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Roscoe Club

The Roscoe Classic PJ came yesterday and looked like the box had been sitting in a flood. The bass came out a little damp, but electronics were dry. The G string tuner was bent slightly and the fin needs to be soldered back on or I will replace. More pics and such will come later. She is about 9.28 pounds. Def heavier than my other Roscoe’s and Laklands.

Dude. That's a complete downer. It makes me even more nervous about shipping.
 
shipping problems can happen some can be avoided for sure, best thing to do is pack the heck out of them so they can take a nice drop . I double box whenever possible , pad every inch of everything inside & out around the instrument & case and get it ready to take a serious hit .I almost always detune the instrument , especially a tilt back headstock Gibby style . Tape & glue all edges of the seams outer box just incase they drop it in water . On that note I got my classic last week direct from N.C. no case or bag but it was padded to the hilt and bubble wrapped as if it were a gig bag of bubble wrap :) no issues . Personally I worry about sub temps during travel , that can cause acoustic tops to crack , and paint cracks to expand and get much worse and other problems . Nothing can really be done about that unless you hand deliver it .
 
Nothing can really be done about that unless you hand deliver it .

Dealers deal with shipping all the time. And overseas... well... if you've spent any time near a conex box you know that shipping containers are either A: hotter than Hades, or B: colder than my wife's feet in February (seriously guys, those things are like 2 Kelvin).

I wonder how they deal with all of these mishaps?
 
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shipping problems can happen some can be avoided for sure, best thing to do is pack the heck out of them so they can take a nice drop . I double box whenever possible , pad every inch of everything inside & out around the instrument & case and get it ready to take a serious hit .I almost always detune the instrument , especially a tilt back headstock Gibby style . Tape & glue all edges of the seams outer box just incase they drop it in water . On that note I got my classic last week direct from N.C. no case or bag but it was padded to the hilt and bubble wrapped as if it were a gig bag of bubble wrap :) no issues . Personally I worry about sub temps during travel , that can cause acoustic tops to crack , and paint cracks to expand and get much worse and other problems . Nothing can really be done about that unless you hand deliver it .

I agree with everything except detuning the instrument. If you really feel that's necessary, you need to totally loosen the truss rod. If not, you risk getting a twisted neck.
 
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I have shipped some high end git fiddles without doing that and no issues but it couldn't hurt I don't think . I have seen several Gibby snap right there at the headstock tilt because they fell over and the neck rest in the case and tuned to tension snapped them clean off within the case but no real damage to the shipping box or anything , it was just the force , bad luck and a delicate spot of the instrument . I personally don't think that is required for a couple day trip but I can see it as a extra step in safe transport so sure why not .
 
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I was involved in a like new condition trade. I received the bass before my trade reached the other person. The shipping box was a cheap flimsy thin box that showed distress from the journey. I opened the box to find the case was not even latched and it was not even the correct case for this bass. The inside of the case had no additional packing to keep the bass from bouncing/sliding around inside the case. I exam the bass and find the headstock had a nice chip and split in it (picture), where it had slammed into the inside of the case bending the case trim outwardly. There were other scuffs on the finish from apparently being free to move around inside the case, and the case had some damage to the interior as well.
I took pictures and immediately contacted the other party. He wanted to know if the bass sounded okay and if I waned him to add $$ to the trade deal. I told him I have not idea what it sound like, and that I'm packing this bass up, correctly, taping the case closed and sending it back to you! And please don't even open the package I sent you. Just return it to a courier and ship it back.
I got my bass back and he got his back. He claims the bass was shipped to me after he received it from another person he was trying to trade with, and it was that person's fault for the terrible packing and damage.
I've been very skeptical to doing any more trades that wasn't done in person.

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It did turn out right and I was reimbursed shipping costs. I got my bass back and he ended up getting his bass fixed locally. The interesting side to this is that the other person he was trying to trade with is a long time TB'er with a high number of feedback ratings! Sometimes you can go by the numbers and other time you have to take risks.
 
