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Roscoe Club

#8,021
steelin4u said:
Ok guys, I've been working in the basement all day and finally got my string swing up in the bass & wine room. Once I finish the trim, I'll be ordering a custom wine rack for the right. Put my 4 Roscoes together for the first family picture ever. Then I threw more on the wall because they just need to be together. :laugh: Been waiting for this room to come together for years, looks like 2018 might be it, God willing!
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Fantastic looking room, congratulations! It reminds of those climate controlled acoustic guitar rooms you see at some music stores. And bass & wine is a nice combination.
 
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steelin4u said:
Ok guys, I've been working in the basement all day and finally got my string swing up in the bass & wine room. Once I finish the trim, I'll be ordering a custom wine rack for the right.
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Bass and wine room! That is something I could get behind! Looks great and I can only imagine even better with the wine rack installed. Any climate/humidity control on that space? Both things like a constant and controlled climate, but I would have thought basses like it a bit warmer and less humid.
 
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Jeff Moote said:
Bass and wine room! That is something I could get behind! Looks great and I can only imagine even better with the wine rack installed. Any climate/humidity control on that space? Both things like a constant and controlled climate, but I would have thought basses like it a bit warmer and less humid.
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Very good things to think about. I'm not likely to be storing any wines over $50 (most will be 10-25 I'm sure, with a special bottle or two), so I'm more catering to what the instruments need. It's about 63-68 degrees, and I'm going to be adding some extra humidity control for the winter months here. I have a whole house humidifier set to 45-50%, but it is much lower in the deep cold days (28%) so that the windows don't drip water. I'm currently looking at various options (hygrometer with various cheaper passive or mist humidifiers, or a stand-alone digital units). Any suggestions for either bass care or wine care?

I have gone years with instruments in cases or hanging on walls with no damage due to temp/humidity, but my Cordoba C7 bridge snapped off in November. My streak of no environmental damage has been busted, so now I need to do more to care for my instruments.

I've read that instruments do well between 45-65% humidity, and wine corks like it to be 60-70%, so I'm going to be aiming at keeping the central ventilation system closed off in that room, and humidifying the crap out of it in the winter. We will see what the summer brings for the space, but I measured it at 65 degrees and 55% humidity last summer.
 
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My basses are in the basement and the humidity is really low. I don’t have a humidifier runing. Never have. Summer is a little humid but not bad. I have yet to touch my truss rod. Bass stays the same summer or winter. Not sure if it’s a testament to Roscoe necks or that people over react to humidity and it’s effect on bass necks.
 
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SteveC said:
Not sure if it’s a testament to Roscoe necks or that people over react to humidity and it’s effect on bass necks.
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I've never had to touch the truss rod on my fretted Roscoe, even though it was shipped to me from California and after a string change.
The fretless, OTOH, gets a bit of a tweak a couple of times a year - the mwah lives in a fairly narrow range.
 
#8,029
Bassworship1 said:
Does any of my Roscoe Brethren have any audio clips showing the Demeter Preamp used with the Roscoe Bart’s? Would like to hear the difference between the Bart preamp and Demeter Preamp paired with the Bart pickups.
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The Demeter will have less mids, more airy highs, a tighter low end, be more dynamic (less compressed) and a cleaner sound in general. I used to bump the low mids and the bass a bit and I was beyond happy. Both great preamps, but very different.
 
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steelin4u said:
Very good things to think about. I'm not likely to be storing any wines over $50 (most will be 10-25 I'm sure, with a special bottle or two), so I'm more catering to what the instruments need. It's about 63-68 degrees, and I'm going to be adding some extra humidity control for the winter months here. I have a whole house humidifier set to 45-50%, but it is much lower in the deep cold days (28%) so that the windows don't drip water. I'm currently looking at various options (hygrometer with various cheaper passive or mist humidifiers, or a stand-alone digital units). Any suggestions for either bass care or wine care?

I have gone years with instruments in cases or hanging on walls with no damage due to temp/humidity, but my Cordoba C7 bridge snapped off in November. My streak of no environmental damage has been busted, so now I need to do more to care for my instruments.

I've read that instruments do well between 45-65% humidity, and wine corks like it to be 60-70%, so I'm going to be aiming at keeping the central ventilation system closed off in that room, and humidifying the crap out of it in the winter. We will see what the summer brings for the space, but I measured it at 65 degrees and 55% humidity last summer.
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I don't have any suggestions for things you haven't already considered. I think splitting the difference on humidity and keeping it in the higher range of what the instruments want year round will be fine. As others have chimed in the Roscoe necks are really stable anyway and not as picky as a hollow/acoustic instrument (though I still do get fret sprout on most new instruments the first winter here).

