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Roscoe Beck Forum?

View attachment 705263 I'm not sure if this will fly, if you guy's think nay I'll pull the post.

I've wanted a RB ever since I got to play one at a Blues Jam. As I watched the prices go up I started living on a fixed income.
I decided which parts made the RB a desirable instrument to me. Then Fender started to get rid of older parts by making new Basses.
I bought a MP Jazz satin body and the associated electronics, added a Squier (I know) '77 Jazz neck (it being a 4 string I felt the asymmetrical neck profile wasn't that important).
I love the RB switching for each pickup so I copied that but rather than a 3 way pickup selector switch I used a balance control.
(I don't really know if the pickups are leftover from the RB model but I like the sound and I know they are the Lawrence design.)
Presenting...... The Geddy/Beck View attachment 705263

I hope this small offering gets your approval, at least I could afford this Bass.
Neck off a $300.00 Squier MP '77 Jazz (I sold with a different neck for $200.00)... The new neck therefore cost $150.00
Body and electronics from The Stratosphere (on eBay) w/ luthier charges (assembly but mostly wiring and a setup) $540.00

Total cost about $700.00 ready to play.... it sure sounds good.

Crappy phone photo notwithstanding.

Now I know there is a "thing" about "real" Bass models, but I was hoping y'all would see the desperation and (hopefully creative) solution.

Very resourceful - very cool!
 
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I've looked through the Fender Roscoe Beck Bass threads and this one seems to be the most robust conversation on the subject.

I'm bringing it up because I have wanted one of these basses since they came out almost 20 years ago. :eek: I'm happy to say that the wait has finally ended. Here's my new baby. :D

I read a lot of people raving about this model, but of course the poof is in the pudding. I can't (and won't) say this is the best Fender 5 ever made as others tend to do, but I will say that the feel of this bass reminds me of the old Valley Arts basses when they were still a relatively small company in Southern California.

I'm taking this bass to a recording session later this evening. I can't wait to hear it through the monitors.


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Alright after 3 hours of going back and forth from the repair shop and hardware stores, i found the correct intonation screws here locally in San Diego. They dont have them in black like the originals so i bought a bunch in case i decide to replace them all. I got mine a little long, they needed to be cut off, but any tech worth a snot should be able to handle it. Literally took my guy 5-6 seconds maybe? Anyway, here is the correct size for anyone who may need to replace the intonation screw in the future.

M3 x 50mm with .50 pitch - round top, phillips style. Cost me $1.30 for 10 of them.

They had them in 45mm, 40mm, 35mm, and 30mm as well. 25mm IS TOO SHORT!!! (i found that out the hard way). So if you are unable to have them cut down, one of these may be the correct length.

Heh. Funny to see this post (should've checked earlier!). I've been recently re-visiting my RBV (did a fret-level, setup, yadayada) and noticed two of the intonation screws were stripped. I guess the guy who had it before me probably didn't understand the locking mechanism and stripped them (I haven't played it in almost a decade). Anyway, millions of calls and google searches later, and finding parts for this bridge is impossible; even Gotoh no longer has or makes the parts.

The screws are, as you said, M3. Length is 30mm. Most important measurement is head diameter, which is 5mm. This is critical because the hole for the E&A screws is 12mm, so anything bigger than 5mm head diameter won't fit.

I finally managed to find proper screws in China (on eBay). They'll be chrome instead of black, but I'll take it!
 
Heh. Funny to see this post (should've checked earlier!). I've been recently re-visiting my RBV (did a fret-level, setup, yadayada) and noticed two of the intonation screws were stripped. I guess the guy who had it before me probably didn't understand the locking mechanism and stripped them (I haven't played it in almost a decade). Anyway, millions of calls and google searches later, and finding parts for this bridge is impossible; even Gotoh no longer has or makes the parts.

The screws are, as you said, M3. Length is 30mm. Most important measurement is head diameter, which is 5mm. This is critical because the hole for the E&A screws is 12mm, so anything bigger than 5mm head diameter won't fit.

I finally managed to find proper screws in China (on eBay). They'll be chrome instead of black, but I'll take it!


My fear is that some day I'll have to replace the whole bridge for the same reason - lack of parts. And I'm not sure of what options we RBV owners have?
 
If you're careful, yes. I've heard of people breaking saddles, stripping set screws, losing the nuts for the intonation screws, etc.

But, if you're careful and know how it all works, it'll totally last forever.

Do you really have to be "careful"....or just not be insanely reckless? Not sure how you'd break a saddle, but I suppose Paul Simonon and Pete Townshend have figured out how. Haven't seen an intonation screw with a "nut" on it yet. I'll take your word that one exists. ;)
 
Do you really have to be "careful"....or just not be insanely reckless? Not sure how you'd break a saddle, but I suppose Paul Simonon and Pete Townshend have figured out how. Haven't seen an intonation screw with a "nut" on it yet. I'll take your word that one exists. ;)

Ah, I see. I now assume you do not own a Gotoh 206 bridge :p

To break a saddle, just tighten one of the intonation screws without unlocking the saddle. It'll snap right in the rear.

The saddles have a "housing" that contains the nut, into which the screw goes. The way it works is... tightening (or loosening) the screws moves the nut, which moves the saddle back and forth. On most bridges the intonation screw goes directly into the saddle, but on these the screw doesn't touch the saddle at all. In this image, 8 is the nut, 13 is a plastic washer. 2 is the housing for said nut. 4 is where the actual string rests, and it's adjustable (for string spacing) by loosening screw 5. Screw 9 locks the saddle in place via nut 6, which goes into a little channel on the bridge itself.

Good news is, even with a stripped intonation screw you can still set intonation by manually moving the saddle and then locking it.

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Ah, I see. I now assume you do not own a Gotoh 206 bridge :p

To break a saddle, just tighten one of the intonation screws without unlocking the saddle. It'll snap right in the rear.

The saddles have a "housing" that contains the nut, into which the screw goes. The way it works is... tightening (or loosening) the screws moves the nut, which moves the saddle back and forth. On most bridges the intonation screw goes directly into the saddle, but on these the screw doesn't touch the saddle at all. In this image, 8 is the nut, 13 is a plastic washer. 2 is the housing for said nut. 4 is where the actual string rests, and it's adjustable (for string spacing) by loosening screw 5. Screw 9 locks the saddle in place via nut 6, which goes into a little channel on the bridge itself.

Good news is, even with a stripped intonation screw you can still set intonation by manually moving the saddle and then locking it.

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And there it is, a bridge with nuts for intonation screws. I stand corrected. That is insanely complicated. Glad that Fender didn't use that style bridge on my RBIV.
 
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And there it is, a bridge with nuts for intonation screws. I stand corrected. That is insanely complicated. Glad that Fender didn't use that style bridge on my RBIV.

In practice, they really are good bridges. Not all that difficult to use, except they can be a little more finicky when you go to tighten the set screw. I've had mine for a good 17+ years without any problems.
 
What's been done to the fretless? New neck or new fingerboard? Also controls have been changed to what?
The fretless started when I found a new body and bridge together on ebay about 2003. I had my luthier take the CAR bass and make an exact copy of the neck using a piece of birdsey maple with ebony board. Fender was still selling parts so I got the pickup sand tuners from them. Pre is an Audere 4 band with passive tone and I've got the regular pickup coil switches on it. I made the pickguard. Decals are bootleg.