Roasted/torrefied is misunderstood by industry

[Sharko]

I went to Finland and played every bass there (there's only like 11, it's not a big country). They were okay I guess, but I put a quarter pounder in an SX and it blew them all away for a fraction of the price.

 

[N4860]

What does all the Experts say? would you chose wood with weaken cell walls over wood with stronger cell walls?

You know, I just realized I've never really considered the cell walls when buying a bass. Manufacturers should really start publishing the specs of the strength of cell walls on each instrument. Us bass players deserve this information.

 

[gln1955]

What does all the Experts say? would you chose wood with weaken cell walls over wood with stronger cell walls?

A whole lot of respected companies and master builders (I'd call them experts) have been using good old American over-roasted wood. I haven't heard much about those basses falling apart.

You're pushing a non-issue.

 

[Sharko]

You know, I just realized I've never really considered the cell walls when buying a bass. Manufacturers should really start publishing the specs of the strength of cell walls on each instrument. Us bass players deserve this information.

They can't publish that info, once everyone realizes than only 1 guy in Finland knows how to make a bass correctly the whole industry will collapse. I guess it explains why every recorded bass line I've ever heard sounds so terrible though, all those recording were made without magic Finnish wood.

 

[Iridescentone]

What is the fascination with Finland and "Roasting"? Originally I thought you were going with the Vikings torrified the wood used in their boats, now it reads like marketing.

Isn't it obvious? Some Finn dude was bass shedding in a sauna, accidentally left it in there. The rest is history.

 

[Lance Bunyon]

And...when I awoke, I was alone
This bird had flown.
So
I lit a fire
Isn't it good
Torrefied Finnish wood?

 

[2thAche]

Musicians interested in roasted wood for bass or guitar should instead look for
Thermally Aged Tonewood, rather than looking for Roasted
Roasted is overdoing it
As I remember it, Thermally Aged Tonewood has strengthen its cell walls
The Roasted ones have lost strength in some degree, and is very brown

In Finland they learned how to do it, and looks like industry in U.S.A. caught the
Idea of it, but with less finesse, and ended up with Caramelizes & Roasted, Torrefied wood
Maybe it was their way of trying to come up with their own recipe of Thermally Aged
With a Look of its own?

Try to do a search on Thermally Aged Tonewood, if you find something from Finland you are on the track
Serious stuff with professional studies has bin don in Finland

Ruokangas Guitars Juha has written intersting stuff

Also Stenback have had succes with Thermally Aged woods, witch he has done in a very special way
Kind of taking it to a hole new new level

The only thing making roasted a thing is how it looks. Nobody gives a flying F what it does to cell walls.

 

[5StringBlues]

no ldea. l been beating the craq out of the same regular old fender basses for 30 and 40 years, no prob. they work for me.

What does all the Experts say? would you chose wood with weaken cell walls over wood with stronger cell walls?

 

[5StringBlues]

the dream police, they live inside of my bed.

that was so funny im calling the cops.

 

[Inkadibass]

I don't have statistic but I've used both. Thermally aged maple (like what Ruokangas uses) is exactly like it says, like very old and dried maple. Planes and sands just like maple. Colour change is very slight, just like the smoke smell. Roasted maple smells like it's taken from bonfire, is pretty brown and, most important, is way, way more brittle. When planed, I got no shavings, just sawdust. You can read what Ruokangas and other Finnish luthiers say about their thermal treatment and compare that what's sold as roasted wood.
https://ruokangas.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/07/Thermally-Aged-Tonewood-2020.pdf
Then I hope you use both thermally aged and roasted wood and tell how you feel they differ. I have no interest in arguing about the differences unless you have worked with both. No use IMO.

Interesting

 

[MultiScaleMale]

The only thing making roasted a thing is how it looks. Nobody gives a flying F what it does to cell walls.

I'm guessing you've not had a roasted neck? Most stable neck I've ever had.

 

[Bass Viking]

All I can say is I play like an ape
.

"Hey hey, we're The Monkees!"

 

[jimmydean]

Roasted Coffee , roasted nuts .............roasted neck ?

 

[TonyP-]

"Hey hey, we're The Monkees!"

%100

 

[Lance Bunyon]

Roasted Coffee , roasted nuts .............roasted neck ?

No one needs to roast my nuts. I have a wife...

 

[Jeremy Crockett]

Ah'hem...

I have no idea what is going on in this thread.

I stopped reading at page 3 to come to page 7 to declare that "I have no idea what is going on in this thread".

That is all.

 

[Inkadibass]

Ah'hem...

I have no idea what is going on in this thread.

I stopped reading at page 3 to come to page 7 to declare that "I have no idea what is going on in this thread".

That is all.

I agree, not much has bin said, maybe if you come back in half a year you could get lucky, never the less 2 days and 7 pages of not much

 

[DCGuy]

What's the Finnish word for shill?

 

[FRoss6788]

What's the Finnish word for shill?

 

[jimmydean]

None of my basses have roasted necks and they both seem stable , but sometimes the red one gets out of hand and I have to sit it in the corner for a time out .