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So a weird thing happened after my jam session tonight. I was cleaning my RBV and went to put it back in the case, and the intonation screw for the G string (the one that is threaded through the back of the bridge into the saddle) just came out on its own. Had it not hit the hardwood floor i wouldn't have heard it. I was able to get it back in place, but hardly any of the actual screw went into the saddle.

Have any of you had to get a longer intonation screw for your G string saddle? Should I? I tune 1/2 step down, i'm not sure if that has something to do with it.

If you tune down you probably have to shorten each string so it probably does push the length of the bolt (it's a machine bolt, not a wood screw, if I'm not mistaken) to its limit. And I've had lots of bolts on amps and basses back out on their own over a period of years because basses put out a ton of frequencies these things sympathetically vibrate with.

When I realize I need a longer screw for a bridge, I take an example screw to the hardware store as a reference for thread and length and get about .25'' longer.
 
Ok, i took it to the shop this morning and they suggested using a dab of loc-tite. The guy told me there was more than enough thread under the saddle for that application. His reasoning was that a longer screw would most likely vibrate and loosen as well. Im trying it out tonight at rehearsal tonight. We'll see what happens.
 
Loc-tite did the job! Here's a happy Mr. bassman with a photo taken by Miss Lady bassman at rehearsal tonight.

Best Fender ever.
 

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I've been lusting after vintage P bass tones lately. I've never owned a P but grew up with listening to it in pretty well everything I heard recorded. My understanding is that the neck pup solo gives a pretty good P representation. Do you P owners find that to be the case? Also, to further enhance that, I'm considering putting on flats. I DO own a J, love the growl on my RBV, and wouldn't want to lose that. Would flats significantly alter that beloved growl? Do you think that maybe I should just go out and buy a P? Thanks for your help RB fans!
 
I personally think a P sounds quite different from the neck pickup on a J bass, and the RBV neck pickup as not any more p-like than a J. Its like a fattened up J. Ps have a balanced midrangey punch no other bass has.
 
Thanks Pickles. I've read through the posts on this thread in the past and I remember the comments on the P sound re. the RB being "close." Nice description on "midrangy punch: definitely wouldn't want to miss out on that. The store that has the American Std P I was looking at allows 30 day returns, so if it is too close to the RB's neck pup soloed I can return it. Thanks again for your input.
 
My only other bass is a P, for this very reason.

Plus, I didn't want to put flats on my RBV, I've been keeping DR Fatbeams on it for a little while now and it sounds so great (which is crazy cause I usually prefer nickel).
So, I bought a P and put flats on her! Now I've got every sound I need!

Don't get me wrong, solo'd RBV neck pup (especially in series!) is phenomenal! There's just something about a P with flats. No bassist should leave home without one!
 
Pulled the trigger and compared the RB neck pup soloed with the P with the rounds it came with straight away. Same sonic territory, but as you guys've mentioned, not the same punch and depth of bottom. The RB has a nice sound unique to itself, though. When I put flats on the P, I quickly reached an elevated semi conscious state, playing and loving the silky smooth, rich tones coming out of my B15. I like the J growl, the J and vintage J (tone knob out) I get with my RB and didn't really want to change to flats on it either. Never owned a P, or anything with a P configuration, looking forward to hearing how it sounds on the SVT in church tomorrow.
 
Also, to further enhance that, I'm considering putting on flats.

I had D'Addario Chromes on my RBV for a while, and never bonded with them. The sound was fine, but there seemed to be something missing. I went back to the old faithful XLs, and the sound I wanted was back. This was a few years ago, and I don't remember exactly *what* was missing, sorry.

Do you think that maybe I should just go out and buy a P?

You should *always* go out and buy another bass. (Looking later in the thread, I see that you did. Good for you! :-)

Thanks for your help RB fans!

Always glad to help a fellow musician spend money! :bassist:
 
I'm setting up all my basses, starting with the Fenders. It's really dry here in Calgary, and I think for that reason I've had to tighten the truss rod to the max on all of them. The only one that needs more tightening is my RB and I don't want to risk snapping it so I need to find a way to allow more tightening. Any of you found the same problem? I remember reading a post here about someone putting in a washer to allow for more tightening. Anyone try this, and if so, how'd you do it? Thanks RBTBers!
 
I'm setting up all my basses, starting with the Fenders. It's really dry here in Calgary, and I think for that reason I've had to tighten the truss rod to the max on all of them. The only one that needs more tightening is my RB and I don't want to risk snapping it so I need to find a way to allow more tightening. Any of you found the same problem? I remember reading a post here about someone putting in a washer to allow for more tightening. Anyone try this, and if so, how'd you do it? Thanks RBTBers!

