I'm a HUGE Aguilar fan. The TH is more vintage sounding and wonderful, but I'd suggest the AG700. It'll give you everything that you want to hear from your bass, but will be warm (not sterile) and have a huge sound.
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Go Genzler. You will not be disappointed.
Guys, I found my perfect string, I don't even want to try other strings anymore, that's how good it is for me, but Murphy's law.. the 'perfect string' apparently can't be used on the type of bridges Roscoe basses use!?%
Is my only fix to change out the bridge on the Roscoe? I'm about to go back out on a smaller tour and was re-tuning up my bass. I also have a nice buzz problem going on, but I think one of the frets just needs to be Plek'd..Or it's again, something to do with how low the strings sit since they are tapered..
Anyway, The string problem is something to do with the way the string settles into the bridge and causes some odd intonation issues..
has something to do with the tapered core strings.. And guess what my favorite all time strings are ??!! La Bella Super steps which are tapered!
aaaahh..
The reason they are my all-time favorite string is because the flexibility of them has been the best of all the strings I've tried so far.. (I've tried a lot of strings, not all, but most.. including (Fodera, Sadowsky, Ken Smith, Elixir, and other specialty strings I can't remember names of right now..) You can play these strings like butter, and stretch them like no other, almost bend the low-B all the way to the G-string! haha, but don't try that seriously..
I guess My only option is to buy a new bridge and install it...
Is my only fix to change out the bridge on the Roscoe? I'm about to go back out on a smaller tour and was re-tuning up my bass. I also have a nice buzz problem going on, but I think one of the frets just needs to be Plek'd..Or it's again, something to do with how low the strings sit since they are tapered..
Anyway, The string problem is something to do with the way the string settles into the bridge and causes some odd intonation issues..
has something to do with the tapered core strings.. And guess what my favorite all time strings are ??!! La Bella Super steps which are tapered!
aaaahh..
The reason they are my all-time favorite string is because the flexibility of them has been the best of all the strings I've tried so far.. (I've tried a lot of strings, not all, but most.. including (Fodera, Sadowsky, Ken Smith, Elixir, and other specialty strings I can't remember names of right now..) You can play these strings like butter, and stretch them like no other, almost bend the low-B all the way to the G-string! haha, but don't try that seriously..
I guess My only option is to buy a new bridge and install it...
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I love super steps too.
Try lowering the pickups first. Because of the taper core your string winding if now closer to the pickups. Maybe the pickup magnet pull is enough to be causing the warble or chorus effect. You may also try raising the bridge saddles which would probably help the fret buzz situation too.
Try lowering the pickups first. Because of the taper core your string winding if now closer to the pickups. Maybe the pickup magnet pull is enough to be causing the warble or chorus effect. You may also try raising the bridge saddles which would probably help the fret buzz situation too.
This. Lower your pickups. I had the same issue years ago when I tried the Super Steps.
A lot depends on what kind of sound you’re going for. I’ve got the Genzler 800 and 3 on the 12-3 bass array cabs, which is an excellent set up and will definitely get the growl. It’s a very clear and accurate set up, doesn’t have that “sparkle/sizzle” that a tweetered cab setup does, but isn’t shy in the highs either. The Genzler amps do have a contour circuit which is similar to the SWR aural enhancer, but not quite as scooped (unless you really crank it). They do have the Magellan series 12” cabs that are more traditional (woofer & tweeter) but I’d guess sound excellent as well.
As has been mentioned, Aguilar stuff is great too, it’s a “modern vintage” tone, not muddy, but not as “hi-fi” as SWR. They mostly have tweeters in their cabs (except the ones that don’t
), the SL cabs are nice (of a bit scooped sounding), their DB series are the ones to get if you want mids/growl, but they’re not neo cabs and are heavy.Bergantino stuff is also pretty sweet- i had the B-amp and HDN212 cab (neo 2x12) and that was an excellent set-up. Very portable and sounded great- the HDN cans are “aggressive”, but not harsh, lots of low end and good sounding mids and highs, but once again, not the swr sizzle/slice. The vertical 212 cab is a really good form factor if you want a one cab set up, and the B amp is surprisingly easy to use- you CAN tweak just about anything, or you can just set it and forget it. I’ll have some Berg stuff again one day. They just came out with the 1200 watt Fotre’ HP amp, which is supposed to be just awesome.
There is a SWR headline in the classifieds right now, fyi, if you like the SWR sound (i was a BIG swr fan). I had one of these, it was a neat amp, and 400 watts is a good amount of power, and the switchable frequencies for the aural enhancer were cool.
There are a LOT of good amp options these days, and you can go as far down the rabbit hole as you want (and can afford). Good luck
Can't comment on all of your class D heads mentioned, but out of (Class D) Aguilar Tone Hammer, Markbass, Carvin, GK, and Genz Benz (Shuttles), the Genz Benz won handily for my ears and usage (Country, Rock, Funk/R&B, Church, practice). I've got the 3.0, 6.0, 9.0 shuttle heads, and the 110, 210, 112 cabs. I pair the 9.0 with a fEARful 15/6/1 (and 112 if needed) for the larger shows with no subs.
I'd like to try the Genzler at some point, but it ain't broke so I ain't fixin it at this point. If I had a Chicago friend with one, I might be convinced... @Fred312b , weren't we going to get together at some point?
Guys, I found my perfect string, I don't even want to try other strings anymore, that's how good it is for me, but Murphy's law.. the 'perfect string' apparently can't be used on the type of bridges Roscoe basses use!?%
Is my only fix to change out the bridge on the Roscoe? I'm about to go back out on a smaller tour and was re-tuning up my bass. I also have a nice buzz problem going on, but I think one of the frets just needs to be Plek'd..Or it's again, something to do with how low the strings sit since they are tapered..
