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Replacement Pickups for Fender Mustang Bass

Christcr

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Not that the original Mustang Bass pickups are bad or anything... but, have any of you had experience with direct replacements? There isn't much on the web as far as reviews or recordings and I've watched a few videos on youtube with the Nordstrand versions.

So,

1) Which companies make them? I know Nordstrand does, Aero does, and Seymour Duncan Custom Shop does. Any others worth noting?

2) Have any of you had experience with the Nordstrand, Aero, or Seymours? (or others). If so, how do they sound? Significantly different? A couple of them are very pricey.

I don't have a problem with the stock pickups, but you know how it is with gear-head types. Always experimenting...
 
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I think you pretty much named them all. However, there are countless other boutique shops who will custom wind for you if you send in your stock pickup. Some of them are quite inexpensive for the work they do, like Rose Pickups.

I have experience with Aero Mustang pickups, because I have one. I think it's a beautiful sounding pickup. It really thickens up the sound without losing any of its punch. It gets the bass to more of that P-Bass range, which means that solo, it's not going to be the greatest thing ever, but play with a band, and you'll be loving just how it always works. Here are the words from the maker himself:

The pickup is an exact drop-in replacement for the Fender Mustang Reissue bass, but has a better frequency response than the original. The string spacing is standard Mustang 4 Reissue, 18.00mm C-C. New covers are not available from Aero, but the new AeroMustang Reissue pickup will fit perfectly into the original Reissue covers.

The Mustang pickup is a hum canceling pickup, and therefore there is some loss of high harmonics along with the common mode noise (this is true for any hum canceling pickup regardless of manufacturer). The AeroMustang pickup has an output very similar to a PB (the compressed feel). The AeroMustang pickup uses a 1/4" diameter magnet, and this changes the articulation of the pickup (as opposed to a 3/16" diameter magnet).

All Aero pickups have a broad frequency response (good bass, flat mid, clear high), and a high level output (you will not need a pre-amp to boost gain). The frequency response of most Aero pickups is broader than that of the instrument. You can use any pre-amp with Aero pickups, but note that the frequency response of the pickups is better than any pre-amp you can install.Aero pickups will accurately convert the mechanical vibrations of your instrument into electrical signals. This means, if the frequencies are in the instrument they will also show up in the electrical signal.

So they are a lot like P Bass. Though the pickup is smaller than a P Bass, I believe using the larger magnet, as you would with Music Man pickups, helps provide greater punch, but it's not muddy because it's not an overly souped up wind. It's very balanced. Looks like it's $160 from Best Bass Gear.

Nordstrands, never tried. However, I have some experience with their pickups and I really can't think of any reason why I wouldn't try them. These pickups didn't exist or I wasn't aware when I was getting my Mustang upgraded, but in the current market, the Nordstrand is the one I probably would have chosen. As great as my Aero is, the Nordstrand NM4 is half the price at $80 from Best Bass Gear. That's a steal. I think my favorite pickup I've ever played is the stock neck pickup in my Ibanez 655, which is an OEM version of their P Bass pickup with angled poles, and their Mustang pickup has the same angled pole design. And given their reputation, you'd imagine their tone would be stellar.

The cool think about Duncan is that I believe that they're the only production pickup winder trying to do the Mustang Bass as close to vintage as possible, and not only that, they come with covers, which others don't include. So if you're building from scratch, they're probably the ones to go with. They're $160 at the custom shop.

So, to me, it's like this. If you want the most faithful pickup possible, either do a custom rewind or get a Duncan. If you want the best deal possible, Nordstrand. Aero is great, too, and I love my Aero, and I guess I recommend them if you really want that 1/4" magnet setup.
 
I'm pretty happy with the Nordstrand NM4. With a set of the Labella Mustang flats it sounds warm and deep with tone rolled off, bright and punchy with it rolled on. It's about as simple a set up as there is.
Oh yeah, good for you pointing the La Bella Mustang flats out. I have a stockpile of La Bella 760FL-MUS flatwounds for Mustang and they're the magic ingredient to fantastic Mustang tone.
 
I think you pretty much named them all. However, there are countless other boutique shops who will custom wind for you if you send in your stock pickup. Some of them are quite inexpensive for the work they do, like Rose Pickups.