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There were only two involved in the transaction, me and the owner of the bass. What he failed to do was open and inspect what he got back from the high rated TB’er in a previous trade transaction before entering into a trade trans with me. He told me who that TB’er was, but I didn’t need to know that and I didn’t really care.
But anyway....
 
The Roscoe Classic PJ came yesterday and looked like the box had been sitting in a flood. The bass came out a little damp, but electronics were dry. The G string tuner was bent slightly and the fin needs to be soldered back on or I will replace. More pics and such will come later. She is about 9.28 pounds. Def heavier than my other Roscoe’s and Laklands.

Did you find a tuner? Can you post a pic of the tuners that are on your bass? I'm thinking of putting Hipshots on mine and just curious if mine has the same tuners, I have a pretty early Classic.
 
There were only two involved in the transaction, me and the owner of the bass. What he failed to do was open and inspect what he got back from the high rated TB’er in a previous trade transaction before entering into a trade trans with me. He told me who that TB’er was, but I didn’t need to know that and I didn’t really care.
But anyway....
ah , yeah that was his bad , I bet he won't do that again . Anywhoo lets Roscoe :)
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I don't think I ever posted any pictures of Classic. If I did, I couldn't find the post and I apologize...here they are again :)

I think this has become my favorite 4 string. Ever. And I've got some NICE ones. This is more of a 'not so much better...but different' type situation, as this bass is the polar opposite of what I would normally pursue. Pretty much everything about it is not what I would spec out if I were building a custom. But it's perfect, and I love it!


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Virtue Industries

Anybody heard of this online store?

Me and another musician at our church have been involved in enhancing our musical experience during service. One of the improvements is to get a better more stable signal via our wireless hearback system, which is not the top of the line and we are funding from our pockets. The 4 transmitters are currently in the audio booth in the balcony, which is about 75 to 90 feet away from the receivers that we wear.
Our church is a circular structure with a one level balcony. The audio booth is located in the balcony and up 1 level, but in front of and directly opposite of the muscian's pit in the circle.
Our current plan is to:
1) attach an 50ft 8-channel snake (currently owned by the other person) to the house board (Yamaha) in the audio booth, and run it around the balcony toward the musician's pit end of the structure.
2) attach 4 microphone cables to the snake box and continue running those around the circle toward the 4 headback transmitters placed up in the balcony, which would bring the transmitters closer to us than they are.

Initially we were going to buy (4) 50ft XLR microphone cables from one of the more popular online music stuff store, which would be about $50 - $100 per 100 ft cable, depending on brand and, I guess, quality, and run those from the box in the balcony to the transmitters. A cost of $200 - $400 with the transmitters so what closer.

I found bulk cables at Showmecables.com and thought we could beat the initial costs by buying 400 ft of bulk microphone cable and the XLR connectors and custom build the cables at the length needed to get the transmitters into the pit, which would cost about $300.

So, we decided to do the custom cables and run to the pit.

Then I find Virtue Industries! A 100ft XLR Pro Microphone cables for $25.00 per cable!!! That's $100 + $15 shipping for 4 complete cables needed to finish this phase of our enhancements!
 
Yeah same as mine. If you can't find one, keep me in mind. I'd need to sell the whole set though, and I'm not even sure if I can/will do it. I don't know if Hipshots are a direct replacement.

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I believe that HipShot makes a direct replacement (reverse and Std). I bought and installed some on a MIM Fender and they matched the foot print perfectly. I believe that most Fender style tuners maintain the OEM STD.
Great tuners too!
 
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I think you are right but I don't think it will be a lighter weight , I may be wrong . If not I'd just source out one tuner . I think this style is the typical MIM footprint for Fenders . I might slap Gotoh resolites if they fit but I don't think they have this foot print either . Good thing the Grovers are excellent , so I'd be inclined to just leave them on