Anyway, The string problem is something to do with the way the string settles into the bridge and causes some odd intonation issues..
has something to do with the tapered core strings.. And guess what my favorite all time strings are ??!! La Bella Super steps which are tapered!
aaaahh..
The reason they are my all-time favorite string is because the flexibility of them has been the best of all the strings I've tried so far.. (I've tried a lot of strings, not all, but most.. including Fodera, Ken Smith, and other specialty strings I can't remember names of right now..) You can play these strings like butter, and stretch them like no other, almost bend the low-B all the way to the G-string! haha, but don't try that seriously..
I guess My only option is to buy a new bridge and install it...
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Back in the "Gard" days, after a great deal of calls/emails concerning issues with Roscoe's with taper wounds installed, Roscoe actually issued a disclaimer on TB (and I believe on their web-site too) stating that they do not recommend the use of taper wound strings on Roscoe basses.
I'm sure lowering the pickups helps but even in doing that folks were still experiencing some chorusing/out of pitch issues.
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Found one of Gard's posts concerning the use of taper wounds on Roscoe's .....
Well...we may be clueless about a thing or two......but we strongly recommend against using them, because we have noted significant issues with proper intonation on the upper registers of the B & E strings, as well as for some reason we get really odd overtones from them. If you insist on using them, and are not bothered by those things, then you sure can use them - we just don't like the oddities they seem to introduce on our basses.
FWIW, it's real, I was a tapered string guy for years myself, but there is a noticeable issue with them on any bass of ours I've tried them on. Odd I know, but it's real.
Awesome! I've experimented with various Warmoth neck and body combinations and my favourite is wenge/ebony neck with a black limba body. Any chance we can hear yours?
A lot depends on what kind of sound you’re going for.
There are a LOT of good amp options these days, and you can go as far down the rabbit hole as you want (and can afford). Good luck
I'm not convinced that I still want the hi-fi SWR/Eden sound. Or at least, if I want that sound I'll keep lugging the big stuff around.
I kind of like the idea of "modern vintage."
I GAS'd for a long time over Bergantino cabs, but never was in a place where buying one (the HT322 in particular) made sense. And now that I want lighter stuff that speaker cabinet simply ain't in the cards.
I hadn't thought about Genzler. Interesting.
They even put in their letter about the bass that they do not recommend taperwound or contact core strings on their basses due to intonation and setup issues. Simply put- they aren't designed to use them.
Yep that’s a great combo! Mine has a Ziricote fretboard which is very similar to Ebony. I don’t have any isolated clips but I recorded an album with this bass. If you want to hear it in a metal band context, check here:
Ok, thank you all, I will try lowering the pickups, I can't really raise the strings much because then it will ruin my super fast Richard Bona/Victor Wooten/Jaco Pastorius/name other fast playing bassist playing!
I have to show a video of the bass and strings and you will all see what I mean how it's butter, No joke, I've had many random bass players play it and they all say the same thing, "man it's so easy to play and just plays itself, requires no effort etc.. " haha.
Anyway, I can't go back to any other strings, I need to get endorsed by La Bella just for the SuperSteps.. It's the only string I get now.. Speaking of is bassstringsonline still there?
The fact that it is mainly on the high end of the Low-B and E-strings is great, because who does play up there? haha. I surely don't do anything really up there on those strings and unless I was doing some chords that would require that area, I don't see a problem with that being a no play zone on those strings.. for now.
And if this unfortunately does become such a hassle, I know, and I'm very ashamed to say, but I've secretly always wanted an F-bass (not Fodera..) all these years and that will be my solution to continue using Super Steps if need be! haha. I'm sorry Roscoe! I still love you.
(watch the F-bass have the same bridge..)
Bassstringsonline.com became www.fretnation.comOk, thank you all, I will try lowering the pickups, I can't really raise the strings much because then it will ruin my super fast Richard Bona/Victor Wooten/Jaco Pastorius/name other fast playing bassist playing!
I have to show a video of the bass and strings and you will all see what I mean how it's butter, No joke, I've had many random bass players play it and they all say the same thing, "man it's so easy to play and just plays itself, requires no effort etc.. " haha.
Anyway, I can't go back to any other strings, I need to get endorsed by La Bella just for the SuperSteps.. It's the only string I get now.. Speaking of is bassstringsonline still there?
The fact that it is mainly on the high end of the Low-B and E-strings is great, because who does play up there? haha. I surely don't do anything really up there on those strings and unless I was doing some chords that would require that area, I don't see a problem with that being a no play zone on those strings.. for now.
And if this unfortunately does become such a hassle, I know, and I'm very ashamed to say, but I've secretly always wanted an F-bass (not Fodera..) all these years and that will be my solution to continue using Super Steps if need be! haha. I'm sorry Roscoe! I still love you.
(watch the F-bass have the same bridge..)
That’s just a modified hipshot bridge (a-style). Depending on the F-bass, it may have that bridge as an option. I ordered a BN5, but chose the stock B-style one. I don’t know that it’s the bridge per se, as lots of other basses use that bridge (although the roscoe one has a radiused base plate) and I’ve never heard of that issue with anyone else. But I’m no scientist.
Bergantino now does the modular 322- a 210 and a 112. They even made their reference series in that configuration
Just bought this for teaching guitar class at my high school next year and leading worship a few times at church this summer. No new bass for me this summer.
What is that? It's not a Roscoe. Not a XYZ bass either...
Nope. One of those skinny string things. Kind of fun though.
Just a little clarification on those tapered/exposed core strings. The Labella strings are exposed core, where the core is fully exposed on every string in the set. Sadowsky makes a tapered string set. It’s available with the 5 string set. And only the B string is tapered. The winding tapers down about 2 to 3 inches from the ball end, but doesn't expose the core completely.
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