I have experience with Aero Mustang pickups, because I have one. I think it's a beautiful sounding pickup. It really thickens up the sound without losing any of its punch. It gets the bass to more of that P-Bass range, which means that solo, it's not going to be the greatest thing ever, but play with a band, and you'll be loving just how it always works. Here are the words from the maker himself:

The pickup is an exact drop-in replacement for the Fender Mustang Reissue bass, but has a better frequency response than the original. The string spacing is standard Mustang 4 Reissue, 18.00mm C-C. New covers are not available from Aero, but the new AeroMustang Reissue pickup will fit perfectly into the original Reissue covers.

The Mustang pickup is a hum canceling pickup, and therefore there is some loss of high harmonics along with the common mode noise (this is true for any hum canceling pickup regardless of manufacturer). The AeroMustang pickup has an output very similar to a PB (the compressed feel). The AeroMustang pickup uses a 1/4" diameter magnet, and this changes the articulation of the pickup (as opposed to a 3/16" diameter magnet).

All Aero pickups have a broad frequency response (good bass, flat mid, clear high), and a high level output (you will not need a pre-amp to boost gain). The frequency response of most Aero pickups is broader than that of the instrument. You can use any pre-amp with Aero pickups, but note that the frequency response of the pickups is better than any pre-amp you can install.Aero pickups will accurately convert the mechanical vibrations of your instrument into electrical signals. This means, if the frequencies are in the instrument they will also show up in the electrical signal.

So they are a lot like P Bass. Though the pickup is smaller than a P Bass, I believe using the larger magnet, as you would with Music Man pickups, helps provide greater punch, but it's not muddy because it's not an overly souped up wind. It's very balanced. Looks like it's $160 from Best Bass Gear.

Nordstrands, never tried. However, I have some experience with their pickups and I really can't think of any reason why I wouldn't try them. These pickups didn't exist or I wasn't aware when I was getting my Mustang upgraded, but in the current market, the Nordstrand is the one I probably would have chosen. As great as my Aero is, the Nordstrand NM4 is half the price at $80 from Best Bass Gear. That's a steal. I think my favorite pickup I've ever played is the stock neck pickup in my Ibanez 655, which is an OEM version of their P Bass pickup with angled poles, and their Mustang pickup has the same angled pole design. And given their reputation, you'd imagine their tone would be stellar.

The cool think about Duncan is that I believe that they're the only production pickup winder trying to do the Mustang Bass as close to vintage as possible, and not only that, they come with covers, which others don't include. So if you're building from scratch, they're probably the ones to go with. They're $160 at the custom shop.

So, to me, it's like this. If you want the most faithful pickup possible, either do a custom rewind or get a Duncan. If you want the best deal possible, Nordstrand. Aero is great, too, and I love my Aero, and I guess I recommend them if you really want that 1/4" magnet setup.

Yes, I've had several basses (and still have one) with Nordstrand pickups. Every time, I've loved their sound. I had an Ibanez 655 (new version with stock Nordstrands), and you are right, amazing tone. And my trusty Stingray has Nordstrand pickup and preamp. It is amazing. But I've switched mostly to short scale these days. And like I mentioned, I don't have a problem at all with the stock Mustang pickups (especially in my two Japanese Mustangs), so for all but one, I'm not going to switch the pickups. However, one Mustang is going to be my guinea pig. I just ordered the Nordstrand Mustang pickup. I'm sure it's going to sound as killer as all the others have. Down the road, I will probably try the Aero and SD as well. Hey, if I really like them, that will give me an excuse to buy a couple more Mustangs, since I don't want to switch the stock pickups on my others. :thumbsup:
 
So, I got the Nordstrand pickup earlier today and installed it in place of the stock humbucker in my Mikey Way Mustang Bass. That stock humbucker is decent sounding, and quite "p-bassish," although, to my ears, it lacks a bit of upper register definition and it's not as hot as you would expect. But overall, nothing wrong with it at all. Sounds fine.

