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Rickenbacker Users: Honest thoughts on the 4001/4003?

I'm not at all unique in having a few "dream basses", ones that I've always wanted to have but have usually been *just* out of reach. I'm fortunate to have experience with most of them, but the Rickenbacker has always eluded me. I was able to get very close to one played by a member of a local metal band once, but that's about it.
For some time, I've had a "Ricky Bass Fund". I've dipped into it here and there for general bass-related expenses, but the intention has always been to one day get that Rickenbacker. But now that I've progressed so much as a player and have heard such polarizing reviews of these classic models, I wonder if my cash might be better spent elsewhere (perhaps a Gibson Grabber, which has been my no. 2 dream bass about as long as I've fantasized about the Rickenbacker). I would like to hear what the former and current Rickenbacker owners of TalkBass have to say about your experiences-- the good and the bad.

4003s is the best bass I have.
 
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They're very versatile. There are probably songs with them on it that you don't know of. From The Beatles to Yes.

Is that because the bass in inherently versatile, or does it have to do with the minds and musical sensibilities of the player?

I don't think McCartney would sound like Squire even if he duplicated his choice of strings, amp settings and signal chain.
 
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When a bass is so uncomfortable that it makes playing a Thunderbird feel great....

My 4003 was a short lived "bucket list" bass. I came close to trying another a couple years ago. Looks aside, there ain't much I like about them. Noisy electronics, uber uncomfortable, sticky finish that never felt fully cured, horrible bridge (makes a Gibson 3 pt seem AMAZING), and on and on. That's just my experience and outlook on them. Tons of players love 'em to death, so I'm probably in the minority. YMMV.

I'd definitely check them out in person first if at all possible.

Ha! My other bass is a Thunderbird. I must love a challenge!

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Is that because the bass in inherently versatile, or does it have to do with the minds and musical sensibilities of the player?

I don't think McCartney would sound like Squire even if he duplicated his choice of strings, amp settings and signal chain.


Same thing to me. I think McCartney sounded the way he wanted to sound, same with Squire. Some basses you can change the sound a lot with the way you play, others not so much.
 
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I'll pile on with what a bunch of others have said - try them out - they vary greatly.
I had a 72 4001 that I wish I'd kept forever - super fast neck, great sound, etc. Just an awesome bass, on looks, sound, and playability.
I've had 3 other 4001's and a 4003 over the years and didn't hang on to any of them very long - for me the necks were chunkier or the sound not as good. Just never bonded with them.
 
Yeah but ironically, Squire's is part of my holy grail of punk rockin bass tone. 70s/80s Oz and New York punk, not modern punk. Very proud useful rock tone, I reckon. If you know how to use it...
Given Squire and Macca are two of my favorite bassists, I've been aware of that for a long time, but still doesn't change what I said. Squire's tone, in particular, is not exactly something you'd use in a lot of stuff.
 
They do turn up in the most interesting places.

I've played only one, a 4003, and it was so heavily modded that it only looked like a Ric. I do like the looks of them, but I do not have the heart to shell out the kind of money it normally takes to land one only to discover that it's a bimbo: all looks, no substance. Go for yourself.
 
I've gone back and forth on them before. My 4001v63 was a nice instrument, but I could never get on with the neck, it was a decent width but too deep and with prominent U shape, could really feel the shoulders on it. I suppose it was what some would call a D-shape, but an extreme one, almost felt squared off. At the time I felt my Precision was in the same ball park as the bridge pickup but much more playable. The neck on the Rick also had a slight twist on the treble side, had issues with fret buzz on the G string in the first 4 frets I could never manage to shake.

Sold that on when I was tight on cash, but still loved the way they looked and sounded. I've since gone to Greco PMB-800s, which are clones of the 4001S, and for me, I think they are every bit as good as a Rick, and better than some I've played. Neck shape is great, D-shape, but far smoother than the 2x4 neck on the 4001v63. Same neck thru construction, but with a wider 4005 style skunk stripe. Ergonomics have never been an issue, but I've always used the S versions of Ricks. If you want to try out the feel of a Rick before going fully in cash-wise, grab a Greco, they can usually be found sub-$1000.
 
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Always wanted one. Got one.

Now, it sits as my "Sex, Drugs & Rock n' Roll" display, in the living room.

Still love the idea of having it, however, the neck, body, and right-hand position, were just too uncomfortable. Plus, it was just too bright sounding, for my needs, as I have since graduated to a fretless Jazz Bass Special.

Sell it? Nah. Way too cool to say you at least own one. :thumbsup:

And, the "Snow," on top, was during the Christmas Season.
 
I'm not at all unique in having a few "dream basses", ones that I've always wanted to have but have usually been *just* out of reach. I'm fortunate to have experience with most of them, but the Rickenbacker has always eluded me. I was able to get very close to one played by a member of a local metal band once, but that's about it.
For some time, I've had a "Ricky Bass Fund". I've dipped into it here and there for general bass-related expenses, but the intention has always been to one day get that Rickenbacker. But now that I've progressed so much as a player and have heard such polarizing reviews of these classic models, I wonder if my cash might be better spent elsewhere (perhaps a Gibson Grabber, which has been my no. 2 dream bass about as long as I've fantasized about the Rickenbacker). I would like to hear what the former and current Rickenbacker owners of TalkBass have to say about your experiences-- the good and the bad.
I love them. Often imitated, but nothing sounds like a Ric but a Ric.

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