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Mmm... sometimes heavy multi-tracking can work.... especially for groups like Queen. What I was saying is that, when played live, the new material sounded more "real", open, dynamic, etc.... Sometimes bands get caught up in the studio with adding too much extra stuff with overdubs, which turns things into sonic mush (then compress the living crap out of it). There are times when less sounds like more, and I thought that CA live sounded better than the recording. Oh... and love The Anarchist, BTW.
 
12bass said:
Yeah... Manhattan Project and The Body Electric were great, as was Red Sector A. Was a good show for people who like the 1982-85 era. Odd that I didn't notice that they missed Wish Them Well.

SETLIST SPOILER WARNING

We got Wish Them Well, but I would've preferred Seven Cities, one of my favourite tracks on the record. I really love the 70's, and Power Windows was the beginning of the end for me, but the show gave the album a new life in my eyes. I really loved the 2112 encore, but it was disappointing that it was the only oldie they brought out.
 
So I've been listening to this album and I'm trying to figure something out. BU2B2 is a crazy depressing song, and I'm not sure how it fits into the story. It comes right after Headlong Flight, which is a really uplifting song, and right before Wish Them Well, which is kind of a "don't let 'em get you down" theme. Since the whole album is almost a narrative of a wandering character, what is happening there?
 
Spectrum said:
So I've been listening to this album and I'm trying to figure something out. BU2B2 is a crazy depressing song, and I'm not sure how it fits into the story. It comes right after Headlong Flight, which is a really uplifting song, and right before Wish Them Well, which is kind of a "don't let 'em get you down" theme. Since the whole album is almost a narrative of a wandering character, what is happening there?

I agree. I skip it every time. Neil's most hopeless writing ever.
 
Spectrum said:
So I've been listening to this album and I'm trying to figure something out. BU2B2 is a crazy depressing song, and I'm not sure how it fits into the story. It comes right after Headlong Flight, which is a really uplifting song, and right before Wish Them Well, which is kind of a "don't let 'em get you down" theme. Since the whole album is almost a narrative of a wandering character, what is happening there?

Ok, I'll break the album down.

Caravan - His childhood, watching the steam liners go by and dreaming of adventure.
BU2B - The overbearing religion in his family, that he was born into and raised to follow.
Clockwork Angels - He finally leaves, and goes to the main city, where he sees the wondrous angels, and the breathtaking buildings.
The Anarchist - A side story, introducing the antagonist.
Carnies - The protagonist has gotten a job at a carnival, where he spots the Anarchist with a clockwork detonator (bomb like device), the Anarchist throws the device at him, just as the crowd turns, and he flees.
Halo Effect - He had fallen in love with a performer in the carnival, and he is reflecting on what a fool he was to fall for her.
Seven Cities of Gold - He decides to follow his dream of finding the seven cities, after taking a ship to the city of Poseidon (and working there for a while), he sets off across the desert.
The Wreckers - Almost dying in the desert, he goes back to Poseidon, and takes a homeward ship from the city, while in a treacherous storm, they see a light, and follow it. It turns out to be a bait light placed by the denizens of an island to lead ships to a jagged reef, in the wreck the denizens plundered the ship and left passengers and crew for dead. Protagonist was the only survivor.
Headlong Flight - After the shipwreck, he looks back on his life, and all of his adventures that didn't seem so great at the time, but he now realizes he wouldn't change a thing. Stemming from the Freddy Gruber quote "I wish I could do it all again".
BU2B2 - Upon reflection, he realizes how many times he's been taken advantage of, and he is no longer the glowing optimist he once was, and has lost his faith that he was once brought up to believe in.
Wish Them Well - He is not angry at the people who have taken advantage of him, he just turns his back and doesn't waste his time with them. Just wish them well.
The Garden - Now an old man, he has quit adventuring, and now has settled down, to live and "tend his garden".

All put into my own words from the captions in the album book.
 
Yeah, I've read the album jacket, it just seems a little out of place to me. I actually really love Neil's writing for the most part, but since his family troubles his optimism is in and out. Grace Under Pressure was a very dark album, maybe their darkest, but it didn't leave me worrying about Neil after I heard it through like this one does. I would've felt better if Headlong Flight had been the ending. But I gotta give 'em props for writing the Garden; I never expected a rock song about getting old to be so nice. Take that, The Who!
 
The Garden - Now an old man, he has quit adventuring, and now has settled down, to live and "tend his garden".
I think he actually dies in the middle of the song, at right about 3:30...the rest of the song hints at afterlife. My theory anyway.

"The future disappears into memory, with only a moment between. Forever dwells in that moment; hope is what remains to be seen".
 
Who knows, I'm gonna say there are 3 or less big tours remaining, albums are debatable but if they keep releasing 1 every 5 years they're lucky to get out one more...

The only reason I say that is because of Neil. Geddy and Alex are guys that you can really tell love what they do and have fun up there, but I know Neil hates touring, and has a bit less of a passion for drumming than he once did. Even at the show Wednesday, there wasn't quite as much hype from them as when I go back and watch R30...(in my eyes)

It's sad, but it's bound to happen sooner or later.
 
Definitely said:
Who knows, I'm gonna say there are 3 or less big tours remaining, albums are debatable but if they keep releasing 1 every 5 years they're lucky to get out one more...

The only reason I say that is because of Neil. Geddy and Alex are guys that you can really tell love what they do and have fun up there, but I know Neil hates touring, and has a bit less of a passion for drumming than he once did. Even at the show Wednesday, there wasn't quite as much hype from them as when I go back and watch R30...(in my eyes)

It's sad, but it's bound to happen sooner or later.

I've gotta see them a soon as possible then. I'm 17 so I've never seen them live before.
 
VitalSigns said:
I've gotta see them a soon as possible then. I'm 17 so I've never seen them live before.

I got lucky that they came through Winnipeg. My parents knew I loved them enough (and that they're so old i have limited opportunities) that they would've taken me to Toronto to see them, it just so happened that they came here. This was actually my very first concert, being 14, and I don't think it'll ever be topped.