's whole thing was that he seemed to derive his entire self-worth from being in a working band, and that desire drove him to make some questionable decisions, much of which played out in his threads on TB.
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Didn't he fake a lot of the CL ads as well?
 
#595
At the risk of steering this conversation away from The Legend Of Bluewine (a topic I would love to continue reading about), I had an interesting conversation this evening with an interracial, multi-cultural couple who related a story about the paperwork they were given to fill out at the hospital when their daughter was born last year. They found themselves in the uncomfortable position of being forced to pick one box to categorize their child's race, when the reality was much more complicated than that. I completely understood: their family was a true melting pot of Latino, black, European Spanish, Native American and regular old white people. There was not a box for that.

As I was listening, I couldn't help but mentally apply some of the brilliant answers that I have learned in this thread and imagine the reaction if I had said them out loud:

"Hey dude, you people have had your fun with this for long enough. White people have been over it for at least 10 years, so should you."

"Sounds like you live in Stupidville. You should move."

"Oh, so this is just a **** measuring contest about who has HAD IT WORSE?!?"

Etc.
 
#598
bolophonic said:
At the risk of steering this conversation away from The Legend Of Bluewine (a topic I would love to continue reading about), I had an interesting conversation this evening with an interracial, multi-cultural couple who related a story about the paperwork they were given to fill out at the hospital when their daughter was born last year. They found themselves in the uncomfortable position of being forced to pick one box to categorize their child's race, when the reality was much more complicated than that. I completely understood: their family was a true melting pot of Latino, black, European Spanish, Native American and regular old white people. There was not a box for that.

As I was listening, I couldn't help but mentally apply some of the brilliant answers that I have learned in this thread and imagine the reaction if I had said them out loud:

"Hey dude, you people have had your fun with this for long enough. White people have been over it for at least 10 years, so should you."

"Sounds like you live in Stupidville. You should move."

"Oh, so this is just a **** measuring contest about who has HAD IT WORSE?!?"

Etc.
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Just put human and move on.
 
#599
fmoore200 said:
They didn't have a "two or more races" box? I've noticed that on newer forms recently
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My wife is multi-racial (Latina, Asian), I'm white. At the hospital when our son was born we simply checked the ubiquitous "Other" and moved on.
Though I understand some people are (perhaps rightly) bothered by all of that, we just choose not to be. It's no biggie to us.

We're raising our son to be proud of all that he is, ashamed of none and also teach him that designating "race" is faaaar less important than simply respecting others, trying to understand others and treating others as he'd like to be treated.
After all, what more can you really do? It's such a simple formula
 
#600
I suspect people who WANT to find offense or "microagression" in almost any conversation can do so.

Unfortunately, some folks make it their business to search out those potentially offensive tidbits, get all huffed up about it, then grab a megaphone and start trumpeting their offense to everyone around them.

It makes more sense to let the small stuff be just that: small stuff.
 

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