With a change of pickguard, the Nordstrands dropped right into the humbucker rout (I was a bit worried about that). In comparing the Nordstrands with the humbucker and directly comparing them to my Japanese Mustang (which was made for the Japanese market--I bought it from a guy and he shipped it to the US), which I assume has Seymour Duncan pickups (or so I'm told and read), this is what I'm hearing:

Compared to the stock soapbar humbucker, the Nordstrand is higher output and more dynamic. It is even more "p-bassish" than the humbucker is. The Nordstrand does do a REALLY good job of faking a P-bass sound. It definitely also has more high end definition than the stock humbucker. The Nordstrand seems more "alive" than the humbucker. And more even in response across the strings.

Compared to the SD pickups in my other Mustang, the Nordstrands don't have quite as much higher-end sizzle. It's not as "stringy." To me, the stock SD pickups sound somewhat like a cross between a p-bass and a j-bass. It is quite p-bass voiced, but has a little more upper mid and high end bite, like a j-bass. The Nordstrand is definitely more on the p-bass side of things compared to the stock Mustang SD. More and smoother low end for sure. The output level really is about the same, overall though, if we ignore the differences in frequency voicings.

So... do I like the Nordstrand better than the soapbar humbucker? Absolutely. Do I like the Nordstrand better than the stock SD split coil in the Japanese Mustang? Not really. But at the same time, I don't like it any less either. It's just two slightly different sounds and to my ears, they both sound great. So I like them both. It will be nice to get a slightly different sound out of the two instruments. The Nordstrand with a bit more punchy, smooth, bottom-heavy tone, and the SD with a bit more bite and a twangier in-your-face voicing (almost like a "Geddy plays a p-bass" flavor).


I must admit, however, that I'm curious as to what that Seymour Duncan Custom Shop Mustang pickup sounds like. The "regular" Seymour Duncan, in my opinion, is really hard to beat for what it does well. I'm pretty much in love with that sound, whether the bass is strung with rounds or flats. Killer sound, in my opinion both ways. I can get anything I want out of it with just the tone knob, different strings, and variation on playing style.
 
The "regular" Fender Japan Mustang Bass pickup is actually Duncan Designed, I'm fairly sure. Fender website calls it a "Special Design" because I guess they were selling the bass as a $749 premium bass, but back in the old Fender Japan website, the pickup was listed as "Duncan Designed MB-1." Especially if you got a Japanese domestic model, it's definitely going to be a Duncan Designed MB-1, although I'm sure the export models had the same pickup. The Custom Shop would be a U.S. Seymour Duncan built pickup, vs. an OEM wind done in China or wherever the Duncan Designed was made. I'd imagine that it'd have the same basic sound as the Duncan Designed but be overseen by an expert in the Seymour Duncan Custom Shop, vs. put together by machines in Asia. Not that any of this matters. Some of my favorite pickups are cheap Asian-made OEM or stock pickups. When they get the specs right, pickups sound fine. There's really not a huge amount of magic in some wire, magnets, and bobbins.

That said, I'm interested in the fact that you were able to just drop in a pickguard into your Squier. I've wondered a great deal about buying one of those Pawn Shop Mustang basses but I just know that the pickup wouldn't be to my taste. If I bought a standard Mustang Bass pickguard, I wonder if I would be able to drop in a standard Mustang Bass pickup.
 
Also, I'm glad you like the Nordstrand. I really love my Aero and I would describe my Aero in a lot of the same ways you've described the Nordstrand. That was the main thing I didn't really like with my Mustang Bass, it was very "stringy." I wanted more thump and thud and the Aero gave me that. If the Nordstrand can get in that same range for half the money, it might be good for when I get that dream competition stripe Mustang Bass one day.
 
The "regular" Fender Japan Mustang Bass pickup is actually Duncan Designed, I'm fairly sure. Fender website calls it a "Special Design" because I guess they were selling the bass as a $749 premium bass, but back in the old Fender Japan website, the pickup was listed as "Duncan Designed MB-1." Especially if you got a Japanese domestic model, it's definitely going to be a Duncan Designed MB-1, although I'm sure the export models had the same pickup. The Custom Shop would be a U.S. Seymour Duncan built pickup, vs. an OEM wind done in China or wherever the Duncan Designed was made. I'd imagine that it'd have the same basic sound as the Duncan Designed but be overseen by an expert in the Seymour Duncan Custom Shop, vs. put together by machines in Asia. Not that any of this matters. Some of my favorite pickups are cheap Asian-made OEM or stock pickups. When they get the specs right, pickups sound fine. There's really not a huge amount of magic in some wire, magnets, and bobbins.