You recently got an RB right? Was there any indication of the condition of the truss rod when you got it? I'm a newer RBV owner myself, and i'm gonna watch this and see what you get for answers. Can any other RB owners say this is a "problem" with the best bass Fender has ever made? :D :p

I absolutely love mine. I did my first recording session with it last week. The RBV was sent into the black Avalon DI (not sure which model i was using), and also to my GB Streamliner 900/ Schroeder 212PL & 15PL rig which was mic'ed. It was freakin glorious thunder and clarity.
 
I'm setting up all my basses, starting with the Fenders. It's really dry here in Calgary, and I think for that reason I've had to tighten the truss rod to the max on all of them. The only one that needs more tightening is my RB and I don't want to risk snapping it so I need to find a way to allow more tightening. Any of you found the same problem? I remember reading a post here about someone putting in a washer to allow for more tightening. Anyone try this, and if so, how'd you do it? Thanks RBTBers!

I had an RBV for a short period of time and I brought it to a reputable local repair shop and they added a washer to the truss rod. It was a great bass and one of the best Jazz basses that I know of, but sold it essentially because of the weight and the neck was a bit chunkier (both back to front and width) than I like.
 
I've been googling about adding a washer and have found some good info on the subject. I also posted a thread in our set up section and should get some good input there. In answer to your question Gustoman, the only wear on the bass was a slight nick by the truss rod opening, but no real indication of truss rod problems. The very first post on this thread was by a guy who had this problem and added a washer to solve it. I PMed him, but haven't heard back. He makes a good point about the rod probably being the length for a standard J neck, whereas these are more frets (larger scale?). From what I could find, 5 washers (size 5, not number of washers) fitted a guys Fender J rod ('72 I think), so that'd be a good place to start. Oh yeah, with you completely with what incredible basses these are, might be the big one for me if I heard that "snap" after one turn too many!
 
I actually think I might be nearing the max on my RBV truss rod too, haven't turned it that last quater-turn like I want to cause I'm just not interested in hitting that.

Not familiar with the whole washer thing, but if you do it successfully I'd love to see some pics of the process!

Gets real bad in the winter here in Upstate NY. I've about had it, and so have my basses.
 
I actually think I might be nearing the max on my RBV truss rod too, haven't turned it that last quater-turn like I want to cause I'm just not interested in hitting that.

Not familiar with the whole washer thing, but if you do it successfully I'd love to see some pics of the process!

Gets real bad in the winter here in Upstate NY. I've about had it, and so have my basses.

It's pretty simple. Remove the neck from the body. Unscrew truss rod nut. Go to hardware store (WITH the truss rod nut) and find washer(s) with the same OD and ID as the nut. ID can be a bit bigger, but not the OD... it has to fit in the truss rod adjuster hole. Go home. Slip washer over the truss rod. This is the hard part. You'll probably need to slip it over a slim screwdriver or piece of a metal coat hanger or even a toothpick and work it onto the threaded end of the truss rod. Reinstall truss rod nut and tighten until neck is flat. Reinstall neck and string it up. Adjust truss rod as necessary. This might take some time as truss rod adjustments usually do. You may even need a second washer depending on your neck.
 
So I gave a guitar tech here in Calgary a call. I wanted to see if he could do it and for what price. He said for a simple job like that he'd do it for free. I didn't waste any time, got over there right away. It is a simple matter taking off the neck and removing the nut. He didn't seem to think that I'd reached the max, in fact, he said that after doing thousands of set ups he's only snapped the rod once, and that was the actual rod, not the attachment, because the rod wasn't turning properly. He said it's very unusual for a truss rod to snap from over tightening. Gave me confidence for my other set ups, as I thought that my P was starting to get too tight, now I won't give it a second thought. He just coated the end of the nut with silicon, reinserted it, bolted the neck back on, and then actually OVERtightened it. Here's something else of interest for you RBers. A common issue with these is the E string buzzing, folks have put in another tree to remedy this, something I wouldn't want to do. After he set the truss rod, he noticed the buzzing. He poured a little baking powder in the slot of the nut, poured superglue over it (liquid, not the gel), put the qtip stick in the slot to even it out, and then filed it a little (it dried in no time). Wow! Quick easy fix, no more open E buzz! This guy's a stand up guy want to recommend him to anyone in this area. Steve, works out of the guitar center here in Calgary, his company's name is Steve's, and he also makes guitars.