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RANT: It's an award show, please leave it at that.

#22
Toasted said:
This thread is really funny: "I don't agree with this opinion, ergo it shouldn't be said."

As soon as someone's opinion who you do agree with is being censored I know who'll be the ones crowing for constitutionally guaranteed right to freedom of expression will be.

Fake edit: I like MTV.
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I made a point to say it has nothing to do with agree or disagree, I just think that awards shows and the like should be left to the business at hand, not spewing your opinion about something totally unrelated.

Again, this is not about politics, but how these types of shows have a component to them that has nothing to do with the program.

And yes, you can turn it off. I'm not saying, I'm just saying...
 
#23
vh1 has some good ones: vh1 classic and vh1 soul come to mind.
i have to admit, i'm a little bit tired of vh1 classic - how many times to people need to talk about how much drugs they took in the 60's and how awesome it was "changing the world" with protests (that do what, exactly)?

oh, and MTV has mtv3, which has some good stuff from time to time.
 
#25
Jomahu, you just reminded me of something. There used to be this broadcast channel near me that was called "The Box." It was all request music videos. That's it, no personalities, no shows, just music videos by request. MTV ended up buying it and sticking MTV2 in it's slot. Now to know that they have MTV3 is kinda scary. They have enough crappy programming that they have to fill up 3 channels? It's crazy.
 
#26
I don't watch those shows, as I consider the awards trivial and irrelevant.

However, I've spent some time thinking about comments made by actors, actresses, music celebs and pop culture figures.

Where I've come down is this: I don't have a problem with them making comments in public or briefly at award shows (as long as they don't delay the program). Each of us has only so many opportunities for public comment. While some of these folks are lightweights and have little basis for their comments, many others care deeply about the topics on which they comment, have done homework on those topics, and devote their time and money to supporting specific causes. In many cases, it also appears to me that they are considerably less partisan than the party hacks from both major parties who do get regular air time.

And the final principle is this: a country in which those comments CAN be made, appropriate or not, is a better country than one in which they CANNOT be made.

Therefore, I'm OK with it.
 
#27
bradjonesbass said:
But yeah, like I care what a 9th grade dropout drug addict has to say about the war, or who a former gang-banging rapper wants to be in the White House in February....
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do you intend to say that only "intelligent" and "cultured" people can have valid opinions on what is going on in the world today?
 
#30
Pilgrim said:
I don't watch those shows, as I consider the awards trivial and irrelevant.

However, I've spent some time thinking about comments made by actors, actresses, music celebs and pop culture figures.

Where I've come down is this: I don't have a problem with them making comments in public or briefly at award shows (as long as they don't delay the program). Each of us has only so many opportunities for public comment. While some of these folks are lightweights and have little basis for their comments, many others care deeply about the topics on which they comment, have done homework on those topics, and devote their time and money to supporting specific causes. In many cases, it also appears to me that they are considerably less partisan than the party hacks from both major parties who do get regular air time.

And the final principle is this: a country in which those comments CAN be made, appropriate or not, is a better country than one in which they CANNOT be made.

Therefore, I'm OK with it.
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Well stated and +1. OK, I do watch the awards shows sometimes.

MTV in general: Barf. I watched 120 Minutes, Yo MTV Raps on occasion (in the Fab 5 Freddy days, Dre and Ed were pretty lame) and Beavis and Butthead. Nothing since, that I can recall. It's just another reality TV channel now, and I have no use for that.

jomahu said:
oh, and MTV has mtv3, which has some good stuff from time to time.
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Heh, the same could be said about MTV2 at one time (when it was called M2, I think)--so don't expect that to last. Look forward to endless showings of the next series, Real World/Road Rules/Undressed/Cribs Challenge.:rolleyes:
 
#32
the only thing about mtv2 these days is the subterranean/headbanger's ball lineup on a saturday nite. of course, i usually miss it because i have gigs. :spit:

also, to clarify: mtv3 is spanish-language mtv. lots of the same poo...i preferred mtvS
 
#33
threshar said:
They never thank god when they lose.

"Well, the good lord made me fumble back there"
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...I've been saying that for years...

;)

...man, like god CARES that you caught that pass/scored a touchdown/hit a home run/got a pointless award for what someone else wrote for you, someone else sang for you...

Folks, if there IS a god, don't you think he/she/it might just be a little too busy to be helping you do what it was you're thanking/dedicating it to he/she/it to, or just not at all worried about it at all? There are famines, wars, suffering children, and all kinds of troubles in the world, and your little victory, while important to you and your fans, has little to no bearing on the truly important stuff.

And as for political comments, I tend to realize that entertainers are there to ENTERTAIN us, not to educate us. I keep that in mind when hearing them drone on about stuff such as this, and realize that most likely, they are posturing in an effort to remain in the spotlight to continue their incredibly lucrative career at being overpaid to look good by sounding like they are actually capable of THOUGHT. ;)
 
#34
I never got to see it when it actually played music, so I only know it as what it is now.

It's not good. It's not bad. Just another channel with bad "reality" TV.

That being said, MTV Live (in Canada) is okay. The musical guests can be pretty decent (F**ked Up was cool, The Flatliners was amazing, and all the indie-rock dance crap is tolerable). Shadows Fall is on on Thursday. Not my cup of tea, but a little different than you'd imagine seeing on MTV.
 
#36
well then, who exactly should be qualified to talk about politics? and by politics, i mean, y'know, the stuff that affects all citizens and who all are actively involved in voting....

so far, the tally of those who can't:
artists
musicians
the media
tbers.


anyone else?
 
#37
jomahu said:
well then, who exactly should be qualified to talk about politics? and by politics, i mean, y'know, the stuff that affects all citizens and who all are actively involved in voting....

so far, the tally of those who can't:
artists
musicians
the media
tbers.


anyone else?
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I prefer that people potentially and historically affected by policies not talk about them either. It's very divisive.
 
#39
Twinxkel said:
I thought it was hilarious when Slash LAUGHED when he read Linkin Park as winners of "best rock video".

Then had the cojones to shake their hands, straight faced. Priceless.
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That was funny. That and Pink were probably the best moments of the show.

I watch some of those shows/channels once in a while to try and keep current so I can chat with my students. It really helps with building a relationship with them.
 
#40
jomahu said:
well then, who exactly should be qualified to talk about politics? and by politics, i mean, y'know, the stuff that affects all citizens and who all are actively involved in voting....

so far, the tally of those who can't:
artists
musicians
the media
tbers.


anyone else?
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it's the 'when's n where's", not the "who's"

slightly off topic but, can you imagine what TB would turn into if the "no politics" rule was suddenly lifted?
It's almost hysterical to think about.
 

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