That said, I'm interested in the fact that you were able to just drop in a pickguard into your Squier. I've wondered a great deal about buying one of those Pawn Shop Mustang basses but I just know that the pickup wouldn't be to my taste. If I bought a standard Mustang Bass pickguard, I wonder if I would be able to drop in a standard Mustang Bass pickup.

I have a Pawn Shop Mustang as well. And, yes, that pickup has been quite a headache for me. After tinkering with it (rewiring it parallel, backing the "secondary" pole pieces nearly out of the back of the pickup, experimenting with strings (I've settled with the new EB Slinky Flatwounds--seems to really help the sound), I think I finally have a sound that I can live with. But, stock... no way. Way too woolly for me--sounded like a bass drum with strings.

As for the split coils fitting in the rout, I haven't actually fit them up, but I'm almost positive they will fit right in (with the right pickguard, of course). That rout is huge for the mudbucker. Since the split coil fit right into the squire with the smaller soapbar humbucker, it should fit fine in the Pawn Shop. I had originally intended on doing that as well, but I think I have the mudbucker sorted out. I also considered having the mudbucker rewound by Novak. He told me that he has done a number of those with good results.

Anyway, when I get a chance, I'll hold the Squier Mikey Way pickguard over the Pawn Shop to see how close the routs are. If the mudbucker fills that hole, it will definitely work.
 
I recently bought a ‘69 with Nordstrands and I really like them.they got me interested in making something of my own.These sound fairly similar and are more like a P pup than the stock ‘69 set.
 

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Not that the original Mustang Bass pickups are bad or anything... but, have any of you had experience with direct replacements? There isn't much on the web as far as reviews or recordings and I've watched a few videos on youtube with the Nordstrand versions.

So,

1) Which companies make them? I know Nordstrand does, Aero does, and Seymour Duncan Custom Shop does. Any others worth noting?

2) Have any of you had experience with the Nordstrand, Aero, or Seymours? (or others). If so, how do they sound? Significantly different? A couple of them are very pricey.

I don't have a problem with the stock pickups, but you know how it is with gear-head types. Always experimenting...
I have a JMJ mustang, personally I wouldn't change a thing, it has it's own tonal character as is.
 
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Does the Fender JMJ Mustang Bass pickguard fit the Fender Vintera 60's Mustang Bass body perfectly ?

Does the Fender Vintera 60's Mustang Bass pickguard fit the Fender JMJ Mustang Bass body perfectly ?

Are all the holes in the same places ? Are they compatible ?

The pickups are different. They are larger on the JMJ but if I want to install smaller vintage pickups on my JMJ, can I use a Vintera 60's Mustang Bass pickguard, please ?

Thanks.

May the Groove be with you.
 
Does the Fender JMJ Mustang Bass pickguard fit the Fender Vintera 60's Mustang Bass body perfectly ?

Does the Fender Vintera 60's Mustang Bass pickguard fit the Fender JMJ Mustang Bass body perfectly ?

Are all the holes in the same places ? Are they compatible ?

The pickups are different. They are larger on the JMJ but if I want to install smaller vintage pickups on my JMJ, can I use a Vintera 60's Mustang Bass pickguard, please ?

Thanks.

May the Groove be with you.
If you want the Nordy pickup, you use your own pickup covers. Nordy makes both styles of bobbins, vintage and modern. If you are not sure, they will help you.
 
I would like to visually "vintagify" my JMJ with a vintage correct size pickup for a vintage look !

I need to find a specialist to make me a special hybrid split coil overwounded pickup (40mm with smaller string spacing and RWRP, wired out-of-phase) !

if a Vintera pickguard fit perfectly, I would have succeeded !

Pickguard for Fender Mexico Mustang VINTERA / JMJ BASS: many colours, NEW | eBay
 
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Hi friends !

I'm looking for small vintage-correct pickups covers for Mustang Bass... Those with the line on !

Do you know if this model is for imported basses or vintage basses, please ? Do you know the size ? Is this still available ?

- Genuine Fender Mustang Bass Split Coil Pickups Covers Set 0057829000 / UPC 717669173500.

Who makes pickups covers for vintage Mustang Bass ? Where can I find some, please ?

Thanks.

May the Groove be with you.