For the wine constant temp and humidity is more important than getting to a really high humidity - 50% would be fine. If you can keep the temperature to the lower 60s (F) you'll be doing well, and certainly any of this is better than not having a separate area and having temperature and humidity dictated by other things.
 
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steelin4u said:
Very good things to think about. I'm not likely to be storing any wines over $50 (most will be 10-25 I'm sure, with a special bottle or two), so I'm more catering to what the instruments need. It's about 63-68 degrees, and I'm going to be adding some extra humidity control for the winter months here. I have a whole house humidifier set to 45-50%, but it is much lower in the deep cold days (28%) so that the windows don't drip water. I'm currently looking at various options (hygrometer with various cheaper passive or mist humidifiers, or a stand-alone digital units). Any suggestions for either bass care or wine care?

I have gone years with instruments in cases or hanging on walls with no damage due to temp/humidity, but my Cordoba C7 bridge snapped off in November. My streak of no environmental damage has been busted, so now I need to do more to care for my instruments.

I've read that instruments do well between 45-65% humidity, and wine corks like it to be 60-70%, so I'm going to be aiming at keeping the central ventilation system closed off in that room, and humidifying the crap out of it in the winter. We will see what the summer brings for the space, but I measured it at 65 degrees and 55% humidity last summer.
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I got into making homemade wines in 2013 and in doing so obtained a lot of information. What I found is that long term temperature-controlled storage for wines purchased in our US stores is not really required because they are ready to be enjoyed when purchased, plus they aren't bold enough to withstand further storage and keep. However, homemade varieties do need to be stored to recover from the process and to give them a better flavor, thus a wine refrigerator is used to keep the temp constant and the wines still and out of the light until ready to enjoy, which is anywhere from 4 to 12 months after bottling.

For a nice looking guitar/wine room, I would get a small 10 - 12 bottle wine rack (wall or floor type) and place your bottles in it. You won't have to worry about temp and humidity for the wines as long as you care for your basses in that room. Drink the wines and replace them when needed. Don't forget to post pictures so we can drool!!!

Here is a pic of my wines in the secondary fermentation stage. They will get bottled in March and will joined the other bottled wines in storage. These are Plum, Banana & Mango (yummy!) and Rice!!

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Bassworship1 said:
Does any of my Roscoe Brethren have any audio clips showing the Demeter Preamp used with the Roscoe Bart’s? Would like to hear the difference between the Bart preamp and Demeter Preamp paired with the Bart pickups.
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@campbems, I'm doing a recording of my Roscoe before the Demeter installation and after so that I can compare the differences. Unfortunately, I killed my Pro Tools when I upgraded the OS in my Mac. All I have to record at the present is an old 4 track cassette recorder. :meh:
 
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Bassworship1 said:
Does any of my Roscoe Brethren have any audio clips showing the Demeter Preamp used with the Roscoe Bart’s? Would like to hear the difference between the Bart preamp and Demeter Preamp paired with the Bart pickups.
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Shane. I pulled up a couple of some of my older bass orchestra tunes and found one recorded with a Roscoe with a mahogany body, Demeter pre and Roscoe Barts. I mixed out a version with all of the bass parts recorded with that bass (except the into fretless part which was a STD Plus Roscoe, mahogany body Bart X5 P/U's and Bart 3-band pre). Hope this helps.

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Nightman said:
I got into making homemade wines in 2013 and in doing so obtained a lot of information. What I found is that long term temperature-controlled storage for wines purchased in our US stores is not really required because they are ready to be enjoyed when purchased, plus they aren't bold enough to withstand further storage and keep. However, homemade varieties do need to be stored to recover from the process and to give them a better flavor, thus a wine refrigerator is used to keep the temp constant and the wines still and out of the light until ready to enjoy, which is anywhere from 4 to 12 months after bottling.

For a nice looking guitar/wine room, I would get a small 10 - 12 bottle wine rack (wall or floor type) and place your bottles in it. You won't have to worry about temp and humidity for the wines as long as you care for your basses in that room. Drink the wines and replace them when needed. Don't forget to post pictures so we can drool!!!

Here is a pic of my wines in the secondary fermentation stage. They will get bottled in March and will joined the other bottled wines in storage. These are Plum, Banana & Mango (yummy!) and Rice!!
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AWESOME information. I haven't researched that far into wine storage, so this is a big help. I've had dual zone wine refrigerators, and they were great for keeping wines down to proper drinking temperature. I had a feeling that holding onto a $20 bottle of wine for a year at most before drinking it just requires it to be stored where people would be comfortable living, not recreating an Italian underground cave. :thumbsup:

FYI, just tried out gorgomyte cloth on my maple board SKB fretted bass, and it did a nice job of polishing up the frets. It was much more low-maintenance than my usual 0000 steel wool routine...about 15 minutes, I'd guess. Hard to judge how much it cleaned the fretboard because it didn' look all that dirty.
 

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