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Return of Sunn?

No; it's super-clean without drive
Yup, I was using it (SPL line precursors to the Beta line) as the heart of a bi-amped prog rock bass setup. It was very clean.

Having said that, if this Sunn thing doesn't come to fruition, you kids aren't missing much. Maybe the tube heads, maybe. They were good back n da day but they weren't the end all to amps.

My opinions, my thoughts.

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I still find it kind of strange that prior to the amps and cabinets coming out why didn't they do demo videos of the amps & cabinets? You'd think that would be a smart promotional idea to get get people to hear what the amps & cabinets sound like.

Yes, same here. And I also thought it very weird they were having funding buy ins without product in the market. I would have thought they would keep it open until product is out and reviews are in, unless they are less than expectations as an amp.
 
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Here comes the Sunn!

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Yup, I was using it (SPL line precursors to the Beta line) as the heart of a bi-amped prog rock bass setup. It was very clean.

Having said that, if this Sunn thing doesn't come to fruition, you kids aren't missing much. Maybe the tube heads, maybe. They were good back n da day but they weren't the end all to amps.

My opinions, my thoughts.

:)


I had a Sunn 2000S back in that day that everyone drools over nowadays and it didn't impress me very much, not much tone shaping ability.
 
From their socials it seems that some customers have received their Beta Leads. This was from one or two customer video reposts. No news on the Beta Bass. Little bit of a bummer considering the original March eta's lol
 
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The problem as I see it (and I own a 200S) is, while I dig the Sunn amp and sound. I don’t want to haul a full size tube head around anymore. And I won’t. And I don’t know many of “my” peers who will or do, either. Please for gods sake, ALSO just..Put the Preamp and an 800W DClass amp, and make a mini version of a 200S. Make the preamp tube glow visible. Perhaps, in something like the beta case height about 12-15” wide and under 10lbs. Then I’ll give it a try. I also own a 200S 215 cab that I’ll never gig again. Tho I might be persuaded to bring out my 412 Sunn cab which weighs half as much as the 200s cab. But in all likelihood, i’ll probably never gig any of them again. Need a cab anyone? Then downsize the cabs, PLEASE SMALL LIGHT TOO. sure keep the giants. But..To fit in modern vehicles, Smaller and lighter high end 115’s, 215’s 212’s & 112’s, 410’s and redesigned audio specs to compete with the likes of Mesa, Bergantino, Bareface etc. then I’m a potential customer. Until then I’m out. To me, as it is now, it’s just an homage to a simpler time. And for that, I’ve got an original I can revisit; in storage…….. which pretty much speaks for itself. lol
For that matter why buy a brand new one when you can own one Conrad had a hand in……..
 
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From their socials it seems that some customers have received their Beta Leads. This was from one or two customer video reposts. No news on the Beta Bass. Little bit of a bummer considering the original March eta's lol
Apparently Beta Basses are shipping right after the Leads.

The problem as I see it (and I own a 200S) is, while I dig the Sunn amp and sound. I don’t want to haul a full size tube head around anymore. And I won’t. And I don’t know many of “my” peers who will or do, either. Please for gods sake, ALSO just..Put the Preamp and an 800W DClass amp, and make a mini version of a 200S. Make the preamp tube glow visible. Perhaps, in something like the beta case height about 12-15” wide and under 10lbs. Then I’ll give it a try. I also own a 200S 215 cab that I’ll never gig again. Tho I might be persuaded to bring out my 412 Sunn cab which weighs half as much as the 200s cab. But in all likelihood, i’ll probably never gig any of them again. Need a cab anyone? Then downsize the cabs, PLEASE SMALL LIGHT TOO. sure keep the giants. But..To fit in modern vehicles, Smaller and lighter high end 115’s, 215’s 212’s & 112’s, 410’s and redesigned audio specs to compete with the likes of Mesa, Bergantino, Bareface etc. then I’m a potential customer. Until then I’m out. To me, as it is now, it’s just an homage to a simpler time. And for that, I’ve got an original I can revisit; in storage…….. which pretty much speaks for itself. lol
For that matter why buy a brand new one when you can own one Conrad had a hand in……..
They're planning on releasing more modern stuff. Just wanted to get some classics out first I guess. For now it's just the Betas. No word on the 200S yet.
 
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Redesign the audio specs to compete with the likes of Mesa, Bergantino, Bareface etc. then I’m a potential customer. Until then I’m out.

What would be the point of this???

"Redesign Sunn amps to not sound like Sunn amps at all. Make them sound modern and sterile, then I will buy a new unproven (near vapor-ware) Sunn that sounds like a Mesa but without the Mesa track record and support."

I mean, seriously? If you want Mesa/Bergantino modern stuff, why on earth would you just not buy a Mesa and a Barefoot cab?

The point of Sunn's return is to bring back yesteryear's sound of Sunn. Not to sound like an uncolored DI with a power amp attached to it.

That's like saying, "I want GM to resurrect Pontiac and come out with a new Trans Am, but redesign the engine specs to compete with Hyundai, Mazda, Tesla, etc. then I'm a potential customer. Until then I'm out."

Just completely misses the point.
 
The problem as I see it (and I own a 200S) is, while I dig the Sunn amp and sound. I don’t want to haul a full size tube head around anymore. And I won’t. And I don’t know many of “my” peers who will or do, either. Please for gods sake, ALSO just..Put the Preamp and an 800W DClass amp, and make a mini version of a 200S. Make the preamp tube glow visible. Perhaps, in something like the beta case height about 12-15” wide and under 10lbs. Then I’ll give it a try. I also own a 200S 215 cab that I’ll never gig again. Tho I might be persuaded to bring out my 412 Sunn cab which weighs half as much as the 200s cab. But in all likelihood, i’ll probably never gig any of them again. Need a cab anyone? Then downsize the cabs, PLEASE SMALL LIGHT TOO. sure keep the giants. But..To fit in modern vehicles, Smaller and lighter high end 115’s, 215’s 212’s & 112’s, 410’s and redesigned audio specs to compete with the likes of Mesa, Bergantino, Bareface etc. then I’m a potential customer. Until then I’m out. To me, as it is now, it’s just an homage to a simpler time. And for that, I’ve got an original I can revisit; in storage…….. which pretty much speaks for itself. lol
For that matter why buy a brand new one when you can own one Conrad had a hand in……..
Yeah, remember what happen to the Acoustic 360/361 relaunch?

Acoustic USA Launches With Revamped 360/361 Bass Rig

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After a minute, nothing. Even Flea sold the Six he had. They were here on TalkBass for sale for a while.

https://www.talkbass.com/threads/flea-selling-his-acoustic-rigs.1451470/

https://www.talkbass.com/threads/ac...e-freight-shipping-available-for-600.1444505/

Too big, too much money to relive the past.

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I had a Sunn 2000S back in that day that everyone drools over nowadays and it didn't impress me very much, not much tone shaping ability.
Yet, I see posts here by curmudgeons that can’t handle dealing with more than a “tone” control, and bellyache about four bands of EQ.